pseudo-dysphoria is a concept that pops up every now and again here
but generally it doesn't matter where dysphoric feelings come from, if you have em, you gotta deal with em

>>43211992
I don't understand why anyone would want to be like this

>>43211992
Might be a form of asonognosia

>>43211992
happens all the time. people get into these online communities and become convinced of things they don’t really understand. they can’t actually see themselves

>>43211992
dysphoria is my life like yes i can feel like i'm lying to myself about having dysphoria too because the entire way i process the world is this way and it's impossible for me to process it any other way so when someone says that my experience is dysphoria i can just pretend it isn't.
i think if you didn't actually have what people call dysphoria then you wouldn't relate with others who have it and others who have it wouldn't relate with you.
like when i first discovered this board when i was a teenager and read about all the others' experiences growing up, and anywhere hear about other trans people's experiences, it's too relateble to chalk off as a coincidence. there is actually definitely some biological thing going on. a good amount of gays across time and space are like this too. getting clocked randomly throughout my life, always people assuming i'm gay, is another sign.

so all this is to say you can lie to yourself about labeling it as dysphoria but if you have what is labeled that, you probably know it. and if you don't, you probably know you're faking it. but is it a big deal? no. none of this actually frigging matters at all.

>>43211992
i'm not sure thats a thing. the only form of pseudo dysphoria i could even possibly conceive of would be someone who has actual compulsive obsessive disorder wondering if they could be trans or not. once u look into it and if thats not ur experience, then u might just have to accept ur a troon :/

>>43212063
(im replying to kyself)
if you think you are lying to yourself about NOT having dysphoria, you probably have dysphoria
if you think you are lying to yourself about having dysphoria, you probably DONT have dysphoria
even though you said you the 2nd part, you sound like the first group which is why it sounds like you are genuinely lying to yourself about NOT having it. good luck!

>>43212070
how would TOCD be? lets say 2 people:
1 with authentic trans identity and gender dysphoria
another with TOCD
they both start puberty. they both feel distress about the changes.
person 1 (GD) is because they are trans.
person 2 could be for any other reason, like being resistant to change, maybe the changes are negative to their idealized view but its not because of gender dysphoria, it could be BDD.

but then lets say theres person 3 who comes along and feels distress about their puberty.
they see person 1 transition and person 2 doesnt transition.
they can then convince themselves theyre just like person 1 if they transition, or person 2 if they dont.

>>43211992
yes
>>43212005
this happened to me

I think the cause of trans has not been found yet. It kinda must be physiological as that anon said and we try to make it a psychological thing.
It's like if three people with stuffy noses came to a shrink and explained to them that they always have this weird feeling that they should really be a 'normal breather' and then the shrink starts affirming that 'identity as a normal breather'. It will surely help the patients somewhat, but the better option is to give them an aspirine, maybe some antibiotics and tell them to sleep a lot and take it slow in the next few days.
Sorry for rambling, what I'm saying is
>Take your HRT, retard

i doubt you can convince yourself to have dysphoria, for me when i was diagnosed with bpd i continuously convinced myself that i didn’t have it and i had pseudo-bpd instead. its all cope you probably have it

I unironically only get mild disphoria when i come to /lgbt/, otherwise on my day to day life i feel honestly fine lmao

>>43212838
same but this has lead me to hang out here constantly to justify my estrogen abuse

>>43212845
Why the fuck would you even start E and fuck up your hormones if your disphoria is that mild?

>>43212867
I'm a punk

also
>fucking up your hormones is not a thing
if you inject e, you get the effects of e. they are pretty well described and it's up to you to decide if you want them or not.
it's not magic

>>43212881
? Pretty sure thats not what being punk is but alright

>>43212911
idc desu

>>43211992
depends what you mean
if hormones are involved no, that's a matter of biology, no amount of belief will change neurological sex
if you aren't taking hrt, yes you can absolutely meme yourself into dysphoria

>>43212953
>if hormones are involved no, that's a matter of biology, no amount of belief will change neurological sex
I genuinely do not understand what you’re trying to say.

>>43212906
it is magic though

>>43212953
That's bs. I gaslight myself into taking hormones. Neurological sex is a spook

>>43212867
I did it because I am a lesbian and the thought of participating in a heterosexual relationship sickened me

>>43215153
I just don't think you're accurately assessing yourself when you say this because you would feel like shit from reverse dysphoria if you were actually correct here

>>43215341
I literally feel no difference on or off hrt. Reverse dysphoria is a myth

>>43215364
are you autistic?

>>43212124
I get your point but I I feel like I’m both lying to myself about dysphoria AND lying about the lying. The time Line and context for my symptoms just don’t make much sense.
The dysphoria itself feels fake and while I can relate to some experiences of other trannies, I don’t really relate to a lot of the seemingly important experiences about of other trannies seem to have. Plus, I have many experiences that just kinda seem impossible for a Transsex person and only applicable to a Cissy.

If it helps, I liken body dysphoria over a part that feels like it shouldn't be there to the feeling you get when you experience body horror in fiction, find a visible tumor or abscess on your body, or find a visible parasite attached to you. A visceral and distressing feeling of wrongness and violation of your body. A feeling that doesn't entirely go away until the threat has been removed. It may be ignored but a baseline level of wrongness will always be there while the "threat" remains. And interacting with that part will cause a spike in the feelings so it is better to cope in ways that hide the part from view and limit it's movement so you can further ignore it until you can have it surgically removed. This is why tucking and binding is taken more seriously by dysphorics than nondysphorics, it's self treating a medical symptom rather than being for self expression of our gender.

It's also interesting to note that there is also a phenomenon of hormone based chemical depression the same way there is in cis people. Guys with low t or high e can feel depressed, and the same goes with trans men, and trans women feel the opposite where a male hormonal profile depresses them. In my case antidepressants did not solve this but hormones did and I was able to quit antidepressants.

>>43212326
Environmental conditions in the womb affect brain development in a way that sometimes results in being gay, being gnc, being transgender (social identity), or being transsexual (requiring medical transition), or all of the above or any combination. There are multiple causes but they appear to work the same. Some of us just failed the dice roll, lmao.