Okay, now it's serious, how do I get rid of AGP? I'm done with this shit, it seriously makes my life worse. I think about it 24/7 and I feel like it drives me mad. I can't live without feeling envy. I can't transition and I don't want to. My male ego is too powerful and I don't feel like I feel enough distress to justify it and I also feel like a dirty pervert. So what do I really do? Hit ze gym? Find a woman? Become a stoic?
If you're thinking about it 24/7 you are definitely in enough distress to justify it dumbfuck"Male ego too strong" shit isn't real you're just a scared insecure little bitch about this.
learn to laugh at it and look at it objectively.Your whole shame and angst routine is part of your fetish. Oooohhh so naughty girl lmao
>>43197512>Your whole shame and angst routine is part of your fetishUhm. Not really. I don't like it at all and I don't like this "emasculation" thing. I want to be a woman not a humiliated man.
>>43197522Based. Yeah, I hate MEF and sissy stuff and allcthat garbage. I want to be a normal woman.
>>43197510>If you're thinking about it 24/7 you are definitely in enough distress to justify it dumbfuckIt's not like I really suffer because of it. Sometimes I feel bad because I can't look like a woman but what I'm talking about are simply repetitive sad thoughts. I don't like them but I wouldn't call that suffering.
>>43197522Youre the one who said agp. Its clear that you are simply gong through a process of making emotional gestures to validate your self concept of performing femininity. But femininity does not arrive in proximal performative gestures. So this is part of your fetishization.
>>43197428Don't you have other fetishes to engage in?
>>43197428Become a monk somewhere where women don't exist to remind you what could have been. I don't think there's really any way, it's your sexual orientation same way as you can't cure being gay.
>>43197428Find a therapist who deals with OCD.You have thoughts but see the thoughts as yourself. This is 95% of humanity and why people suffer.
>>43197556>Youre the one who said agpAGP doesn't mean humiliation fetish though
>>43197566The problem is that it's not that sexual. I think of it even when I'm not horny, hell, I don't even jerk off to it anymore. PNC doesn't help
>>43197673Do you have a terrible relationship with your mom?
>>43197428why can't you transition?
>>43197704I do. How do you know?
>>431977061. I'd be a hon2. It doesn't feel justified (transitioning is wrong because I'm not trutrans)
>>43197673Do you jerk off to anything? Have you ever penetrated/ fantasized about it
>>43197752I guess you are destined to be a cis man on hrt, enjoy titties at your own peace
>>43197764waow another john 50 was born
>>43197791What do you mean? Me or OP?
>>43197721All AGP that isn't entirely a fetish seems to be due to a dysfunctional bond between the boy and his mother, who is usually borderline and domineering, At a young age the young boy inherits her unspoken (or spoken) worldview that being a man is inherently unattractive, evil and bad. Trannyism is his way of coping with it to feel better about himself. The problem is the first issues never gets addressed: he is still mentally imprisoned from his mom because he never finds a way to detach himself from thoughts implanted in him from childhood.
>>43197428troon out lol
>>43197880Fuck...
>>43197764>Do you jerk off to anything?To women or men. I'm bisexual so it basically depends on my mood. I guess I prefer men more, but I'm unsure. And yeah, I'm a bottom when it comes to men. >Have you ever penetrated/ fantasized about itFantasized, yes.
>>43197807wrong reply lmoa meant op ofc>>43197930yeah id just rope atp
>>43197428>"I have crippling dysphoria but I refuse to address it or do the thing that will mitigate it">"what do I do?"ask yourself why you refuse to face facts or help yourself in ways that are effective
>>43197752Seek therapy with GD counseling
>>43197950Why not just focus on penetrating women then?
>>43197930Look at how often posts on this board deal with mommy fetishes and such. Arrested development. Many troons (not all) just used transitioning as the answer to a dysfunctional mother/son relationship but they will remain in an arrested stage of psychological development.
>>43197988I don't have crippling dysphoria I just have intrusive repetitive thoughts. Crippling dysphoria is unbearable, and I can live with it. I just feel like my sanity is vanishing because of it and I'm too focused on it
>>43198021As I said it's not purely sexual. The biggest problem is that I constantly think about it outside of sexual context
>>43198075What should I do to fix it? If that's the main cause, I have other reasons to feel bad as a man.
>>43198076I hope you find someone who is skilled with OCD, Living with freedom is like gaining an entirely new life.
>>43198076You are seriously contradicting yourself within this post alone. Can you live with it or not? Do you have crippling dysphoria or not? It sounds like you do and you're minimizing it to try and ignore the solutions because they're scary and the suffering is comfortable
>>43198076>I don't have crippling dysphoria>describes crippling dysphoria
>>43198125Is it really a solution if it requires luck and good genetics and tons of money and supportive environment etc etc
>>43198125>Can you live with it or not?I can because I do it right now. Sometimes it just feels like it slips out of my control and I can't take it anymore, but it usually goes back to the normal state. (That's why I made this thread btw, I feel like those thoughts aren't okay and I have to do something about it)
>>43198101We all have problems. The main problem many of us have though is letting our thoughts cripple us and make us feel so bad we run in circles. Seek CBT or OCD counselling. Your thoughts will have less of a grip on you, and you can address the real problems calmly and intelligently. Don't even worry about transitioning or not transitioning right now. Deal with the shame first. You can do this.
>>43198125Too many people troon out because their mothers told them men = bad. Trooning out never resolves initial cause of the distress and can cause more self hatred in the long run.
>>43198139Retard repper cope>>43198222>but it usually goes back to the normal stateJust because the pains stops does not mean the pain was never there or that it wasn't real. If you were bleeding out from a deep wound and you live the scar will still be there. Having gender dysphoria isn't "wrong," you are not broken and you deserve to live your best life and not suffer daily
>>43198271I'm sorry but you're beyond retarded
>>43198226It's like being a man sucks and I'll never be good at it anyway. I don't think I got it from my mother. I am autistic and I never had good self esteem.
>>43198291Cope. This board is full of people with mommy issues.
>>43198334Correlation does not equal causation. A bad relationship with ones mom can give you mommy issues, but it can't give you dysphoria
>>43198271Men are bad.
>>43198271I don't think it's one to one that, my mother had some resentment towards my father after the divorce, and maybe some to men in general, but not to the extent of being particular about it, I never internalized it either, not only for most of my life I've been fine about being a man (I'm still largely fine about being born male tbqh), I always defended men from feminism and other unfair social expectations and disdainSpeak of the devil, it's what's been pushing me lately - society isn't getting any better towards men, it's a lot of responsibilities and risks for next to no gains, and I personally haven't been able to find positive male role models and archetypes in my life. Corporate drones, gym rats, redpilled alphas, performative leftists, it's all shit. Women are free to be whoever they want, and society encourages that. They can be their own role models just fine, and nobody pressures them or bothers them about it.I haven't been happy in years. Everything I've done and set out to have turned out to be a complete disappointment. I need to find a job to survive yet I can't motivate myself to do anything because the job market is complete ass and I know I will have to force myself to work in some low pay garbage to get by, probably for the rest of my life. I can't do it anymore. I keep thinking about just ending it all.