I don't understand why HSTS transition. Think whatever you want about AGPs, but at least we truly desire to be women and feel terrible as men. HSTS can have sex with men without transition, AGP usually can't. So where does the need to be a woman come from? It's not like there is extreme homophobia today, you can have a fine life as a gay male.
>>43196809trauma and disgust with being a homo.as for AGPs, fetish that hijacked the entire persona.grim in either case but at least hsts's are usually more self aware and could be accepted in women's spaces without being creepy.
>>43197038I think "AGP fetishist" is far more disgusting to other people than a homo.
>>43197061yes. to clarify i mean that being disgusted with homosexuality is what drives certain gays to transition. (the question is where hsts's come from). also hsts's do not like other gay men romantically and are hoping to bag a "straight" guy by transitioning.
to escape homophobic persecutionpeople want homosexuals castrated and are willing to be nicer to them in a fake way if said gays are willing to humiliate themselves publicly by transitioning because it shows they aren't a threat
>>43196809Gay men aren't hot/are naturally too feminine or overly masculine in a performative ways. The average straight guy walking down the street is more attractive than "hot" gay guys
>>43197139Is that average straight guy the partner HSTS hopes to get?
>>43196809Im not attracted to feminine guys and the gays that I find hot were never willing to date me. The only time I got close to being in a relationship it turned out he was too afraid to be seen in public with me.
>>43196809>I don't understand why HSTS transition.Because they already are women, and they're fixing biology's mistake.
>>43197195*specifically because I wore faggy outfits and makeup which cause people to stare.
>>43196809nigga agps will father multiple children before transitioning
>>43197185Speaking from personal experience, yes, I go for the average straight guy. Like others will tell you, even when gay guys are masc they're not really masc. It's performative. Consider hussies to have the ick for gay guys. I'm not *only* attracted to the way men look when they're frozen in an image. It's a holistic thing, and gay dudes are wired different from hets.
>>43197221What point are you making?
>>43197248Interesting. Is it difficult to get with the men you want?
>>43197185My taste is odd but this is the partner I hope to get
trannies are pick me faggots convinced they are too good to suffer as gay men
>>43197295Why would it be odd?
>>43197273Not really. Looks wise I definitely date down, but it's okay. I'm happy to get with a guy I vibe with. Transition allowed me to live an almost normal cishet life. It's something I'm able to forget about except when I'm posting in places like this for a little queer outlet.
>>43197318>Transition allowed me to live an almost normal cishet lifet. least larping homophobe
>>43196809Straight men are a significantly larger pool to choose from than gays and bichuds
>>43197318Honestly, that's awesome and I hope you enjoy it to the most. Such normalcy is for many of us completely out of reach.
>>43197329I get this motivation more than AGPs though, Also if HSTS's were the vast majority of troons there wouldn't be this giant social backlash happening right now.The only drawback is that most detransitioners seem like HSTS's who realize they were better off being gay but they ended up mutilating their body,
>>43197377>more than AGPs thoughDo you think AGPs have better alternative?
>>43197377>actually believing people on 4chan that they escaped being gay and everyone sees them as straight nowmay I offer you a tremendous bridge in Brooklyn, NY?
Ultimately it's palliative care regardless of the etiology. If transitioning makes you happier and more productive, you should do it. I don't allow myself to get mad about optics or w/e lol, like if there's some auto mechanic with bolt-ons. No less cringe than drag queens realizing they were using the performance as a repping strategy. To outsiders we're all the same trannies.
>>43197384AGPs should take hormones, get surgeries, etc, if they wish. It's just their relentless political attempts to force other people to see them and treat them as women that makes them noxious.
>>43197440society should treat men better instead of being pressured to pretend men are women
>>43197440Well those consequences naturally happen after hormones and surgeries. It makes more sense to repress, rather than runing it for others as well?
>>43197460What consequences "naturally" happen? If people are fooled by the larp in social circles, good for you. I'm talking about joining women's sports, entering women's prisons, or other exlusively women's spaces. Or shit like trying to get people fired for calling you a man.
>>43197530>AGP gets on hormones and surgeries>AGP does not pass>AGP wants to keep it going on by forcing others to participate
>>43197563That's a big leap between 2&3. Some people (chasers and libs) will be happy to accommodate you. Leave the rest of humanity alone.
>>43197682You misunderstand me, I don't want anyone to accomodate me.
>>43197688Cool then. What's the issue?
>>43197729I don't think AGPs should be encouraged.
>>43196809Im not sure if I'm hsts but I only find straight/bi men attractive and I only feel comfortable being a woman. When I identified as a femboy I dated bi men and freaked out over being seen as a boy still
>>43196809>So where does the need to be a woman come from?you get it beaten into you and eventually you give in. your reward for emotional exhaustion in is ostracism and loathing. sometimes this turns an actual gayboy into a man hating sex worker, sometimes they find a way to persist without hating men for what was done to them, or maybe they only hate some subset of men for it. either way, HSTS is a function of prejudice experienced over years combined with object of desire self consciousness (identification with the object of the learned understanding of mens preferences, distinct from AGP in having its principle outside of them).
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
why do we have to have these garbage blanchardism threads full of people who pretend to have never heard of gender dysphoriakill yourselves retards
>>43199937gender dysphoria is just a way of justifying men acting on their internalized homophobia without addressing the problem directly
>>43199937Gender dysphoria is not a virus nor does it appear out of nowhere, it has its causes. "Blanchardism" is trying to explain the causes.
>>43196809o look another fake conflict shit stirring thread.
I have gender dysphoriaI like menI transition and date menwhere confusion?
>>43204052they think it's all about sex because they're projecting
>>43204060oh I see :(i just did it so I wouldn't wanna kms all the time. attracting guys who are my type is just a nice side effect.
>>43204052Why do you have gender dysphoria?
>>43205091women don't accept men being gay but they do accept women being attracted to men
>>43205097Why care about what women accept?
>>43205100they determine herd inclusion it sucks to be left out of the monkey herd entirely and treated as a leper
>>43205100We all doWe look like monsters if we don't
>>43196809Are we still pretending this is the binary? Both are retarded. You transition for one reason and one reason only: familial curse
>>43205159>familial curseTell me more
