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Is there even a single advantage of being an AMAB?
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The most notable benefits I've personally experienced are that people assume I am competent in professional contexts and I am safe and unbothered by strangers basically anywhere I go.
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>>43211980
Probably but we’re trannies so of course our judgement on being a man is always going to be negative since it feels like torture
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the only possible thing i can think of would be not having to deal with misogyny, but that only applys to cis guys and us pre-trasition trans girls
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Yes if you're cis no if you're trans
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>>43211980
I can just walk around without being noticed or harassed
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>>43211980
goddam i never actually knew his name. bro has a name like a magistrate
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>>43211980
>stronger
>faster
>greater lung capacity
>less pain receptors
>greater bone density
>functional reproductive system not dependent on pissing blood 1/4 of the time
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Could trooning have saved the chudshooter?
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>>43211980
Plenty as long as you can play the game, otherwise you stop benefitting
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It’s ok but there aren’t any advantages when compared to being female
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>>43212974
there are plenty of disadvantages to being a woman, like being retarded and shitting blood every few weeks
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Having a penis
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>>43212789
How does any of that help you in daily life
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>>43211980
moids are better looking overall and age better. it's only because of makeup that the vast majority of foids are seen as "attractive". most of them look like blobs without makeup.
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>>43213189
Maybe age better but not better looking on average
I see so many women daily that look like they could make a killing off OF
The amount of men I see that look good/hot is staggeringly low
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>>43213290
have these men you're seeing been cultivating their appearance for decades? unlikely, most guys will scrub their faces with bar soap and call it a day
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>>43211980
Looksmatched
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>>43213129
>lift and carry more
>get places faster
>feel less pain
>break less bones
>don't piss blood
What aren't you getting?
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>>43211980
they have one trait that mogs nearly everything else in this life: a better sense of humor
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>>43213421
We live in a world where none of this is relevant the majority of the time. Maybe if we lived in ancient tribes
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>>43213421
Being able to lift more and pain reduction is only useful if you’re contracting your body away to become a physical labor slave, and travel is almost entirely done through vehicles now. If anything being stronger is almost a detriment, since you’re expected to break your back to avoid being homeless.
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I used to really really want to be a man and to be assigned male at birth, when I was a young teenager. But now that im maturing into a young adult I do indeed see that being afab may have some upsides, and have taken off the rose colored glasses
Do still very much wish I could be a handsome big dick chad instead of a woman but its alright
I dont know if I count as a pooner or not but I take hrt
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>>43213527
>Maybe if we lived in ancient tribes
You will soon
>>43213537
All of this comes up very frequently for me because I'm not alienated from my body and the outside world six inches from a screen most of the time like the majority of channies, don't work manual labor either. Not that there's anything wrong with being female. I'm glad that there's a gender that exists solely to look pretty and raise babies, because I am a heterosexual man
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>>43211980
>stronk
no there really isn't nowadays
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>>43213129
Periods can cause suicidal depression even outside of a dysphoria context and can be debilitating physically
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>>43213574
Sure, being a man is better when you are top 20% handsome big dick chad, but if not, being a woman is better.
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>>43212801
Yes.
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>>43211980
gock
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>>43213537
> travel is almost entirely done through vehicles now
this point but for everything
any physical advantages of either sexes is pointless because sooner or later humans will come up with some machine that’ll make them obsolete
men had more value when they were the strongest intelligent force in the world, but now that position can be occupied by anyone in control of a gun (or drones as seem in ukraine vs russia, ykwim)
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>>43211980
Size
Strength
Toughness
Faster recovery from injury
Reflexes
Intelligence
Eyesight
Accuiuty
Strategic thinking

And that's before you get into the social stuff based on the propensity and efficiency at violence.
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If you want to succeed in life based on your own merits, live free and pull ahead, carve your own path, be competitive etc. Being a man is superior in nearly every aspect.
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>>43215885
tech already made most of that obsolete
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What the men copers have to say about the 80% of suicides being moids?
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>>43215976
same thing foid apologists say about 90% of suicide "attempts" being women
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>>43215885
>Accuiuty
the ironing
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>>43216012
Idk what they say -_-
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>>43211980
why is bro doing reneface
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>>43211980
Three major benefits:
1. a higher capacity for intelligence due to the effects of testosterone 2. option to have children late in life after one's career goals and personal dreams are fulfilled, with a much younger woman at that. 3. dementia is less prevalent in men by a considerable margin independent of lifespan.

In the lottery of life:
talented or smart man >>>> attractive woman >>>> regular woman >>>> regular man

If you possess keen intelligence, or talent as a man (and aren't too socially retarded) you are at the top of the food chain.
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>>43215849
men invent machines to replace themselves
ai finally replaced the need for intelligent men
>>43215885
>>43216216
intelligence is cope the only thing its good for is repping mental gymnastics
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>>43216291
if you were intelligent you'd understand the benefits, but alas...
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>>43216216
Most intelligent men end up working boring corporate slop with no real perspectives of making it big
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>>43216322
Such a black and white way of thinking, Corporate slop that lets you work from home, pays the bills, and for vacations, is about 99% better than what humans have had throughout history, A clever man who is middle aged will know how to leverage that for an early retirement,
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So thus far, we agree men's "advantages" are
>being socially invisible (double-edged sword)
>having an easy time surviving in the woods
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>>43217021
It's because most of this board is young, they don't know at 40 most people are still only about halway thru their lives. When existential angst settles in, and the beauty of women fades, it's an entirely different ball game.
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>>43217052
The idea that life magically gets better for men when they're middle aged is just... lol. Suicide rates go brrr.
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>>43217052
What exactly gets better for ugly old men compared to ugly old women? By then the women will be married and have never needed to work a day in their lives.
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>>43213002
I'm already retarded, I wish I could shitblood
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>>43217080
It's not that it gets magically better, it's that as a man with resources life is MUCH better compared to a woman with the same. I do agree regular men are sadly at the lowest rung of the ladder.
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>>43213002
Being retarded is better in the modern world.
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Trannies cannot understand anyone being comfortable in their own skin because they have no theory of mind.
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>I think about being a man or woman in terms of advantages I can gain
>gender is definitely real and innate
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>>43217106
What resources?
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>>43217120
Are you retarded? Cis men like myself agree being a man is a huge disadvantage in the west. It's just plainly obvious given the endless opportunities women have that men don't.
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>>43211980
You get a wooden sailing ship. You do end up losing it in pursuit of your obsessive desire to slay the white whale and come to terms with your latent homosexuality though. So I guess that’s net neutral
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>>43217174
For example?
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>>43217174
It's also an advantage if you have Internet access in the third world. An Indian woman could just marry an American man and her QoL here would be much higher.
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>>43217183
Women have literally endless dating options no matter how ugly/fat/mentally ill they are. Men are endlessly willing to provide for women. Combining these two facts, women never have to work a day in their lives. There are some exceptions with unbelievable deformities, but for almost all women, the most unpleasant part of life, work, is unnecessary, and being loved is just a matter of looking around for a bit.
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>>43217207
> Men are endlessly willing to provide for women
this is the main problem, men being nearly complete pussyslaves foidcattle
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>>43217207
>>43217261
sry wrong quote, should be
> Women have literally endless dating options no matter how ugly/fat/mentally ill they are
actually it’s both
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>>43217261
>>43217278
It's self-reinforcing. If 5% of men changed from worshiping pussy to demanding the pussy has some semblance of quality, that leaves the door open for the other men to worship pussy more to get a crumb of pussy. It won't change in the west for many, many decades.
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The woman's world is one of fleeting potential- any good things she has are inherent qualities her actions can worsen but very rarely improve. A young woman is near-universally desired, but however strong this desire, it is infamously shallow, and is forgotten as soon as the woman loses her looks or a prettier woman steals the scene. An education might make her pleasanter company but not more desirable, and the appeal of a rich woman is really two separate lusts bundled together (vs. the appeal of a self-made rich man to women: he DID something and would have value even if he lost everything and had to start over). Hence why women are so keen to sabotage one another compared to men- there is nowhere to go but down, and they know it. When a woman with any technical ability appears, she's paraded around like this is a great novelty- a damning indictment of the sex, since from men it's just expected. And while a man's powers are obvious and self-contained, a woman's are meaningless without social context, which in this day and age can change quickly and ruthlessly; his strength and smarts can be measured, but she needs constant reinforcement that she looks good, is on the right path, etc. and without getting that from others she is hopelessly adrift.
If people treat women well it's because they want something in return, or are at least subconsciously reminded of a situation where they would. There's also that a woman is basically prey, and prey can never truly relax.
To summarize, as a man:
>you can always trust your good same-sex friends; women can't ever really trust theirs
>you can focus on and achieve things in whatever technical field you like more effectively than women
>you can speak your mind and be honest about things because you're smart enough to know and strong enough to defend it
Women are flowers and men are trees. Sure, on a stroll most people will sooner compliment the pretty flowers, but in the end every individual flower will be forgotten.
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>>43217261 >>43217305
consequence of not having wars and other retarded shit that used to kill excess men, a man has time to worship only so many pussies but if theres lots of men its easy for women
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>>43217315
The amount you dorks think and write about this stuff is wild
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>>43217341
Shut up troglodyte if it was up to people like you we'd still be in the stone age
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>>43217362
Uh-oh, touched a nerve! :D
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>>43217341
Sorry honey, when it comes to why men are better than women there's just so much to say.
Let's rephrase. Suppose each human soul had a chance to choose a sex for itself. What sort of person would choose F? Someone:
>lazy ("I'll attract a good worker instead of working")
>unambitious ("security is always preferable to freedom")
>tasteless ("whatever works for others is surely fine for me")
>superficial ("they need to love me the moment they see me, or I'm worthless")
>duplicitous ("I'm just not strong enough to take that kind of risk")
The mere fact that men on average have it harder is also what makes men better and more interesting people than most women: a woman can just be a woman, a man has to be Something. Even the men who fail miserably are at least interesting cases to study. This is a generalization and some brilliant and wonderful people happen to have been women, but they're obviously exceptions, and most of them are ugly or autistic and would have preferred to be men.
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>>43211980
You get to rape women. Another one is you can pretend to be a woman while having a cock and agp fetish and not suffer from having a vagina
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>>43217315
good post mr schopenhauer
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>>43217315
>>43217466
copers like this is what makes me think men are the inferior sex
if men are so great, why most of them are foidcattle?
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>>43217330
look at this retard
men would literally kill each other for pussy
it’s hard not to think that there is something very wrong with this gender
holy shit
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>>43217330
excess men should gaymaxx or transition not die in wars
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Gays stay winning.
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>>43217478
>not suffer from having a vagina
What is the suffering of having a vagina?
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>>43217466
Oh lol I’m not actually reading your posts. It’s just funny seeing you guys write walls of text about women being icky and not liking you or whatever
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>>43217466
Being female isn't an ideology retard. And your framing is conceited as fuck, women don't even want men who love them at first sight it's annoying and your last point doesn't even make sense.
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>>43217305
yeah I can see that, it’s economics
do you think that will ever change? there’s so much momentum it seems impossible, though I guess there’s these stats of 50% young men never having approached a woman
even then, doesn’t help that testosterone makes the worshipping seemly innate
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>>43211980
i can immediately think of 3
>having a cock is hot
>being tall is hot
>tgirl swag
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>>43217330
>>43217560
what about excess women?
oh yeah that isn’t a thing, because men are millions of sperms while women are a single egg
i wonder about the gender ratio of newborns when parents get to choose the sex before birth
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>>43211980
Yes, look at vidrel and contemplate how every vag-haver live with a permanent chastity cage
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>>43217516
>>43217522
>>43217580
So many posts, not one argument, only attempts to drag down, distract, gum up the works. You prove all my points and more. Thank you.

>>43217581
Thanks for at least trying, although you clearly misunderstood some things. I won't judge you as harshly for this failure as I would a man; after all, there's only so much one can expect.

I don't even hate women, not any more than I have to at any rate. In a better world, men and women would naturally cooperate and 90% of these sorts of arguments would disappear overnight. But that's not the world I live in, and probably not the one you live in; m/f relations were deliberately sabotaged along with so much else, and propaganda has blurred what should be natural wisdom.
Boy am I glad to be bi and have the option for m/m romance; my husband is someone I can have a real conversation with. As if it wasn't enough that he's strong and talented and funny! I hope you anons ITT can find such happiness.
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>>43215885
>Strategic thinking
wrong af. moidkind is fettered by moid emotions to be good at it.
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>>43217315
>>43217466
it do be like that for those that don't work on the other actual strengths of their feeeemale foid roastoid gender: kindness, empathy, higher average need for beauty, cleanliness and comfort (if raised well), the gender roles and inner qualities that result in them more often playing a larger role in keeping the tribe well socially lubricated, and bringing warmth to an otherwise cold and uncaring world. This is why they work best when complemented by well raised men, to bring a balance to each other's qualities, and to help everyone in the flock live the most fulfilled and useful life for the individual and greater good.
also jew feminist techbro algorithm kremlin chinkoids sow division and cause gender wars, don't let them win
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>>43217847
that’s a point, but your first post is pure retardation, what’d you expect??
>>43217466
> a woman can just be a woman, a man has to be Something. Even the men who fail miserably are at least interesting cases to study
doesn’t that makes women freer than men? a woman can still “be something” if she wants
your flower vs tree comparison doesn’t feel right, wouldn’t cat vs tiger make more sense?
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>>43211980
i think he's cute nowadays
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>>43217847
hey i was agreeing with you without ironing
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>>43217947
>doesn’t that makes women freer than men?
Here I'll admit I got a bit too bold- the male and female are in most ways dark mirrors of each other, with many stereotypical traits or conditions of one having a sort of inverse in the other, and "freedom" is one of those. Men are freer in some areas and more restricted in others, and one could spend all day trying to lay out the specifics.
>a woman can still “be something” if she wants
In practice, they seem to end up overwhelmingly in one of the same few familiar roles, though, discounting MTFs who are fundamentally dissimilar and are not actually feminine at all (not necessarily a problem...). For some of this you can no doubt blame men in some way (do you know any women who wanted to run a comfy YT channel about history or whatever, only to quit after finding every third comment was an 80 IQ man's public, upvoted leer? I do!), or female sabotage, or simply the way women and men are wired, which itself could just be the stamped-down memories of generations of men's brutality and women's sabotage. And the mirror of those horrors is the obvious crippling misery everyone ITT knows most men feel every day. But at least the latter suffering is more likely to lead to great art or heroic acts, at least as my (male) mind can recognize them.

I apologize for being needlessly harsh toward women in general in my previous post; blame the feminist harpy who raised me and who conscripted me into the gender war in the womb. My man's Catholic mother is a wonderful, caring woman, and I resent not having had such a one for myself. Oh well, I just need to man up! and get over it, am I right?
Picrel is a novelist whose work I've fallen in love with recently- if you don't mind reading even more words, she had a genius for identifying these male-female differences and using them in dramatic and beautiful ways. She's also funny, stylish, and imaginative; I can't recommend her books enough.
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>>43218205
but when it comes to the individual, women just have more freedom period, at least in the grand scheme of things
as a technologist species, anything we can’t do can eventually be done with tech. you can’t disagree that women need men less and less as the years go by, nor that men get more and more replaceable the closer intelligent robots come to reality
meanwhile the anons points above are true at least for most men: most men are slaves to pussy and women in general, with little to no standards, being essentially foidcattle. every society ever treated its women as the most important gender, and let’s not forget the gender roles: women can do anything, men have almost endless restrictions
my point is that men seem to be losing their value since the caveman times, while women aren’t losing value at the same rate, if at all
about woman not choosing more, isn’t that the same case of Dolph Lundgren? a super smart guy who preferred to be an artist than curing cancer or something. if humans can have the nice things for free, they’ll choose them over building something nice
my example about cats vs tigers is that like women, cats have an essentially endless amount of people willing to care for them and happily so, while tigers, seemingly better than cats in every way, are own their own. like women, cats mostly have easier lives full of abundance and love, while a tiger will just die if he isn’t capable enough
also, the 80% suicide rate being men has to mean something, don’t you think?
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>>43213537
Every "advantage" of being AMAB is like this. It's all just meaningless junk that doesn't make any real difference in your life. There are only disadvantages to being AMAB.
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>>43217548
yeah i didn't argue otherwise, it's just that men are even more retarded when there's a lot of them
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>>43218205
> MTFs who are fundamentally dissimilar and are not actually feminine at all
why not actually feminine? wdym by that?



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