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I'm not going to read all that shit lmao
>>43236297No one cares
>>43236297once again they don't understand that sisses are fundamentally tranny reppers
why are people so incredibly preoccupied with what other people do in their own privacy with their own bodies>>43236309this
>>43236328>why are people so incredibly preoccupied with what other people do in their own privacy with their own bodiesbecause they're enforcing oppressive roles, you can't be a leftist and do that since it undermines the very idea of socialism
>>43236352perhaps leftists should stop enforcing oppressive roles by trying to control people's sex lives then, that seems like an un-leftist thing to do
>>43236359spreading awareness is not control
>>43236352Yes i can. Socialism is an economic system of nationalizing industrial capacity. I can make everyone work to death in nazi death camps so long as the state owns the mine
>>43236371it's manipulative anti-sex propaganda
>>43236384it's just facts, slavery and oppression remain the same thing either you consent to them or not
>>43236297Imagine turning the details of how you like to fuck into some political issue, homophobic and transphobic to post this here, take it to >>>/pol/ if you actually think it’s worth discussing.
>>43236373nationalization is just a step towards socialism and the nazis weren't socialists
>>43236393roleplaying slavery is not slavery
>>43236404it is rooted in the historical practice of slavery and regardless of consent, it reinforces the idea in people's minds
>>43236408I encourage you to also protest against the depiction of slavery in film and literature then too, anything other than fighting against real life slavery
>>43236396>homophobic and transphobic to post this heresays the mysoginist who wants to be turn into a woman as a humiliation fetish
>>43236414most films and literature don't depict slavery as a good or desired experience
>>43236297But my kinks aren't even on here.... These are terrible examples because they're way too obvious.
>>43236416Why do you think it’s humiliating to be a woman?
>>43236447I'm literally calling that out, it's the sissies who believe that turning themselves into women is humiliating and that makes it hot for them
>>43236416>>43236422>>43236454why do you waste your time posting this shit every day?it doesn't come across as good faith even for a moment do you think you've ever changed anyone's mind?
>>43236459I'm actually new to this board lol
>>43236454Oh is that what your OP was about? Yeah I don’t give a shit I’m not even sexually active right now, take it to an actual sissy forum if you want anyone to give shit
>>43236297Tag yourself I love sissification because gender bread rolls
>>43236557in a feminist society you would be put in prison
>>43236297Who are the "people" that use ,,this kind" of quotation marks?
>>43236297All of these fetishes are fine and this person is pearl clutching, except for sissy which is gigacringe and raceplay which is gigacringe and also a psyop designed to encourage racial stereotypes and animosity.
>>43236297>more postmodern, postcolonial, neomarxist bullshit
>>43236297My kink is killing whoever made that poster
>>43236568Based femdom
>>43236352Radfems like you believe that what people consensually do in the privacy of their own homes “enforces oppressive roles” regardless of whether those behaviours actually bring about coërcion. This is magical thinking. Your objection to the sexual practices in question is aesthetic, not ethical. You don’t actually want people to be liberated from sexual norms, you just want them to adopt a different set of norms in their stead. Your ideology is just as controlling and normalizing as the sexual norms that you oppose.Read “The Taming of the Id: Feminist Sexual Politics, 1968–1983” and “Cultural Feminism: Feminist Capitalism and the Anti-Pornography Movement” by Alice Echols. Also “The History of Sexuality, Vol. I” by Michel Foucault.
>>43236681Oh, and also chapter 12 in picrel.
>>43236681and what do you want? to exarcebate the historically existing ones through consensual sexual acts? sexuality is the most defining human charactetistic, ignoring it simply because it happens "in bed" won't reduce any of the effects it has on people's lives outside their "bed"
>>43236352OK, I guess by your standards I won't be a leftist then
>>43236698You believe that consensual behaviours somehow “exacerbate” oppressive sexual norms regardless of whether those behaviours actually bring about any coërcion. This is magical thinking. I will never take you seriously.
>>43236610>if I say buzzwords I'll sound like I'm rightso corny
>>43236733Those behaviours don't exist only in bed, think of the blacked sissies on 4chan and twitter for example, their whole fetish is built upon a narrative with social implications which they shill on all platforms, it's not something kept between sexual partners but a whole sub-culture built on sexuality.
>>43236757You have not addressed my point, which is that you believe that consensual behaviours somehow “exacerbate” oppressive sexual norms regardless of whether those behaviours actually bring about any coërcion, which is a self-refuting belief.
>>43236761I gave an example to point out more specifically what I mean and how kinks can have severe political implications affecting society right now. Answer my post >>43236757 if you are able to.
>>43236772You’re moving the goalposts. Your original claim (in >>43236352) was that what people do in their own privacy with their own bodies enforces oppressive roles. You believe that consensual behaviours somehow “exacerbate” oppressive sexual norms regardless of whether those behaviours actually bring about any coërcion. This is magical thinking. You are a sophist. I will never take you seriously.
can you retards stop engaging with bait
>>43236571G*rmans IIRC
>>43236789so you have no reply to my specific example because you know that I'm right, got it
>>43236399>the National Socialist German Workers' party weren't socialistsgigacope
>>43236843More sophistry. I refuse to reply to the example that you provided in >>43236757 because in that post you moved the goalposts. I will not dignify your sophistry with a counter-argument. I will never take you seriously.Will you admit that your belief that consensual behaviours somehow “enforce” or “exacerbate” oppressive sexual norms even in cases in which those behaviours never bring about any coërcion is self-refuting?
>>43236861the example of my new "goalpost" is mentioned in the OP pic as well so if you don't want to engage with it you can leave the thread
>>43236873While the image in >>43236297 mentions race play, it does not mention the use of social media, which you do in >>43236757. You did move the goal posts. Now you have lied about moving the goal posts. I will never dignify your sophistry with a counter-argument.Will you admit that your belief that consensual behaviours somehow “enforce” or “exacerbate” oppressive sexual norms even in cases in which those behaviours never bring about any coërcion is self-refuting?
>>43236297true. sadists probably arent even properly human. or get posessed during arousal
>>43236886word salad which doesn't mean anything, meanwhile people's lives are being destroyed as we speak on 4chan by the fetish I mentioned
>>43236898Your poor reading comprehension is not a counter-argument.Will you admit that your belief that consensual behaviours somehow “enforce” or “exacerbate” oppressive sexual norms even in cases in which those behaviours never bring about any coërcion is self-refuting?
>>43236908not engaging with your word salad
>>43236297>t. theorycel gooning
>>43236839disgusting...
>>43236913It’s not “word salad”, your reading comprehension is poor, that’s all. That is, assuming that you really do believe that my question is “word salad”. How do I know that you’re not just pretending not to understand the question in order to avoid engaging with my proof that your claim in >>43236352 is self-refuting? Why should I take seriously anything that you, a known sophist, write?
>>43236934you're the only sophist here sivi
>>43236946Elementary school playground–level comeback: “I know you are, but what am I?” I will never take you seriously.
>>43236957you're the one calling people that
>>43236971I will never take you seriously.
>>43236983you will never be a real woman like myself
>>43236297Moralist leftists are so annoying and moronic.
>>43236996Typical. You know that my argument is irrefutable, but you don’t want to admit it, because to do so would would your pride, so you make a transphobic remark. It’s also worth noting that you don’t actually know anything about me, so your transphobic remark is baseless. You have nothing.Also: scratch a radfem and you find an obsessive transphobe.
kinks and fetishes are ALWAYS a manifestation of the effects of these hierarchies. whoever made this truly stupid
>>43237024>Also: scratch a radfem and you find an obsessive transphobe.Don’t need to put that much effort. It’s hilarious how these people treat outdated social theory from the previous century as if if were dogma.
>>43237050Yeah. It’s as though they haven’t read anything published since 1979. If radfems read books, then there wouldn’t be radfems.
>>43236297posting this here is like kicking a pornsick hornet nest
>>43237067trvke
>>43237094“Pornsick” is not a medical term, it’s just an adjective that sexuality-negative feminists use to stigmatize trans women’s sexuality. We will never take you seriously. Read Alice Echols.
>>43237107now noe not every useful adjective has to be a medical term
>>43237110The only use of the adjective “pornsick” is to stigmatize trans women’s sexuality.
>>43237118it's a valid use case maam
>>43237123Mask off moment. You people have no principles, you just want to abuse trans people.
>>43236352>because they're enforcing oppressive roleswhat i do with my body in my apartment enforces nothing outside of my bedroom because it is none of anyones business who isnt in my bedroom. what youre doing is literally oppression, and an attempt to violate other people's fundamental rights. take your nose out of my private matters or i will quite literally kill you in retaliation>you can't be a leftistthen im not leftist? i still vote left every election but if you say so then i guess we can agree that im not.
>>43237138>critizing porn and kink culture is a direct attack on trans identityI can't even say that's a mask off moment because you don't bother hiding it.
>>43237169>strawman that is completely different and unrelated to what I wroteWe will never take you seriously, sophist.
>>43237180>The only use of the adjective “pornsick” is to stigmatize trans women’s sexuality.hmm
large chunk of porn is dehumanizingbto women. like gross to watch.
Kink people are the fucking worst
>>43237184That is how the adjective is used, yes.We will never take you seriously.
>>43237198and we aren't going to stop just because it hurts your feelings to be shamed
>>43237197Let a mf get into kink and it will be their whole personality
>>43236681>>43237138>>43237210Yep. You don’t actually want to liberate any one from sexual or gender roles, you want to control people, shame them for behaviour that you dislike, and abuse trans people.
Radfems be like
>>43236297This is psyop bullshit that exists purely to derail conversations and harass/shame people into silence while hiding behind the guise of being the hero. By politicizing things you get to start silencing people by saying it's "rude" or "sensitive".
Theres a section of people that are so intensely neurotic they have to pathologise their anxieties.Other anons have mentioned it, its also why terfs tend to be dour, hideous people, they project their insecurities, and hide their negative emotions around political language>i feel bad seeing happy trans people>trans people are inflicting violence upon me
>>43236297boo hoo fuck off with this faggot moralist shit niggre
>>43236352I think people should just NOT believe to the absolutely retarded and dysgenic ideology called socialism instead
>>43237374Exactly. Their entire ideology is nothing more than a house of cards of elaborate, schizophrenic pseudo-justifications for their desire to eliminate trannies, but the actual reason why they want to do that is because seeing trannies in public (or even just knowing that trannies exist) makes them uncomfortable. They see trannies as expendable non-humans. They don’t actually care about justice.
>>43237431Generally speaking, foids don’t care about justice; they care more about their precious fee fees. The ascendancy of TERF ideology in the UK is due to the feminization of culture.youtu.be/EWLbq7PlrIAhttps://www.compactmag.com/article/the-great-feminization/
>>43236297>>43236352>>43236393this whole argument feels identical to "video games cause violence!!!" tier of belief. Since this one has been throughly refuted, I will simply disregard all you are saying as being bullshit cooked up by a neurotic and controlling mind. The creations of impotent tyrants bitter that the world doesn't bend to their will.
>>43237466card-carrying gender crit father sent me that fuckass article the other day lmao. it's a piece rooted in misogyny about women are, in some form, innately feminine, and that this is a Bad Thing that makes the world Worse.it also forgets that feminism is also about true equality of the sexes, which means both that men can be feminine and that women can be masculine. it is not "feminisation", rather the de-masculisation and the acceptance that "hey, maybe institutional misogyny is a bad thing actually!"
>>43237518It’s clear that you didn’t read the article.
>>43236352Lol good thing I'm not a socialist.Why would I want the government to be making more decisions about my life. Socialism is for jealous losers and comes with all this neo-puritan groupthink bullshit.
>>43237537the average lesbian in Scotland is pro-transsexual, yet there are groups (e.g. Scottish Lesbians and Lesbian Persistance) which I wager you'd describe as "feminine organisations" with such "feminine" ideals of wanting to push people out because they are uncomfortable to the "feminine" viewer.your entire argument falls apart when you try to abstract it to literally any other group. other than like maybe some religious groups, but the reasoning why that works should be obvious to you lmfao
>>43237537the post-enlightenment deluge of statistics-based research has accomplished little else than arming generations of idiots with numerals to shield their generalizations
>>43237564All natal females are violent transphobes without exception, even if they pretend not to be.
>>43237565Statistics are a super power because it lets us with confidence and method assert things instead of speculating pretending to be all knowledgeableStatistics is something both socialist and free marketers hate because it often makes dogmatic ideology seem retarded.
>>43237584Statsistics can be manipulated to influence the reader.For example, there was a headline in the UK recently that said "1 in 15 brits have a disabled blue badge", and the comments were furious.If the headline said "92.5% of Brits do not use a blue badge", suddenly those angry comments dissappear. >the welfare bill is £5 billion a year >the welfare bill leaves 90% of GDP available for government investment Everything i said is true, but how you present this information matters more than the information itself. For every 10 trans woman in the UK, 4000 cis people are not trans. When I've said this to people they are completely shocked as all the media talks about is trans women (ftms dont exist in the eyes of the establishment)
