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How do I create a legitimately good gender bender / forced feminization story that doesn't come across like a sexual thing and is actually a great story that stands on its own and simply has a feminized protagonist
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forcefem is always sexual
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>>43202199
merely existing is sexual
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Assuming you don't have the time to actually level up your writing abilities, just adapt the structure of a classic story into genderbend
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>>43202153
I'm actually trying to write a forced masc story right now and am having the same issue

My solution was to make the forced masculinisation horror and make it so the story is about how identity defines social consequence and what you gain and lose as a man or woman

Oh and I set it in victorian england to make the gender divide more consequential
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>>43202227
I'm trying to make a fantasy story where a guy through convoluted circumstances ends up having the spirit of a legendary female hero in him to help him grow strong enough to slay a demon lord, but the more powerful he becomes the more he starts to become physically feminine due to having her spirit. Your idea probably less cringe than mine
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>>43202254
I like yours but I think what decides whether your story is fetishistic or not depends entirely on whether the material is intended for arousal

Are you exploring what it means to become feminine? What is your protagonists interiority and opinion of this? Do they like it? Does it say anything about the protagonist how they react to it? Does their treatment change? Do you lean into how horrifying it is to have your body un-consentually changed or not?

I like your concept but I think how fetishistic it is will entirely depend on the execution. And being fetishy is not bad inherently

Like 'Your Name' to me is partially fetishistic whilst being a good movie. 'The skin I live in' is not in my opinion whilst also being a much more mixed bag
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>>43202296
The goal in my story is not intended to be fetishy but more about presenting a feminized male as someone who can be heroic, smart and strong because I never see that. Exploring the other aspects of it, like how they react to becoming more feminine and how they react to being treated as a woman, just makes it a bit more fun and interesting to me
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>>43202153
body horror and identity death are good tropes imo. like staring at your hands or reflection and breaking down type stuff. even better when the protagonist is actually getting used to having a new body
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>>43202335
I like the sound of it. I think you have a good elevator pitch and it entirely depends on how good of a writer you are for how it'll turn out
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As others are saying, lean into the negative emotions and impact.
Have you ever had your proprioception get out-of-whack? Like, sometimes I've been sick with a fever or something, try to get out of bed in the afternoon, and standing up feels like my head is 10 feet above the ground rather than the usual. I can still hobble to the kitchen to get water, or whatever. Body still moves. But it just feels innately wrong and extremely fucked up. Leaning on the proprioception angle could be interesting. Especially since you seem to be focused on combat, and that's likely to be very sensitive to changes in balance and such.
Also, since you're talking about some kind of co-habitation in one body, that'd also be interesting to explore and likely divert attention away from the forcefem angles. Like, how does it work mechanically? Do they have one internal monologue/stream of consciousness, or do they have two? Even if they have two conscious minds, is there a hard division between the subconscious of the two conscious minds, or do signals start getting crossed at some point and the consciousness of one start reacting to the subconscious impulses of the other? And not even just stuff like subconscious emotions. What happens the first time a muscle reacts to something in the mind of the other, and the usual consciousness in control of the body is kind of "along for the ride"? How does that consciousness try to rationalize what it experienced? What if one mind starts to have childhood memories of the other mind, and it literally can't distinguish between its "own" memories and those being pulled from the memories of the other?
What happens as people around the person start to notice changes? Not even gendered changes, but like, imagine sitting down for a family meal and your favorite food is actually repulsive to the other inhabitant of the body. How does everyone involve navigate experiences like that, where they thought they "knew" someone but now they don't.
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>>43202369
I don't have much writing experience so probably bad but I might try anyway

>>43202467
>Also, since you're talking about some kind of co-habitation in one body
It won't play out that way, since the spirit is basically dormant or inactive, it will only be consciously present a handful of times ever in the story. It will just be the main character's perspective most of the time. I deliberately don't want 'two souls in the same body' to overshadow the guy who is trying to be a hero is also becoming a woman aspect
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>>43202676
Good thing about writing is that good is largely relative. Either you'll stumble on gold and write something that connects with people or you won't and you can chalk it up as practice.
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>>43202153
Ranma was like this but it didn't prevent it from giving an entire generation of kids bad thoughts that eventually turned into AGP/AGAMP and now we're alone and we will die alone
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>>43202201
unironically yes
just be tasteful about it
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>>43202787
Ranma was my first real anime that I watched as a kid and to this day it's still my favorite, but I got into it because I had pre-existing tranny thoughts not the other way around.
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>>43202153
I don't think you can avoid potential sexual connotations with transformations like these, especially ones that are directly tied to one's sexual characteristics.
It would make sense if maybe he took on the mental characteristics of a woman and had more of a change in instincts and energy from man to woman.
Physical changes? It would be hard to not acknowledge these things without it sounding a bit sexual, like if his chest and nipples were starting to feel tight, sore, and swollen from growing breasts, or that his clothes or armor are starting to feel uncomfortable due to anatomical changes.
It's a slippery slope, but I get what you're going for. Maybe it would help if he wasn't enjoying it but not fixating on the body horror aspect?
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>>43203255
Its probably fine if its just a little sexual sometimes



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