(This is with 6 months of Estrogen):Height: 180cm / 5'11Weight: 75kg / 165 lbsBust: 97 cm / 38.2 inUnderbust: 87 cm / 34.3 inWaist: 82 cm / 32.3 inHips: 98 cm / 38.6 inShoulders (bideltoid): ~54 cm / 21 in
>>43195519>6 months of estrogenlolfor your measurements, theyre not far off from mine. ive only ever gotten gendered male. unless you have great hair, no 5oclock shadow, and a beautiful face, youre going to be stuck as a man forever, just like me
>>43196997why lol? shitty measurements for 6 months or because "6 months is nothing u dumbass"?Ive never malefailed yet either. I have p. good hair but i cant style it for shit. Idk about beautiful face but its not awful at least. Luckily v little beard shadow tho i think, and mostly just above my lips and on mt chin and not like all over my face. I still hate it tho...And yeah ig ill look like a man forever. Tho mayb im fine with that (?). I just wanna have a chance at liking myself/how i look more and maybe getting to look a lil pretty sometimes...
>>43195519They are measurements that you’d expect out of a male for that height and weight.
>>43195519Those are some rough shoulders, I won't lie.
>>4319551921" shoulders is pretty much gg, mine are like 15 or 16 and im still pretty fucked
>>43198252OP is measuring bideltoid, not biacromial.
>>43198267im aware, thats where i measure too
>>43198182:C really?I lost a bunch of weight when i got on E/a bit before (90kg -> 75 kg) so yeah i always feared that my nicer waist now (which i really really like) is more from weight loss than E.But i also have some super ancient measurements from when i was like 19 or sth and weighed ~80kg. And then my waist circumference was still about 10 cm more (ie ~91 cm).So i was hoping that means at least some of my current waist is thanks to E? Or does only 5kg difference actually make for 10 cm waist difference E or no E :C?
>>43198293E doesnt change waist size, silly girl. It also doesnt widen hips (the bones, fat distribution can make them kinda wider), narrow shoulders or meaningfully reduce height. :D fuck our stupid tranny lives
>>43198293>So i was hoping that means at least some of my current waist is thanks to E? no>does only 5kg difference actually make for 10 cm waist difference E or no Eyes. also you’re still fat.>>43198287luckshit
>>43198182Altho wait i gotta defend E on one point here. I dont really have tits, more like heavy gyno maybe. But i know for a fact that pre E my under bust to bust difference was like 1-2 cm at most and now its 10 cm.Plus ofc i can tell that my chest looks dofferent now lol. Just sucks that this is the one thing that is unequivocally working. Like tits are nice, but the other feminization effects are more desireable/a higher priority to me :c.Plus ofc im scared they might out me or just look bad bc male torso/male looking otherwise. (or i just get unlucky and they have an ugly shape or sth :c)
>>43198326>luckshit5'928" waist30" under bust34" bust"luckshit" lol, lmao even
>>43198252Yeah i hate my shoulders a lot :c.My only copes are that biacromial is kinda hard to measure with what i had lying around so maybe i just fucked it up lol.And that my sisters also dont have great shoulders. I even talked about it with them b4 and they hate it too. It might be genetics tho our current working theory is that its bc our parents made us take swimming lessons weekly for basically our entire childhood lol.Still sucks tho ofc. I also hate my ribcage a lot, its so fukin large :c. Kinda confused no one mentioned it yet actually lol. Is it maybe no tthat bad? But nah it prob is :C
Just post a pic, the measurements dont tell about fat/muscle/bone mass clearly
>>43198392if you have muscular shoulders E will atrophy them a bit. conservatively you might lose .5" maybe 1" if youre lucky
>>43198390how is that not a luckshit? you have a 30in underbust with 15in shoulders, basically unheard of in amabs
>>43195519greek mythology ogre tier
>>43198464i trained my shoulders to pull in, takes it down from ~16.5". im still not a luckshit tho. i started E like 7 months ago at 20 and my tits are still small, i have hip dips and my hips arent very wide. im all scandi so manly face too. twinkhon midshit at best
>>43198464>>43198535true luckshit shit means 5'6" and below and with the majority of proportions below or no more than 15% above average female for a given height. at least in my mimd
>>43198326damn i was really hoping it might have been E :c. Altho mayb its still? Not sure bjt i think even when i was closer to 90 kg my waist was still around 91 cm? But idk might be making that up i cant check rn.and yeah i also still wanna lose weight (at least to do weight cycling or sth). Like the original plan was to go to like 70 kg and then cycle back up to 75.But ive been stuck around 75 for a while now and it somehlw seems harder to go lower tha before :c.Or ig i just detrans now since it seems that one of my favourite changes (waist) was just weight loss lol.Altho idk prob not, not 100% certain how i feel abt breasts, which scares me sometimes. But i do like the face and skin and body hair growth changes as well and idk how id get those otherwise lol.
>>43198565im >>43198464 and im 5'6 with a 17in bideltoid and 32in underbust, i look like a fucking BRICK
>>43198590>with the majority of proportions below or no more than 15% above average female for a given heightread stupid bitch!!but damn that fucking sucks, im sorry. you might still pass if youre brown
>>43198267Yes and 21" bideltoid is not good. 21" biacromial seems legitimately impossible.
>>43198008>And yeah ig ill look like a man forever. Tho mayb im fine with that (?). I just wanna have a chance at liking myself/how i look more and maybe getting to look a lil pretty sometimes...I’m gonna rip that Bandaid off right now it’s more common to hate/resent yourself for being ugly
>>43198610>you might still pass if youre browni am brown yes (mexican) and honestly i would have a better chance being white cause real mexican women are like 5'2 with 12-13in bideltoids
>>43198432i hope so. But then again ive not been to these swimming lessons in like 6+ years and otherwise also not active.Plus already 6 mo E, if it was gonna be reduced from muscle atrophy woulsnt that have happened already?
post selfie op
>>43198411....im tempted. But im also very aware that that might be a very stupid idea lol.
>>43198636wdym?
>>43198663edit it to just be a silouette
>>43198663just block out your face, its not that deep
>>43198008lol because 6 months is nothing. check back in 1.5 years from now
>>43198641>i am brown yes (mexican)i meaaan still maybe possible. most people csnt distinguish different types of brown so you can just pretend to be brazilian or something. >i would have a better chance being whitethats where youre wrong. white people have the largest male to female feminity/masculinity spread. meaning if you were to quantity femininity and masculinity, with absolute femininity being -1, absolute masculinity being 1, and perfect androgyny being 0, white people have the highest range between the average man and woman. white guys are pretty masculine on average and white girls are pretty feminine on average. asians have a small range that leans feminine, blacks/haitians have a small to medium range that leans masculine, and mexican, central and south americans have a medium range with a fairly neutral lean, i. e no lean. being white means its hsrdest to go from one to the other because your masculinity/femininity index must change the most.>>43198644>Plus already 6 mo E, if it was gonna be reduced from muscle atrophy woulsnt that have happened alreadymuscle atrophy is one of the most long term effects, so nah not really surprising.
>>43195519post the picture, foid
>>43198644atrophy depends even more on diet/exercise levels than hrt, plus 6 months is nothing.
>>43198795>you can just pretend to be brazilian or something.thats still a problem because female brazilians are still tiny, i would need to be as small as sayuri mattar or something to have a good chancewhat i meant by having a better chance being white is that if i were as feminine as i am now but white i would pass, i see white women that are my size constantly but never mexican/hispanic women my size
Ok this is probably angle frauding or w/e cuz its not a straight forward facing angle but i tried taking pics rn and hate every single one of them lol.So for my own sanity i picked an older one i kinda liked at least, even if its prob not conducive for figuring out how bad i look. But its sth at least.Also ik i do still look like ass/v. moidy so pls be gentle :c?
>>43199402Lose weight and exercise. Your measurements are poor and your body is male but that is like 95% of trannies.There is still the chance for it to change later on since you’re only half a year on hrt.For now, you are a hon.
>>431955196' tall35" ub31" waist40" hips17" bideltAround 165 lbsUr shoulders r kinda chopped if those r the actual measurements nona
>>43199402She couldn't even fit her shoulders in the selfie
>>43200051Did you measure wrong? I cant even picture what 17" shoulders to 35" underbust looks like
>>43200051Yeah other measurements that have been posted here for bideltoid are so much smaller im starting to think i might have just done it wrong.If it helps i did measure it in another way but that also still resulted in a bideltoid of 50 cm / 19.7 in.
>>43200288ok my shoulders are bad. But in my defense its a super narrow mirror bc its just on the side of a cabinet.
Also fuck it ig ill post a few more helpful/less angled pictures as well:
>>43200352Dw I still think ur cute Do you fuck girls?
i hate how my hands look as well. i dont remember the measurements but iirc i took them once (like hand width or sth) and it was in like the largest 5% for women or sth :c.also feels like my shoulders tend to look a bit worse in pictures bc i have to hold up the phone. which feels like it exagerrates them a bit vs if i could just stand with my hands by my side. altho ig in these two pics my hair/hand covers my shoulder on one side and balances it out a bit.
>>43200452Basically every tranny ive ever seen has hands like this especially when u stretch them out to hold an entire phoneMy tit pics are subpar cuz the shoulder thing tooIm deeply envious of your hair & I hate you for it so stop being self conscious so I can pick on you more efficiently
>>43200409you look fine. dont worry so much about it. maybe drop a few lbs but dont obsess over it
>>43200529Lmao thanks for the praise on my hair, i deliberately tried to get it into the pics cuz ik its my one good feature lmao.If it helps you be less envious: My hairline got fucked by T as early as when i was around like 18-19 yo. So i cant do any hair styles with like a high ponytail or anything cuz itd be obvious that my temples are bald/my hairline is shit.Its only rescued by the fact that at least for usual hair style its kinda hard to see/even ppl ive known for years tell me they couldnt tell when i show them.Still sucks really bad tho that even my best feature doesnt come without a caveat :C.
>>43200292I did measure wrong lol. I remeasured and its 18 bidelt and 34 ub
>>43200856Ya it didnt look like what u claimed anyways & looks fine on ur frameI would do gay things to you op I admit it
>>43200409you look pretty and we have similar measurements, thanks for the hopium
>>43200409>>43200418Youll be fine in time I think. Prob will just need a BA.
>>43200409>>43200418Maybe I’m just dumb as shit, but you look like plenty of cis women I know, I think you’re doing fine nona
>>43202625thata nice to hear :D.why do you think ill need BA tho? is it cuz my ribcage/build is large enough that hrt prob wont give me enough boob on jts own to balance it out?
>>43203788Well you should wait till 2-3 years hrt before BA in my opinion but yes it'll make the shoulders and ribcage look smaller. As long as you have enough hip to balance it, implants will make a big difference.
>>43200409just get clav reduction surgery will reduce your bideltiod width by 6cma and bring u in range for a woman w ur height
>>43203896For the dumbass babytrans in the back: what’s a BA?
My shoulders are 17 inches and my hips are only 12 should I just not even start
>>43204791Breast Augmentation
>>43203896yeah ik that i should def wait for the growth to finish before getting any surgery.im wondering tho why u seem to already be sure ill need it. is my chest too large already to be likely to have it be offset just by hrt induced breast growth :c?also i worry tho they wont offset it. i mean like, it might make it look more fem, but ill still have a large torso/chest right. Arguably even more so than before because of the substantial breasts lol.but yeah ig itll give me more curves at least so ig still a large chest but not as boxy anymore at least. thatll prob be fine esp since k already like my current breast growth since it gives me the slightest amount of curves up top lol/accentuates my waist a bit in that way.just sucks cuz ideally i think id like to have a small ribcage already and smaller boobs as well. But its not like that is really an option anymore :C.So ig ill have fo nake my peace with bigger ones in the hopes itll balance out my shitty frame.
>>43195519It’s all ogre now.
>>43195519I have 50cm shoulders and I am 1,77mit's possible, I'm passing because proportions matter and I have 113cm hips
>>43200418you could hit the gym and train your lower body for better proportions and cycle a lot
>>43207571good to hear, however my hips are not nearly as good as urs lol.plus, i dont have a measurement for this, but, my butt/ass is unfortunately also v bad/flat :C.
