Does anyone else just not care that the zoomies are listening to this guy? I swear half of his audience at this point is breadtubers looking for their next panic attack anyway. And the breadtubers are all the lamest fucking normies, I was watching one guy this morning tell me that I should listen to his opinion on gamergate because he played tony hawk pretty hard in the 00s. Like serious, I can't go into nerd spaces any more because I'm trans and all the autists are on high alert after a decade of having all their favorite toys smashed by retarded left wing politics, and retarded left wing politics answer to that is to pretend like Andrew fucking Tate is the problem.
>>43214849My mum works in schooling for children and the boys for a while were apparently routinely telling the girls they are low value whores and lesser so I do kind of give a fuck
most zoomer men think tate is a clown or don't take him seriously. they are very misogynistic though cause gen z women are trasht. zoomer man
>>43214856>boys beat other boys - I sleep>boys call girls a bad word - real shit
>>43214871There’s a difference between roughhousing and bullying
>>43214868Actually it’s Gen Z men, you breathing is perpetuating rape culture!
>>43214875Yes, when the second class citizens get hurt then it's just roughing up, when the first class citizens are inconvenienced then it's terrible bullying and a very serious social issueI know the song and dance, spare me
>>43214856>High school boys aren't forming healthy relationships with their sexuality and with girls>It's not the teacher's fault, it's some bald cunt on youtubeThis guy must be Jesus the way he's taking on the sins of the world.
>>43214889It’s both their faultThe school system being ass and broader society doesnt encourage healthy relationships between men and womenSome bald cunt takes advantage of that gap in the market to spew his shitThe school system has no defence against it because it’s a fundamentally broken system
>>43214898>Some bald cunt takes advantage of that gap in the market to spew his shitThat's a symptom, not a cause. But you literally held your mother up as Andrew Tate's victim instead of ackowledging that the system that your mother is perpetuating. Your mother is in a position to teach those boys a healthy sexuality, when she fails grifters step into that void, and she wants to blame the grifters for her failure. The real victim is me, because I'm the one trying to date these broken fucking guys who come out of a school system that has taught them nothing but shame and humiliation for being born wrong. As a transgender and autistic woman I gotta say blaming boys for being born wrong doesn't really work for me.
>>43214849I dont even know who tate is really, ive never seen him. People seem too invested in hating him given that he has no influence. evidence being ive never seen him>>43214856Lmao, its probably true though
>>43214917My mother wasn't a victim to it lolShe’s a teachers assistant who sees it happen to little girls, the moment a woman in an authority position appears the little shits straighten out And I think you severely underestimate the effect that one woman has in an non-administrative role vs broader teaching reform
>>43214930>a woman in an authority position appears the little shits straighten outThat sounds like gynophobia. Those boys are going to be increasingly anxious and distrustful of any woman with power over them the rest of their lives. But hey at least your mum gets a nice self-esteem boost for literally bullying teenagers. >And I think you severely underestimate the effect that one woman has in an non-administrative roleShe has a lot more effect on the lives of those boys than Andrew fucking Tate. I'm not asking her to save the world, I'm asking you to recognize her role in those boys at your mum's school calling girls "low value whores.".
>>43214965We’re talking about 5-9 year olds anon.Also wild statement, would you say that men being in authority positions would traumatise boys?She literally just works at a school and tells the boys thats not nice and why they believe the things they do, she teaches reading, not child psychology
literally no one cares about Tate anymore, your like a year behind in the outrage cycle. Everyone that was laughing and seething at Tate is laughing at clavicular now.
>>43214983>We’re talking about 5-9 year olds anon.OMG that's SO much better. They haven't even gone through puberty and the only thing your mum has taught them about the opposite is fear! >She literally just works at a school and tells the boys thats not nice and why they believe the things they doThat's not what you said tho was it. What you said was "lol, these boys straighten the fuck out when they get properly bullied by a woman". What sort of husbands and fathers are those little boys going to be in 20 years? Because beyond anything else that's what we REALLY need them to do. And as someone who is trying to date the 5-9 year olds from 20 years ago, I gotta say I'm not super impressed with the job the teachers did, and I'm yet to hear a single mea culpa on that. Andrew Tate doesn't really come into it. >>43214987The breadtubers are still hung up on it.
>>43215031In my defence anon I didn’t think you’d look for ways to interpret everything I said in the most yikes way My whole point is that young boys became more misogynistic in the Andrew Tate era and the school system wasnt well equipped to combat it
>>43215042Yeah my point is really that you're not recognizing the yikes in all of this. Like I said I'm actual the victim here, because I'm the one who has to make steak out of this dog's breakfast. All of these broken guys in my DMs, there's fucking millions of them. That is NOT andrew tate's fault. Andrew Tate didn't break them, Andrew Tate just exploited them once they were already broken. Teachers broke them. Not the system, the system has no way to act except through people, it was teachers that filled my inbox with incels.
>>43215093Talking as if I too don’t have to deal with menThere can be no universal approach to child socialisation without broad reform, one school will not fix the world and you’ll still get the same people in your DMs unless a structural change is implemented
>>43214889>It's not the teacher's faultwhat did he mean by this
>>43215112See that right there is the scapegoating again. This is we lay the sins of teachers and parents and the media and pop culture upon andrew tate and wash our hands of all responsibility. If I'm understanding your namefag you're a gay man not a trans woman. You're dealing with others of your own kind, I'm dealing with the opposite of my kind. What fixes the world is when we ALL take responsibility for our little bit of it. Grand sweeping political movements have rarely done anything good, everyday acts of kindness have rarely done anything bad. The point I am making again and again here is that Andrew Tate is not actually even a fucking thing.
>>432151311) I’m a trans woman 2) you are not outlining an actual approach to change, you’re stating hope as a worldview.You cannot change the world with any one teacher, especially considering how many teachers are misogynists and misandrists themselves, you need broad reform to force them to teach children a certain way I doubt many teachers would want to teach a sex ed class unless the government forced them to, and the government did just that
I have to deal with men and its awesome, no notes. Not sure what your problems are desu>tfw blessed with being gay
>>43215155What I'm not seeing is 3) you're right, andrew tate is not even a thing and I was wrong to post >>43214856All teachers are just one teacher. You're not trying to absolve just one teacher of responsibility, you're trying to absolve all of them, because the government didn't force them to do their jobs properly. That's absurd!
>>43215173Dumb bottom left his face in the mirror.
wtf is with this guys weird hang up abt teachers
>>43214849it's all about Clavicular now unc
>>43215187I don’t have anything to say about this anymore if you cannot acknowledge that systemic reform is more effective then individual action.>>43215200You’d think a teacher killer their family or something
>>43215262>I yieldyeah you doAndrew Tate is not and never has been a thing.
>/lgbt/
>>43214856Lmao based little moidcels.This is unironically just a rubberband reaction to the culture of the past twenty or so years. Boys want to be boys, as i'm sure trannies would understand the need to be one'a true gender. For cismoids in western countries this had been more or less denied. It's also a pretty solid sign that youth overall has no persistent moral values taught to them at home or in the community, if they all suddenly just follow a grifter.I think A. Tate is rly funny bc 90% of his audience are indians. You probably saw that Brave New World book report reddit thread that's been floating around and that's also something i find endearing. The system is ostensibly fake, gay, and ran by unironic pedophile cannibals who worship Moloch. The kids have heard about it in the news or through osmosis. How else are they supposed to react when some dumb foid tries to coax them to talk about their idea of a perfect utopia? To even bring about such thought to a doomed generation is pretty cruel.and that one kid who talked abt Confucius is a delusional nerd.
>>43214965You're incredibly based and i think you deserve a great bf.
>>43214856What does that have to do with ethics in game journalism?
>>43215253I like how Clav has entirely proven his entire point by the fact that you even know who he is.Also exposes women for being vapid but we all know thats the case at this point.He's genuinely painfully autistic and insecure but his jawline goes crazy and he's 6 feet tall so the world is his oyster.
>>43214849it’s kind of a symptom of a larger problem, being that children are all literally fucking retarded now
Besides, what does Tate say that's wven that bad? He's done some fucked shit including human trafficking and scamming jeets but in terms of his message it's like.>Women are whores(factual)>You need to get a lot of money so your romantic prospects improve(true)>Work hard(good advice)>Don't be a conformist(literally in line with hs required literature.)He isn't no Quasimodo the wise but all of what he preaches are just blatant truisms.
>>43216650What was his point? I only know about him cuz people laughing at the “hammering your face” thing.
>>43216687Looks matter far more than personality, talent or personal ethos.If you had to pick between a Mozart level pianist who is 5'4 ogreface vs a Mozart level pianist who is looks like Henry Cavill which one would you employ?Ugly people have it worse and as such looksmaxxing is a procedure which increases the quality of one's life across all of its areas.He proved his point since he'a known worldwide for just becoming really handsome.He advertises it as not being shackled to your genetic potential which is a pretty cool way to put it.He's a genuine retard and an autist tho he just happens to be right on this one thing. Androgenic moggs since he's a failed normie aspergers so he has real hobbies and non-automaton thoughts in addition to mogging.
Like i would not want to talk with Clav about anything but would love to hang out with Androgenic since he can actually hold a conversation and has a lot of insights.
>>43214856Based whore shamers
>>43216739He’s worldwide famous for being a lolcow.
>>43216779How is he a lolcow?>Rich>Happy>Gets women on the regular.>Such a big deal political grifters send widows his way on delegation>Talked about in establishment media>Parodied on SNL>Kik's biggest streamer frequently featured on the main page.Maybe 10 years from now when his health fucks itself but as things are rn... Nigga there is NO way he's in the same neighbourhood as DSP or Chrischan
>>43214849I don't watch youtubers and try to avoid interacting with people who do
>>43216676>>43216739>>43216754you think this is deep? it's not even shallow, not even thinking. choosing mozart for your example is tipping the scale. mozart was a playboy and women thought he was hot in his time. now, if we were talking about beethoven, or haydn, or schumann: anyone who doesn't hire the ugly pianist values money over art, and is a philistine. tate is the major mouthpiece of the nihilistic zoomer metaphysic that says, "being ugly is morally evil"
>>43216797lol.
>>43214887Men are first class citizens lol. Women are only treated delicately because of being breeding factories without personhood
>>43216809The point is that it isnt deep. Its a pretty easy idea which has been taken to its natural logical conclusion.The only reason it's a big issue is because its a guy doing it. Nothing he does or talks about is any crazier than your average femoid beauty channel."Being ugly is morally evil."This is the lesson taught to ugly people daily.?Looksmaxxing is about getting to look good through hard work and dedication.It pains foids to see because it devalues them on the dating market and unlike men without the ability to get by with sex and looks they're worthless.
>>43216914>This is the lesson taught to ugly people daily.hot people having it easier is not a moral function of the world, not ontological or necessary, because what or who is "hot" is completely conditioned by material factors of society
>>43214849My vibe from interacting with men is that at this point they haven't just become misogynistic, they've outright memed themselves prison gay.
>>43214849The pendulum swings.The millennial left spent a decade crying that the west was a "rape culture" as they led a feminist witch hunt against anything remotely pro-male. The result is a generation of zoomies with broken gender relations and a desperate need to be told they're not the bad guys. I'm sure people like Tate will cause some problems, and then society will overcorrect again, back and forth forever. Don't waste time getting too bent out of shape about it.
>>43214849>nerd spaces>talks about influencers and strimrsu realize they're just trying to make an income, right???they all react off each other cos that's what draws a crowd, it's not real, it's all a fake grift
>>43216995>rep during the "all men are rapists" era>transition just in time for the "all women are whores" era
>>43217116Same. Jokes on me for falling for the anti-trans propaganda from friends and family.
The only problem with young men these days is that they haven’t been castrated yet. Once you guys are all eunuchs shit will be great
>>43214849>a decade of having all their favorite toys smashed by retarded left wing politicsand this is andrew tate's fault how?
>>43214849The majority of humanity consists of sociopaths Virtually every influencer (especially the ones trying to push an ideology) is an antisocial narcissist
>>43216818Are those breeding factories in the room with us right now?
>>43216930>moral function>ontological>material factorsabsolute pseud UNIT
>>43218207Nigga bringing up the bird science in a looksmaxxing debate what te hell
>>43218207blow it out your dick, chinggis. the only misused word is "ontological" and i still used it in the zoomer meaning of "ontologically evil">>43218253cute, but i prefer ellington
>>43218302why use fancy word when easy word do trick?
>>43218331>fan-cy>ea-sybig long word make head hurt
>>43218438>the length of a word corresponds to how commonly it is understood
>>43218331well, george, in this case i was referring to a specific zoomer usage of the word "ontological." i know it's not a teutonic word and that really rankles your jimjobs but maybe i could impel you to let it slide this once
>>43218454bad talkyou die now
>>43218469it's okay I forgive you
