Why are so many trans people autistic? Is it just social contagion/ internet addiction mixed with lack of social awareness and concrete sense of identity? I don’t believe in the natal development theory because there is not sufficient evidence of meaningful sexual dimorphism between men and women’s brains and the tests of the differences between cis and teans brains have yielded inconsistent brain differences despite general deviation from “cis” brains
I genuinely do not think it is a social contagion. I am an autistic tranny. I am a pretty good test case for this. I grew up in a very restrictive southern baptist household. I had gender dysphoria before I even knew trannies exist.I really wish it were a social contagion because then I could talk myself out of it.
>>43210995There definitely are people who just happen to be both but when I see an autistic weeb gamer turn into a discord/ reddit larp of femininity I imagine only someone severely autistic could try that
>>43210982autists are extremely gullible and have a weak identity
>>43210982brains dopamine reward system is all kinds of screwy.
>>43211016i feel like thats one of the strongest parts of my identity is knowing that i dont want to be a guy. i would not be able to go through all of this if that part of me wasn't so strong and i was almost diagnosed with autism.
>cant play sports because of autismi guess im a girl hehe
>>43210982hormone signaling errors in the same stages of development
>>43211052it became part of ur identity bc you are easily manipulated due to autism. once it became set in your brain you could not be convinced otherwise due to autistic black and white thinking
autism is just ridiculously overdiagnosed and given as a label to anyone who does not fit in well
>>43211146based. weirdness and social awkwardness should be pathologized
>>43211190Everything should be pathologized. Consciousness is a mental disease.
>>43211213this but unironically
>>43210982there's no autism gene so autism isn't real o algo
>>43211098Any evidence for this?
>>43211146>>43211190>>43211213The trendy autism shit is very new.Even looking back 10 years ago, if you implied even just a *little* that you might be on the spectrum, people would treat you like you had down's, or that you're incompetent and childlike, etc. (basically autism = incredibly mentally handicapped and retarded 24/7)Everything that you did would be put in the "autism box", you were not a person but just autism. It wasn't cool, it was embarrassing to just exist in this world as yourself.Now people assume autism = eccentric quirky genius and treat it like how ADHD has been treated the entire time, where the person in question was just someone with ADHD and not a retard with autism.
>>43210982incompatibility with rigid, standardized social performance
>>43210982Because the thing that causes transgenderism, hormonal disruption in the third trimester, also causes autism.
>>43210982social contagion has loaded connotations, but sure yeah thatd track. my personal geuss is its bc autism is a stumbling mass of a diagnosis generally encompassing social defects and or their causes. trans people have social defects at a higher rate bc we were socialized later on average. also, troons seem less likely or less able to mask for some reason
>>43212164also this. autism has a social gravity now it did not have before.
>>43212164>>43212902>>43212922It’s not about social contagion or any of that nonsense, it’s about people finally getting diagnosed after years of being told to mask better. When I was growing up in the 90s the solution to L1 and L2 autism was the same as the solution to trannyism, they just let the other kids bully it out of you.
>>43210982Gender dysphoria is a facet of a certain complex of dysgenia that appears to also involve frequent comorbidity with connective tissue disorders and autism/ADHD/dyslexia
>>43213965don't forget the bowel disease
>>43210982if you would please consult the one good thread we had on this topic
>>43213965my whole life (especially when i was an infant/toddler) people noticed how stretchy my skin was. then long after i trooned out, i learned that stretchy skin is correlated with being trans.i suspect it's something that happens in utero, some process as sex differentiation takes place that for whatever reason affects the genes of both androgen sensitivity and connective tissue development. some kind of biological proximity or epigenitically crossed wires to the SRY gene in the male fetus or something.
>>43211884>>43214074>>43212164>>43213936it really is staggering the will to ignorance most people have. youd think theyd figure a genetic condition isnt something you can just bully out.
>>43210982It's more accurate to say that autists are more susceptible in general to a lot of things but there's not a strict causal link between autists and GD. It could play a part though.
>>43212164>>43212922i actually recently suggested to my gen x mother that she might have autism and she screamed at me for it. there really is no hope for those who cant adapt to the new world of depthologised difference.
>>43214120>>43214074please do some reading before voicing an opinion
>>43214127It's not an opinion anon
>>43210982IT'S GENETIC.GEN ET IC. Why do you think they both have weird joint issues all the time?
>>43214074Pseudoscience, fits well with board culture though.
>>43214157So Elon's autism genes are the reason he has a trans kid?And he blames everybody, but himself. Be a damn good father and own who you are and who she is. And if you think being trans or autistic sucks then STOP IMPREGNATING EVERYTHING
>>43210982Many trans aren't autistic. Most autists aren't trans. There's some correlation, not nearly enough to establish a causal link. The most you could say is that, in a multifactorial approach, autism could be one contributing factor to some types of GD. But when I say types I don't mean Blanchardism which is retarded btw, sorry.
>>43214162>everything i dont like is pseudhow about you actually read the papers you illiterate faggot
>>43214185I don't think anyone wants to read your poorly composed essay dude.
>>43210982fairly known to be just correlation atp
>>43214197you can say that all you like but the original thread was up for a week. maybe its just a you thing. maybe youre a dimwit.
>>43214217Someone's feelings got hurt haha
>>43210982Google it dummy
>>43214254they sure did, i imagine things are pretty rough that way when youre habituated to not reading things
>>43214259>>43214254Stop flirting in my thread niggers
>>43214264i dont fuck dogs
>>43214074i really hope you didn't write this slop. just use ai next time tbhon
>>43214273i dont really need to say anything to that desu
Autists have less social awareness and won't repress as much is the prevailing theory but honestly it's just a mild correlation and people meme it into being a bigger deal than it ever was
>>43214074>entirely based on Blanchardism>many claims with no evidence>cherry-picked studies completely misrepresented and misunderstoodthis is why i come here, it's awesome
>>43214303>i didnt actually read the post let alone the studies cited
>>43214303>>43214273>>43214197Pls be nice to blog post anon
>>43214325they can be mean if they like, as long as they actually read
>>43214336I read it. I guess it's an effort post. I didn't find it convincing or anything for reasons I think others have already touched on. I hope you do more research and refine it if you feel that strongly about it, otherwise it's cool you put forth the effort at least.
>>43210982whatever neurological developments lead to autism may be comorbid with the neurological developments leading to tranny brainautists seem more likely to transition because they are less susceptible to the pressures of society and judgment of others, so they pursue what they think will make them happy
>>43214344if youve read the post but not the studies (you havent, it takes longer than that) then you havent actually read the post.
>>43214325i am opposed to samefagging, and screenshotting your own post and spamming it is like super saiyamfagging
>>43214366you likely started using this board sometime between 2-6 years ago
>>43214366>>43214368apologies, i meant this site
>>43214368you forgot to cite your sources!!
>>43214374my sources are the spirits in the ether
>>43214283My experience was the opposite. I learned how to mask early on, and it didn’t really matter what I was masking as, it was all pretend anywho. I thought that’s what everyone was doing and didn’t understand why I was struggling so much. Now I understand what was really going on and I only mask as I choose now.
>>43214493Good masking is fembrained apparently Makes me wonder more about myself too
>>43210982Dr Powers says, based on his own patient demographics and supported by data elswehere, transgenderism has STRONG comorbidity with: Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) and ADHDConnective tissue disorders (hEDS)Autoimmune issues/MCAS (Mast Cell Activation Syndrome)GI issues (GERD, IBS)Dysautonomia/POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome)Thyroid problems (Hashimoto's)Chronic Fatigue/Insomnia
>>43214500not who you were replying to but the whole "boys dont get taught to mask" thing was a complete shock to me. like wdym you dont get taught to mask? how?
>>43214555bullying is how you get taught to mask, results vary
>>43214579That + mimicking other people as a younger kid and testing what worked
>>43214579yes but like, it doesnt even have to be overt. most of my actual masking motivation as a kid was from softer signals of disapproval i picked up on and adjusting myself to be whatever i thought they wanted. like, i dont understand not thinking like that as a young autistic male.
>>43214610It depends on severity and upbringing, I had an autistic cis girl in high school class and she was Chris-chan tier
>>43210982>I don’t believe in the natal development theory because there is not sufficient evidence of meaningful sexual dimorphism between men and women’s brains and the tests of the differences between cis and teans brains have yielded inconsistent brain differences despite general deviation from “cis” brainsFeminazi or retard?
>>43211119>waah autism heckin bad gullible stoopid uh bad!! Anything that disagrees with my ideology fake and bad !!!Normiegoyim have gone insane
>>43214610>>43214636My upbringing was the cure to autism was masking harder. Both my parents still pull this shit.
>>43214555nobody ever made me mask. nobody even insinuated I might be autistic despite massive eye contact avoidance, stimming and lack of social skills. I was never bullied, but I never had any friends. who would I mask for? my parents? they never let on that the way I acted was unusual. boys are just allowed to be weird.
>>43214309No one here is gonna read a bunch of studies and you're stupid for expecting them to
>>43216887When I'm not alone at home, I mask 50%+ pretty much always and have been doing so for about two decades now. I need 10-14 hours of sleep every day.
>>43217113I guess that explains why I sleep 9 hours a day lol.
>>43216887youre aware that there are studies showing people unconsciously pick up on autistics very consistently within 2-400 milliseconds, right?>>43217094and yet people did, its just you that wont
>>43217503WELL NOBODY FUCKING TOLD ME NOBODY TOLD ME THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG I JUST THOUGHT I WAS UNLIKEABLE AND I PROBABLY AM I FUCKING HATE SOCIETYit took until I was 16 and my bf complained that I never made eye contact with him and that I was shaking the car by fucking stimming like a stupid autist for me to know anything was wrong so basically I wasted my whole childhood
>>43217657>basically I wasted my whole childhoodHow? How would it help you to know you're autistic?
>>43210982As a non autistic gay boy, I think its the fact that they're trans
>>43217759once I got diagnosed I understood why I was the way I was and learned to mask better and find situations that are easier to exist in. Also I could've had therapy as a kid to help.
>>43217806I am autistic and I have no use for a diagnosis. I just always masked as good as I could. It's easy to pick up that people hate weirdness.
>>43217827>It's easy to pick up that people hate weirdness.I never picked up on that at all. It always just felt like people didn't connect with me and I didnt know what to do to make them want to be around me. I still wish I wasn't diagnosed officially because It got me dqd at MEPS.
>>43217657my sympathies. i will say though that it doesnt get better with age.
I am 100% normalSorry that you're all retarded
>>43216887I was very effectively bullied, so I learned how to normie up somewhat. Still have effects on my behavior, and massive effects on my life trajectory (1-3 decades behind normies) in generalYMMV
>>43212164To be fair most autists are not people.whose company you'd enjoy.A real sped ed autist would look at a tranny and very rudely question the idea of gender transition bc their thinking is rigid and they have like 80.IQ.When people online say autism they mean aspergers which is just = weird + bad with people(which is everyone in the 21st century.)
