Feminism has always been a female supremacist ideology and movement.youtu.be/qhE38rHQiiE
transgenderism is a misandrist offshoot of feminism/female supremacist thoughtthe goal is to castrate as many males as they can get to fall for their ideology
>>43195100>transgenderism is a misandrist offshoot of feminism/female supremacist thoughtbased >the goal is to castrate as many males as they can get to fall for their ideologyno its not! i dont want other men to troon
>>43194875Nobody cares. Leave women alone already!
>>43195114women should stop abusing men
>>43194875Good
They are also a movement of mass female masculinization
>>43194875Yeah but females are superior like what are you gonna do?Like bruh you think men are better? What are you some kinda fag lol who wouldn’t choose women? I’m sorry it’s just like, true idk what to say.
>>43196532women are idiots
>>43194875not watching your stupid youtube video but you're already retarded for using "feminism" indefinitely as though it's a monolithic ideology instead of a historical movement with different schools.also i'll mention that feminists seem to be the only ones that care about male socialization conditioning boys to be violent unfeeling robots. most MRAs i've interacted with are just bitter incels or tatetards that think doubling down on masculinity will make them happy instead of going to therapy and unpacking their trauma
>>43197237Ah yes my life is going to shit, the world around me is going to shit but at least I can waste some money to cry about myself to some rando in a white coatYou're soooo empathetic :))
>>43197385>some rando in a white coatyou've clearly never seen a therapist... they aren't doctors or psychiatrists.also i literally discuss these facts with my therapist all the time (therapy is basically just gaslighting, can't make up for my material conditions, they're only listening to me because i'm paying them, etc). these things are known and most therapists will readily agree with you for being cynical of the process.the point is developing the patient-therapist relationship. specifically for trauma it's about forming interpersonal trust in a safe setting so that it becomes feasible in the "unsafe" setting of reality. what you actually talk about is not even that important. and that's been known for decades. find a therapist trained in practicing Lacanian psychoanalysis if you don't want a feel-good CBT counselor.
>>43194875they had good reasons to be angry so whatever, who cares>>43197612psychotherapy is a product sold to healthcare that hits KPIs, psychoanalysis and psychology propenents have their heads up their assstrip all pretentious language, terminology, frameworks etc. away - people need a pseudo-parental or friend-like figure to take in their venting and appear invested in their life story, to reduce the burden of bottling up feelings so they can work on their problems, though you pay said friend $50 a week for the displeasure
hi chuddy! here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for your post.
>>43194875That's good, I want hot women stepping all over me.
>>43198061my parents made me see psychologists to fuck with my headthey also had no interest in spending time actually parenting me and felt it was a suitable alternative to pay others to monitor me
>>43194875Feminists were calling for equal rights to men during a time when men were being drafted to die in industrial wars, it makes no sense for women with far fewer consequences from political outcomes to have the same influence in society.
>>43197237Socialization is the process through which individuals internalize the norms, customs, values, and ideologies of their society. Feminists claim that every person who was born anatomically male has undergone “male socialization” regardless or what their upbringing was actually like and regardless of how they actually behave. It’s gender essentialism poorly disguised as constructivism.Feminism has always been a hate movement.>>43197612Psycho-analysis is pseudo-science.
>>43202065behavior is genetic
>>43194875i want to read wollstonecraft and godwin beause percy shelley is teh coolest
>>43202236all i remember about wollstonecraft is expecting her to come out as a lesbian and it never happening
>>43202222If all human behaviour were entirely genetically determined then it would be impossible for human beings to acquire skills e.g. speaking a language. typing, driving a car.
>>43200023>But muh draftOh my goodness gracious literally nobody gives a fuck that's your only thing and circumcision but women have a list of a million things.
>>43202533feminists are the hoteps of women
>>43202728>We have a list of like a million things incel!! There's abortion and ... Uhh...
>>43202261u ever tried reading harry potter to a nigger?
>>43202736Have you ever tried engaging with a logical argument?
>>43202533Umm... sweetie? Oh honey... you really didn't...
>>43202733Rape, abuse, trafficking, etc. And you don't even account for things like getting forced to do sex work and abuse from police and stuff
>>43198175lol
>>43202533Yeah it's not like millions of young men have died in the donbass while their foids were whoring around in bars
>>43203592Why are you calling women whores to try to make me understand what you say when literally that just makes me not listen to you more when you use misogynistic language
>>43203618https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/478675326/#478677021imagine looking at this and think women have it hard lmao.especially WESTERN women who are the most priviledged beings that have ever existed on earth
>>43203630That's just one example cherry picked and plus you literally don't even care what happens to the women in Europe who left? So I don't know what to say about you desu. And plus it said on there a lot of young MEN are running away.I wasn't privileged when I literally got forced to do sex work and get abused over and over just because I had a drug problem you idiot
>>43203657>That's just one example cherry pickedNigga the thread is full of gore of soldiers getting blown out in the most horrific ways possible
>>43203672I went about the war in general not every single time a soldier dies
>>43195100Transgender has been attested for thousands of years and therefore predates feminism.
>>43203678yeah they can also get mutilated and lose all their limbs
>>43203688Okay obviously I just meant about the war in general not just dying obviously holy shit
>>43203727>the war in generalwhat about it? Are you gonna say women are the main victims or some shit like that?
>>43203657Why do some feminists sometimes end a declarative sentence with a question mark?
>>43203738In SOME INSTANCES yeah>>43203744Because that's how normal people talk?
nah that's not true
>>43203763ukranian men are unable to leave the country, are forcibly drafted and thrown into a trench near kherson to get their faces blown out by a russian drone, women meanwhile can go to spanish or italian beaches to get dicked all day and night
>>43203792So you have all this sympathy when bad stuff happens to MEN but meanwhile when women get abused and traumatized everyday that's just normal to you
>>43203807whatever bad thing women go through is not a tenth of the suffering the millions of ukrainan and russian soldiers are going through as we speak
>>43203828You are literally minimizing all women's experience right now though
>>43203828And men always make us do stuff we don't want to even when we say no
>>43203845>>43203837Was your entire face blown out by a bomb in a trench? No? Then shut the fuck up about having it hard, faggot.
>>43203763Are you asking me or are you telling me?
>>43203851I LITERALLY GOT SEXUALLY ASSAULTED ALL THE TIME FOR DRUGS AND STUFF
>>43203856Telling you obviously
>>43194875MRAs are so boringMake your own fucking movement and shut up about women committing the evil crime of not wanting to get raped in marriage and have female dominated professions not be paid significantly less on average
>>43203861There was a russian soldier that hanged himself after chechens and africans raped him
>>43203876Okay well that's fucking horrible and I would never wish that on anyone but how does that just magically undo what happened to ME
>>43203891For starters, you are not a real woman so it's kind of pointless to debate this with you. But the trade-off was good. Men took care of politics and died in wars while the women (who were also supposed to keep their virtue until marriage) took care of the house and the kids. But now women are into politics too, they are allowed to whore around, they don't want to take care of the house nor have kids, so what's the point of forcing men to die in wars? What's left to die for?If you are not forced to die for society, you should have a say in how it is supposed to work
>>43203916>you should haveyou should not have*
>>43203916Ever considered just refusing the draft collectively much like the suffragettes fought for independence? You’re aware bitching is not how political change is achieved right?The suffragettes bombed shit and performed public demonstrations. They fired an arrow at the prime minister’s head.
>>43203916>you are not a real womanLol I'm shocked. Retarded incel
>>43203946Entirely different scenarios iqlet. If ukranian men didn't get drafted half of the country would be russian by now>>43203960About what?
>>43203946No he didn't because he just wants to have something to complain about forever
>>43203965I'm shocked you're also transphobic not just misogynistic
>>43203965Well 10% of the armed forces were women so I guess women do deserve rights to vote since clearly they are willing to serve in combat even if their government doesn't force them to I wonder how many men would’ve volunteered if not for the draft? Guess we’ll never know. Maybe women would’ve ended up being the majority of volunteers in that world
>>43203966True, like I said before MRAs are deeply boring peopleIf they put half the effort they put into hysterically whining about women towards class activism we’d be living in a paradise by nowBut nah, they’re still bitter they got turned down for prom when they were 14 by a girl who clearly made the right choice to reject him
>>43203978>>43203987Literally though the stuff he says is so dumb and doesn't even make sense
>>43203974transwomen just don't belong in this discussion, sorry. >>43203978these numbers are literally nothing, the ukranian armed forces were in the millions before the war started
>>43204004You’re right, it’s very unjustified that women if given the choice would rather not engage in mass suicide.The problem here is certainly women and not the draft
>>43204009No retard, the problem is that women are allowed to participate in a society they are not forced to die for, unlike men.>BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE DRAFTWithout the draft, said society would die.
>>43204004Yes we do because whether you like it or not we're women and you literally got proved wrong but then just said it wasn't enough.>>43204009Literally he should be surprised at how many of them did?? Because most people would never
>>43204017So you basically are saying you want women to die. Just wow
>>43203866>MRAs are so boringThe world's interest correlate's strongly with one's iq>Make your own fucking movementThey did, which is why they have a name by which you whine about them. As long as trans women are forced to enroll in the draft like cis (never trans) men, I will support men's rights. As long as "women's rights" just means afab rights, there is no reason whatsoever for me to care about them
>>43204021>Yes we do because whether you like it or not we're womenIn this discussion you really do not. Women's priviledge in society derives from their womb and their roles as mothers, something trans women lack.>>43204022In israel women are also forced into conscription, i think that's a fair trade-off
>>43203995I remember years back I wanted to see if if MRAs had valid points or were just misogynistsSo I went over to the mensrights subreddit, made a long post where I actually dialed back my feminism and conceded a lot of ground to their positionThey called me uneducated, hysterical, operating in bad faith.And then the funny part happened, they started linking me articles to ‘disprove me’I read the articles, and found very quickly that the articles and studies they sent actually said the opposite of what they claimedI pointed this out to them and got a lot of responses ranging from ‘you are making that up’ to just flat out not replying to me after being so eager to priorI asked them why they wouldn’t carry out actual action and why all of their issues were contingent on putting women down rather than fighting for rights of their own, they just started telling me all women are ungrateful whores and the 60s were the best time, when a guy could rape his wife and talk over her like the big strong manly man he isIt seems lost on these people that if we went back to the olden days they’d still be just as broke and pathetic as now, people who live in mummy’s basement don’t tend to be attractive to fathers looking to sell their daughters
>>43204026Most feminists are trans inclusive unless you're literally British or something>>43204029Women aren't privileged
>>43203865It wasn’t obvious, because you punctuated a declarative sentence with a question mark. Question mark. Read that again slowly.
>>43204034Literally mras are just incels like literally basically all of them. And they're all sexist too
>>43204035western women are the most spoiled creatures in existence, you're a troon though, one of the most discriminated creatures in existence, so this obviously doesn't apply to you
>>43204017‘I don’t like the draft but also we should have the draft but also shouldn’t be drafted because they need to be barefoot in the kitchen but also it’s so unfair women aren’t drafted’
>>43204038Have you ever talked to a real person
>>43202533Plenty of men give a fuck>But muh rapeOh my goodness gracious literally nobody gives a fuck that's your only thing
>>43204035Western cis women are the most privileged human beings who have ever existed.
>>43204044No they aren't you aren't a woman so you wouldn't know how hard it is and fyi calling trans women creatures is weird as hell
>>43204026I’m not bored by you because I am incapable of understanding your position, I’m bored by it because I’ve heard all your talking points before and you fuckers never bother to take actual actionWomen tried, you don’t
>>43204048I think you should honestly kill yourself if you in such a place where you can honestly reply to a rape victim with that
>>43204045You are being retarded on purpose. The draft is necesary for a society to survive, the ideal society is where the man takes on the leading role of both the war and society, while the woman nurtures the house and the kids. But since women don't want that, they should be forced to die with us>>43204054You are not a woman either so you wouldn't know how hard it is :D
>>43204066You’re such a funny lil fish, you seem to genuinely believe killing yourself for a rich man’s war is noble and neededKnock yourself out king, you clearly are in love with the draft so I won’t stop you
>>43204061That's literally my point a lot of the time is so many men are just literally evil and just want to hurt women as much as possible.>>43204066I am a woman retard and I know I'm a woman because men think they can do whatever they want to me
>>43204076>just let russia/israel conquer youbrilliant plan nona, no one had ever thought about it>>43204081>i'm a woman because i got rapednot how it works
>>43204081So many men literally do not see women as the same species. They think women need to appeal to the ‘natural order’ whilst being blissfully ignorant that if we appealed to the natural order of how men and women acted in nature women would still decide suitors just the same and would undoubtedly skip over their balding selves.And because they don’t view women as the same species they find fun little ways to create cognitive dissonance, allowing them to celebrate women’s deaths and rape, never seeming to pick up that once again in a state of nature, these men would’ve been beaten to death with clubs for creating a disordered pack
>>43204102Ever considered if Russia also didn’t hold a draft then the issue would go?Starting to sense maybe women aren't the issue but war is and you are deferring to women rather than the elites
>>43204047This question is completely irrelevant.
>>43204114Hilarious response
>>43204119This remark is also completely irrelevant.
>>43204110>Ever considered if Russia also didn’t hold a draft then the issue would go?russian officers aren't kidnapping russians from the street and forcing them to die in donbass, they have a numeric advantage. They use volunteers and mercs
>>43204160The autism dripping of these replies is heroin to me >>43204165Still not explaining to me how war isn’t the issue?
>>43204174Why do you find my ability to stay on task amusing?
>>43204174This war? This is nothing, wait until the european race riots start, then it'll be ethnic massacres not seen since the balkan wars
>>43204188Oh my god. Never change. You sound like a little Ben Shapiro! I want to squish your cheeks >>43204189Did you write this one handed?
>>43204106Literally men don't even know about history or nature if they think they would have it better in the past like mras wouldn't do good in cave times and stuff
>>43204200Being an autistic man is a humiliation ritual.
>>43204223They never seem to realise that if they were alive in Roman times they’d either be choking on their own breath in a mine or be a concubine >>43204227The autism wouldn’t be an issue if your politics weren’t also garbage. Become a nicer person, you’ll get laid
>>43204200reddit-tier comeback>>43204106>>43204245>but rome>but cave timesi'm talking about the times my dad and grandad grew up in
>>43204245All of my friends think that I’m a nice person and I got laid in January.
>>43204254In your dads time it still wouldn't be as good as you think
>>43204254Your grandad benefited from the post war economic boom and socialist taxation policy, their lives were not materially better because they could beat their wives>>43204257Are they aware of your politics? And well done on the getting laid! I’m super proud of you
>>43204270>>43204273yeah i am sure it's the taxation policy and not being raised by a single mama with no dad in sight
>>43204295Are you blaming your mother for raising you rather than the deadbeat dad…?
>>43204295Does your mom know you talk to women like this
>>43204273>Are they aware of your politics?Given that I haven’t expressed a single political view in this thread, I have no idea what politics of mine you think that you’re talking about.>well done on the getting laid! I’m super proud of youThere’s no need to be patronizing.
>>43204338Women’s rights aren’t political to you?And I’m not patronising at all, I’m very proud of you
>>43204312>another reddit-tier one linerI was raised by my 2 parents thankfully enough. But the point is that women have eroded the concept of marriage and family>>43204328She hates me for being a fag lolll>>43204338xhe thinks you are me
>>43204344That wasn’t a one liner lad, that was genuine questionRemember how divorce was invented by a man because he wanted to fuck six women? Funny thatHere’s a little hypothetical for youYou get married, she’s wonderful, everything you want, you’re very happyThen she starts beating you. She finds knives and threatens you with them. She insults you routinely and you are scared of being alone with herShould you be able to divorce her?
>>43204341Another utterly irrelevant question. I think that you may be confusing me with another poster.Also, you’re gaslighting me now. Don’t do that. I’m Autistic, yes, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t tell when you’re being patronizing. It’s very obvious.
>>43204356Why are you here if not to discuss women’s rights? Don’t tell me you came to this post to be a grammar Nazi, have more respect for your time please
>>43204354foids say shit like this and then marry ted bundy XD
>>43204373Reddit one liner If you don’t want to engage with the hypothetical because it makes you look like a dummy just say lil guy
>>43204361The OP expresses zero opionions about women’s rights, retard. (Also, the term “grammar Nazi” trivializes Nazism, a politics that caused the deaths of millions. Consider not doing that.)
>>43204385Don’t terminology Nazi pls
>>43204382 Your premise is flawed because you think women are not attracted to abusive and violent men
>>43204393We’re not talking about getting into the relationship, we’re talking about the right to leave itStop being a pussy and answer the hypothetical with your chest, if your wife starts trying to stab you should you be allowed to divorce her?
>>43195110WE TRANSMAXXIN NOW, TROONYYEEEEEHAAAAAWWWWWgimme the estrogen!!I want to give up on my life and set up shop in a bichud's!! Pay for my stuff!My butthole is cold!Drive me places!!GIVE ME DINNERSTRANSMAXXIN TRANSMAXXIN
>>43204389Consider not trivializing Nazism, a politics that caused the deaths of millions.
>>43204397Why would i answer your way of deflecting the topic? My grandad and dad's times were happier because back then being raised by single moms was one in a hundred instead of one out of 4. And being raised by single moms has nothing to do with the ability to divorce or not, it has to do with being promiscuous and having a 50+ bodycount after college
>>43204413This is such a little bitch move.Come on squirt, stop being a coward, man up and answer a hypothetical.You’re supposed to be leading wars and yet a hypothetical scares you
>>43204411Please go outside
>>43204436I go outside every single day of my life.
>>43204420>This is such a little bitch move.why? because i refuse to cooperate with your deflection?
>>43204393Women don't want to get abused you fucking asshole
>>43204455I won't fall for your female-brained lies, i know you get aroused when men choke you.
>>43204450You are a coward who doesn’t want a productive conversation You want to endlessly whine about women and the moment someone pushes back you either make a snarky remark or flat out refuse to engageAnd it’s because you do not have a coherent political position You thrive on the politics of resentment. You resent women, so all problems must be the result of women.Any counterargument I give you will talk past rather than engaging with. Any hypothetical is treated as ‘a trap’You do this because you are fundamentally a small man who can’t change anything about his embarrassing life, so all you have left is resentment.One day I hope you change, or you kill yourself. Either way I’ll be happy
>>43204468It’s amazing how much of right-wing rhetoric is baseless assumptions about women (or other demographics they despise)
>>43204468I lived through that kind of thing and I didn't like it and neither do other girls fyi
>>43204479>You are a coward who doesn’t want a productive conversationYou're the one who deflected the conversationi said>i'm not talking about rome or the caveman era, i'm talking about the era my grandpa and dad lived onyou said>they lived good because of tax policies or somethingi said>no, they lived good because the concept of family wasnt destroyedthen you went>but what if your wife wants to kill youWhich doesn't excuse shit.>>43204482>>43204502ok lol, i believe you :D
>>43204502except for all the transgirls* on here that beg for it every 12 posts or so
>>43204513Idiot
>>43204511Okay. Let’s do this.I want you to give me actual statistical evidence backed reasoning for why the only reason your grandfather’s time was prosperous.You are not allowed to use correlative statistics as evidenceYou are not allowed to use a no-evidenced think pieceI’ve tried to give my explanations, you’ve declined and moved into the amorphous zone of ‘the nuclear family solves it all’Evidence that claimBecause I can definitely evidence the post war economic boom and socialist taxation policySo you need to provide a better argument
>>43204532>>I want you to give me actual statistical evidence backed reasoning for why the only reason your grandfather’s time was prosperous.I think you misunderstood my point of view in the first place. YOU think i prefer my grandfather's time because it was economically prosperous, when in reality i prefer it because the concept of family and virtue still meant something
>>43204546Okay, why does that matter? Can you give me in plane text why a nuclear family is importantWorth noting in this conversation that I was raised by a single mother and have had a successful outcome in life
>>43204546So do you think if you had a nuclear family they would accept you if you're gay?? Why do you even want a nuclear family if you're gay? That's stupid
>>43204555>in plane text
>>43204563Don’t try to be funny, you’re not good at itAnswer the question
>>43204560i find both men and women attractive, i've never had sex with a man nor do i ever want to, because it's just a pain in the ass to train your ass to be able to take dick>>43204555https://karger.com/hde/article-abstract/47/4/193/157363/Theorizing-the-Father-Child-Relationship?redirectedFrom=fulltexthttps://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/138/1/e20161128/52467/Fathers-Roles-in-the-Care-and-Development-of-Their?autologincheck=redirected
>>43204566I’m not >>43204546, I’m your favourite pedantic Autistic man >>43204114 ~ >>43204227 lol
>>43204594One:I have skim read the first article you provided and read in full the conclusion. This study is on primate behaviour and playing habits and makes a hypothetical link between this and human social structure and development. It ultimately concludes this research is currently in its infancy and more focus needs to be placed on it in future.Two:This is not even an empirical study, this is a causation study. A type of study thats useful to prompt further research but does not categorically prove anything.Also worth mentioning all the fathers selected were wealthy and in stable relationships, the study does not reference unhealthy marriages in any way.So neither of these prove anything. You have given me two studies that are intended to prompt further study and are largely correlative opinion pieces
>>43204034Also genuinely funny this thing is happening again
>>43204643It's 4 am in my state, i would love to spam more studies i got from google but sadly i have to sleep
>>43204663Can you not see this is kind of a pathetic approach to debating?You send two studies you clearly haven’t read, and rather than reflecting that maybe sending random studies to back up a point that in no way prove your point isn’t a productive debate strategy you just say you’d ’spam more’Any way, enjoy your nap
>>43204670He clearly doesn’t care what the studies actually say, lol. Relevant: youtu.be/IqeFeqInoXc
>>43204719Oh I know he doesn’t care. I just wanted to see at what point he’d entirely stop replying if I pushed enough
>>43204732I respect your persistence in discourse and find it paradoxical that you do not respect mine. >>43204119 >>43204174 >>43204200 I am curious to know what the reason for this is.
>>43204759Because in a conversation about people’s rights caring about grammar and phrasing is the behaviour of a pedant rather than a serious person with a position worth considering‘I think that black people being lynched and you’re politics are incoherent’And then someone slides in and their reply to that is:‘*your’This is not a conversation I think is worth having and I don’t respect it
>>43204818*’I think that black people being lynched is bad’
>>43204818But nona, at no point in this conversation have I said anything about anyone’s rights.
>>43204838And neither did OP, so actually, it was the posters discussing rights who were posting off-topic.
>>43204838But you don’t get my actual point.Yes, grammar consistency is important in academic contexts Yes, incorrect spelling or grammar is inherently a mistakeBut why, of all places, did you decide to focus on grammar in a discussion like this? I accept I couple be dismissive and oftentimes a tad mean, but in a conversation based around people actively expressing politics that is directly hurtful to me and arguing largely in bad faith you were just a random guy who acts as my spellcheck rather than contributing anything to the actual point of the threadI genuinely would’ve preferred if you went on a rant about how all women are selfish whore because at least then it would be on topic
>>43204858I do think claiming feminism is about female supremacy is inherently political anon
>>43204868I agree. I’d like to point out that a claim can be political and have a truth value as well. The fact is that even the earliest feminists believed that women are better (e. g., more moral, better-behaved, etc.) than men. Feminism has always been a female supremacist movement. Note that this isn’t the same as saying “I think that men and women should have different civil rights” or something like that.
>>43203946>The suffragettes bombed shit and performed public demonstrations. They fired an arrow at the prime minister’s head.Proof that feminism is a violent practice
>>43204928Proof that violence achieves political results. For every MLK you need a Malcolm X. Say what you will about the troubles and the communist revolution but they actually achieved something >>43204887I’d argue you’re ascribing a moral standard to women who were routinely beaten and raped systemically. I think a little bit of misandry within early forms of feminism is very unsurprising. Let’s not pretend if we lived under a matriarchy men Wouldn’t be just as misogynistic towards women. Actually this thread is proof of that. Even under a patriarchy men are routinely misogynistic to women in an attempt to bolster their politics
>>43204962If MRAs did take action to achieve their desired world, you would oppose that action.I’ve been assaulted by three women. For comparison, I’ve only been assaulted by one man. Would you say that I’ve earned the right to claim that men are morally superior to women?
>>43204962If social conditions were such that you considered your society a matriarchy, you would support those conditions, and you would still oppose misogyny. All feminist practices involve imposing double standards on women and men.
>>43204984I think you’ve earned the right to be wary around women and think a lot women are poor at consent. I don’t think however this justifies a broader political project against 4 billion women or sweeping misogyny to all of them >>43205008Not at all. I hate certain strands of ‘men bad’ feminism. I am anti misandry and I think women are just as bad as men. Just men have more institutional power than women
>>43205062Do you think that every single individual man has “more institutional power” than every single individual woman in every context?
>>43205079I’m referring to systemic power rather than individual.Yes, women have more power in some areas, such as family courtHowever, men are systemically favoured consistently in: income, politics, healthcare, hiring practices and general media The world isn’t totally black and white. Women have powers, but they have less
>>43205093Uh-huh. And what do you think should be done about this?
>>43205105A companion movement to feminism focused on men rightsNot ‘women are bad’ instead ‘this is where men are treated poorly’I’d happily support a movement that:>advocated for fathers in family court without preferential treatment to either party>advocated for an end to the draft universally (yes I’m aware it would not stop everywhere and thats a whole other issue)>provided mental health outreach for men>provided opportunities to men in traditionally female dominated fields to end gender segregated labour>acknowledged that women too can be perpetrators of crime against men and provided education But I lose all sympathy when I see MRAs being neither proactive nor actually focused on men’s issues, choosing instead to put down women
>>43204670>Can you not see this is kind of a pathetic approach to debating?I really have no interest in proving to you something as simple as fatherhood being important in a kid's life, i thought it was basic knowledge getting raised by a family instead of a single mom that hates her situation is betterhttps://www.allforkids.org/news/blog/a-fathers-impact-on-child-development/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8923429/
