The Two-Type Model shows that male-to-female transsexualism has two distinct pathways. Autogynephilia belongs firmly to the non-homosexual one. At its core, it’s a profound inversion of male heterosexuality: instead of attraction directed outward toward women, the erotic target turns inward onto the self-as-woman. This creates a powerful internalized female self-image that becomes the center of both arousal and identity.What makes autogynephilia neurologically addictive is its mimicry of the brain’s reward system. Every act, cross-dressing, mirror gazing, fantasizing, or progressing toward transition, triggers massive surges of dopamine and serotonin, generating EUPHORIA. This produces a classic binge-purge addiction loop: euphoric highs, rapid tolerance, escalation (hormones, surgery, social transition), followed by crashing dysphoria and purges. Over time, operant and classical conditioning pair the male body with pain and the female self-image with pleasure, manufacturing intense autoandrophobia. What presents as “gender dysphoria” is often not an innate mismatch, but the end-stage symptom of this self-reinforcing paraphilic addiction cycle.
its not paraphilic. its sane obvious and self evident. autoandrophobia is understandable and is clear when you get rid out of stockholm syndrome, when you learn to differentate between feeling of (anticipating) reward or punishment with true inner feelings of liking and disliking. being man is objectively terrible why would anyone want that? they fear even pondering about it because they fear eternal dishonor (thishorror oh my;) unless they sepukku themselves or do some other backwards tradshit stuff as a way of redemption.
>>43186373>why would anyone want that?Ask FtMs.
>>43186373Honor is one of the best malebrain concepts we've ever come up with, it helps people do the right things and redeem themselves should they do something wrong. Some forms of it are too exaggerated but it's a good concept overall and fembrains should do better to understand it
>>43186389They don't even want to be men themselvesThey're quite happy to be known as a transman
>>43186223i hate having autogynephilia so fucking much. hate being a man enough to shoot up estrogen but not enough to commit social suicide as a hon
but what if im agp and like guys? am i still a straight guy?
>>43186446On one hand I'm thankful that my AGP is generally secondary to general gynephilia so I technically could have a normal lifeOn the other hand, I'm 30, virgin, zero prospects of ever getting a good date, feels like the only woman I could ever date would be myself
>>43186483i could have written this
>>43186446>>43186483Relatable. We need a real cure.
>>43186495been begging for it for years
>>43186501How would it work? One pill a day keeps AGP away?
>>43186595Idk anything to not want to be a woman
blanchard is a fraud
>>43186740OP precisely describes what I experienced all of my life.
>>43186740nona ist frau
>>43186695But what could be better than being a woman?
>>43186953being eternally young forever beautiful woman ofc. with shapeshifting powers
>>43186953i'm too old and male
>>43186223Let's talk plastic surgery, plastic surgery includes fat sucking, tummy tucks, ect. The trend in the USA is don't pass yourself off as natural if you lie about plastic surgery. Apocalyptic event has hit Hollywood and modeling. Everyday people don't look like that and it's not normal looking. Double knock down for transgender women.
>>43186223It's over , the industry of plastic body is done Health & Safety Failures: Extreme pressure to maintain specific body types has led to severe health issues for some, such as the, case, of, model, Linda, Evangelista, who, was, "disfigured" by a cosmetic procedure,
>>43186373You're an ugly, insane dysgenic Polish asylum inmate who can barely speak English. No one listens to you.
>>43186223>the geocentric model shows that the sun orbits the earth>the sun is a planet, crossing the sky as other planets do with a variance in trajectory that stars lack>at its core, the sun is a wildfire composed of burning sinners, which is why as society has degenerated in recent years the sun has grown hotter, a profound warning for the rest of us>this creates the illusion of a global warming, when in fact the earth's temperature is naturally stable>what makes the moon particularly fascinating is its mimicry of the sun's light, serving as a sort of giant orbital mirror creating anywhere between a slight amelioration of nocturnal gloom to nearly daytime illumination when the sun is hidden>criminals and other bestially inclined types are agitated by the brightest, or full, phase of the moon, experiencing what might be termed EUPHORIA>this produces regular crime waves that are well known among police forces, but to astrologers that is of little significance>as anyone who has seen a sling in operation might tell you, the centrifugal effect (not force) should cause the planets to disappear from the sky as they are flung far into the void>for all we know, that does regularly happen, puncturing the firmament as they are replaced by some divine's will with new planets to add interest to our world's night sky>of course, it is far more likely that there is some unknown force containing the momentum of the disks and imprisoning them, much like the planets' planets follow them like so many loyal dogs>leading astrological theories suggest that io clings to jupiter through much the same mechanisms that jupiter clings to earth
>>43186953I prefer being a man. It's awesome. I'm physically superior, more logical, I'm in charge etc. It's more responsibility but I'm not afraid of responsibility.
>>43187758Responsibility without authority is slavery
>>43186223>mirror gazingI spent my whole childhood and early adulthood doing this with no idea why, I thought it's just a bit of narcissismOnly when I realized I like the feminine qualities in my face, everything clicked
>>43187811I am AGP and I hate seeing myself in mirror or photos.
>>43187769I do have authority. I'm in charge of any relationships and family. I also have authority via physical power. I can stop others from taking actions, even permanently if I want to.
>>43187769Meaningless drabble written by a eunuch slave.
>>43187853Soft power is more impressive.
>>43187868Females lack the tenacity and vigor for soft power. They are naturally agreeable. Which is why the vast majority of successful people are male.
>>43187885And what do the succesful men do with their wealth? Hand it off to women.
>>43187898Lol. The men have all the power in the relationship. They're the bread winner, they're the one who made it happen. The woman just hopes to find a successful man to ride the coat tails of and be their bitch.Peak male = kicking ass and taking names.Peak female = don't do anything of value, just try to find the best male that will tolerate you and swallow his cum so he gives you stuff and doesn't leave you.
>>43187934> The top 5 richest women in the world became rich through divorce.Muh power and kicking ass? Who is whose bitch?
>>43187951LOL. That just proves how worthless women are. And you don't have to get married.
>>43187969You are coping hard in this gynocentric society.
>>43186223I wonder what further escalation is there for AGPs who have fully transitioned? Do they finally know peace?
>>43187983>no argumentI accept your concession, bro. As man you should know better.
>>43187996What argument do you need? It's clear that women for supposedly being worthless can still extract whatever they want or need from men. Way more than you can with your strength.
>>43186953Being a man and fucking her
>>43188006>can still extract whatever they want or need from menThey can't, actually. Women are unhappier than ever.
>>43188018Are men happier than ever, not exactly, right?
>>43187990>I wonder what further escalation is there for AGPs who have fully transitioned?seeding agp and pinkpilling to spread blessing further
>>43187811Same. I used to tuck my penis behind my legs and stare at myself in the mirror all the time. I was young enough that I had to climb up on the sink so I'd be tall enough to see
>>43186223i don't think i've really experienced gender euphoria, the closest thing to that is just that i feel much more in my body and things feel a lot better mentally rather than just being crazy disassociated from it all, all the time. like i feel like much more of a person than i used to, less hollow; and i can much better imagine myself growing older than previously. its not really a good (or bad) feeling, just like more in touch which is itself nice. so idrk
>>43188085>blessingThis is absolutely not a fucking blessing
>>43188042You're the one attempting to claim women are heckin' winning hard in our gynocentric society. They aren't. They just want to be a man's bitch. But they're very susceptible to propaganda, another massive weakness, so they think they're doing the right thing and end up confused as so why they're so unhappy.Listen bud, if you're a submissive little pussy and you just want to be someone's bitch that's fine. But don't portray it as ""power"".
i feel like there's this weird way that patriarchy is being lessened and there seems to be more gender animosity than ever from men and from women.
>>43187811>Only when I realized I like the feminine qualities in my face, everything clickedwell... it kinda clicks but there are excuses like it makes you better crosdresser or prettier like most men dont care about theie looks and modern diets lead to swollen coarse faces from excess growth signaling (insulin, igf, etc) blame androgenic hair on reptikians or some other woo woo or cope...>>43188086>used to tuck my penis behindunder for ne. tuck and haha i am girl now.
>>43188143The truth is patriarchy is the natural way of things and disrupting it makes everyone unhappy.
>>43188117Women never had it better, it's just true. They have rights and freedom, safety, adult daycare jobs, they can whore out in their youth and still settle (men will marry literal porn stars). They definitely enjoy having a soft power that earns them more than hard power does for men. You can only deny it to protect your fragile alpha male ego but a woman you fall for can fuck you over as well as any other man. They all thought it won't happen to them.
>>43188106not blessing is being penisborn, agp is beacon of light that can lead to freedom. painful path for sure many will fail but whats the alternative? living moid life lost in darkness without glimmer of hope? life of confusion and selfndenial of emotional and logical freedom? most of men are mad wrecks. fr
>>43188177>Women never had it better>female happiness has plummetedSeems like your premise is incorrect from the outset. They don't want rights or jobs. They want to be a man's bitch.
>>43188207Sure. You must have a lot of bitches then?
>>43186373>autoandrophobiathis is such a distinct type on its own and its clearly apart from autogynephilia or HSTS. the primary motivation for me isnt wanting to be a woman, its not wanting to be masculine, men are so fucking ugly, we go bald, we're hairy, we smell bad, our skin looks terrible, our facial features look terrible. meanwhile womens appearances barely change so long as they stay in shape. being in a male body feels like being in some kind of monstrous form that looks good for about 10 years at most but more like 5 before you turn into an ogre. trooning for me is like 80% wanting to avoid that fate and any of the agp came much later probably as a result of repression and seeking coping mechanisms to deal with the pain of the androphobia. all men would look like pic related if they could because being male is an actual curse. everyone wants to be cute and pretty and attractive instead of a big smelly orc, you'd be a retard not to want that.
>>43188233I've fucked over 35 people but at the moment I have two bitches. One main, one side.
>>43188263Sounds great, what brings you into AGP thread on /lgbt/?
>>43188186Your worldview is self serving and reductive, a moral landscape as almost as barren as your english skills.Transition may be a viable option giving relief to some AGPs, but I'd like to know more about those experiences beyond some "spread the gospel of trooning" BS you're peddling.
>>43188254You can't separate the two. Not being a man leads to being a woman and vice versa.
>>43188269I'm pansexual, so I belong here, but it was the second reply whining about being male that got my attention. I find it pathetic.
>>43188254Lots of men keep their hair and age very well, lots of women "hit the wall" losing their youth and beauty after 30 or so. Genetics and lifestyle play a role, it's not all good or bad objectively for either sex.
>>43188284Perhaps not every male gets to be an alpha with bitches?
>>43188254dunno about that. autoandrophobia imo is one side of coin agp is other side. autoandrophobia is not possible to repress even when you get into manly stuff like lifting you feel bot antipating reward and self disgust. agp can be repressed early but if it resurfaces then its over. snowballing dysphoria you get. i had eunuch fantasies before accepting that i am "one of these people". masculinizationbsucks. androgenic hair and bones. gross. goodnitght everybody. its bed time at looney bin.
>>43188160patriarchy had some degree of paternalistic noblesse oblige towards lower status women, whereas to liberated women 80% men are invisible and have 0 value.
>>43188301i think in general its normal for people to not take care of themselves of either gender, for women they usually get pregnant and then just give up on themselves and hit menopause later. but for men its like your body just naturally wants to make you ugly and you have to fight against it basically since puberty. unless you are lucky enough to have twink genetics where your body just doesnt use testosterone or you have some growth hormone deficiency so you dont turn ugly.>>43188347i would say up until my mid 20s i was pretty much entirely autoandrophobic. not really agp at all. i wanted to be (still do really) a bishounen twink. being a tranny is the closest approximation of that. i never really thought of myself as a girl or wanted to be treated like a girl or have a girls body. so while they can be related i think they are independant things.
>>43188303Alright, that's fair. I will admit I'm bias because I'm handsome, successful, aggressive, muscular, big dick etc. Some of that was worked for, some of it I was just born with. I once had a conversation with a few guys about picking up chicks and I was just like yeah just walk up and ask their name and talk about anything. And one of the guys gave me a look and said "Yeah well not everyone's face looks like it's sculped out of marble." I didn't have a response for that.What it really breaks down to is that being a top 30% male is awesome. Being a middle male is alright. Being a low tier male is pretty ass.Being a top 30% female is pretty good, but doesn't reach the level of top males. Being a middle female is honestly not bad either. Being a low tier female sucks, but there are a lot of guard rails and safety nets so it rarely gets THAT bad.Similar to IQ, women's experiences cluster around the average and never get that high. Whereas men's experiences are highly volatile. From king of the world to utter gutter filth.
>>43188402Agreed. So you can be reasonable if you want to. I am a low tier male and I can admit my life would be better if I was female.
>>43186223I am very much in a crash/purge phase rn and would detroon if not for me pozloading every relationship in my life by trooning out. It's sunk cost atp.
>>43188488Well, if it was a direct conversion from say a 3/10 male to a 3/10 female it wouldn't be THAT big of an upgrade. It'd be better, sure. But it wouldn't be wildly better.An advantage males have is that a good portion of their value and SMV is derived from things you can achieve and work for. Money, muscles, charisma, social status etc. Attractiveness matters a lot of course.Whereas for females attractiveness rules everything. Which is something you can improve (males too) by dressing better, taking care of your skin, taking care of your hair, not being fat etc. But a lot of it is just how you were born. Ugly betty is not ever going to be on hourglass Stacey's level. And hourglass Stacey is queen of the henhouse no matter what.
>>43188538Women have lower requirements and can easier fake what they don't have naturally. You can't fake your height or body structure as a man, nor you can fake your personality or charisma. Even ugly betty can go far, ugly man is invisible.
>>43188254niggas just inventing new terms for gender dysphoria and euphoria
wtf does any of this mean ur all so autistic i can never tell if its actual self hating trannies or just genuine fetishists typing these things either >>43188086>>43187811rel8 but is this not just severe bodychecking? like that’s literally normal contextually
>>43188712>actual self hating trannies or just genuine fetishistsWhy not both
>>43188585Height is great, but empirically it seems overrated. I'm 5' 7" and it's never been a problem. Whereas I've had numerous bros over the years who are over 6' but far less successful with women and in general than me.>fake your personality or charismaYou can, but what you really do is develop it via social exposure, observing socially successful males and adopting tactics and mannerisms and just plain practice. I'm autistic as shit. I would strike up conversations with random strangers on light rail and the bus to develop my conversational skill. Because due to being an autist, I didn't have it naturally.>Even ugly betty can go farWhat exactly do you mean by go far? I hope you aren't viewing it in the lens of male success. Like money, career, bitches etc.For women, going far is securing a quality male. And sure ugly betty may do that, you will see ugly bitches with successful guys. But it's really typically Stacey. And conversely, you will see fat, ugly dudes with hot girls. They're probably very charismatic and the life of the party and have stable income. You also will see ostensibly hot guys who go nowhere because they're retarded and lazy.Being a man is more work because your SMV is things you work for and prove. It's more responsibility and effort. But you have more control of your destiny.Being a woman is less work because it really just boils down to "don't be fat" and "be born hot". But you have little control, your outcome is largely predetermined.
>>43188717well yes true. but i think there’s a difference between phoning in the mirror vs just normal bodychecking that ppl don’t seem to clarify in these agp threads. for some it’s def both tho
