does anyone here do undecylate?i really want to get on it but i want to know your personal experiences because people seem to use all sorts of dosages and injection frequencies on the internet.>how much do you take?>how often?>subQ or IM?>is the oil MCT or castor oil? >which vendor did you get your vial from?>did you get your levels tested? how were they?>anything else worth mentioning?
>>43239823I'm considering it since I'm so lazy about injections and it seems wise to spread it through the community in the face of potential persecution
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>>43239823undecylate is cool :)i take 40mg every four weeks. to do the long infrequent cycles, you basically *need* to get high-concentration stuff - i was on voix celeste 100mg/ml, but they shut down and now i'm on astrovials 80mg/ml. Opengate also does 80, not sure about anywhere else. Otherwise the injection volumes just get too big to do long cycles subq.oh also undec is usually more expensive :( rarer ester i guessDon't know anything about IM.My levels were fine, if a little on the low side for monotherapy. Still acceptable though, but ymmvEven with high concentration, the subq volumes for long cycles are big. I split it up into two injections each time, and rotate sites (thighs and stomach) so that no spot gets injected twice in a row. Even then there's some swelling and bruising.
have been doing about 20mg every 16 days since a couple years but havent checked my levels so far. i grew breasts my waist got smaller and all that so its working ig
>>43245232oh and also basically i adjusted my levels by titrating up until i didnt produce cum anymore and then stayed there
>>43244570what constitutes "on the low side"?like whats the figure
>>43246818I was getting sufficient T suppression at ~150pg/ml (570 pmol/L). It's kinda low but I felt fine with the dose I was on and was not experiencing any signs of testosterone presence (extremely slow facial hair growth, no male BO, gross male stuff wasn't happening, etc). Doing it IM is probably better if you need higher levels
>>43246818>>43247373(~150 trough, ~160 peak if I timed the test right. Levels are very steady, even on a long cycle, which can be another advantage depending on preference.)
>>43247373>>43247410thanksi've seen some people on the internet saying they take 20mg per month and that they have good levelsare they delusional then? or do you think you're the outlier that needs more?
>>43239823I take 16mg every 14 days (sometimes 32mg/28days), IM, MCT oil.I haven't gotten my levels checked but everything seems to be going fine and i was getting similar effects even at a lower doseage. With IM i've found that doing 0.4ml is fine but a bit uncomfortable so you can make it work with a lower concentration (I was using vanna pharmas 40mg/ml to start) but if you want to do monthly I would suggest 80+mg/ml because going over 0.5ml injected probably feels a little grim but would still be doable. In general undecylate is the perfect ester for the lazy disorganised tranner because you can be a bit lax about injection days without feeling like shit from your hormones dropping and the long injection cycles are great if you have to travel. If youre starting HRT in general you should probably do a loading dose but personally i just kinda winged it to start and it worked surprising quick (within 2 weeks) so I don't think it really matters unless youre neutrotic about it. Undecylate doseages are kinda vibe based because theres basically no data on its efficacy but if youre doing >1mg/day youll probably be fine
>>43249641i mean everyone's different. sounds like they're trutrans hsts and i'm some jeep mutant lol, but my doses are in line with what homebrewers recommend and with the few scraps of data we have on EUn>>43250229seconding the loading dose thing. you can do one if you like but your levels should be at their steady state after like 3 injections so it's not necessary
