Why does it bother you that you are biologically a male?
It's not really that I'm biologically a male so much as it is the extent of masculinization. I'd never think twice about technically being biologically male if I weren't so repulsive.
>>43244550Do you ever think about changing yourself?
>>43244566Surgically? Of course.
>>43244586Surgically how? SRS? FFS?What about behavior, clothes, patterns of thinking?
>>43244611FFS feels most attainable and helpful right now. I'm not sexually active and don't really engage with my genitals so the priority is low.>What about behavior, clothes, patterns of thinking?Working on it. I'm not out.
>>43244536It doesn't. It makes me superior in every way to biological females.
>>43244536It bothers me that I simply feel like my body is too big and it's uncomfortable. I've felt like I was piloting a shell instead of living in my body ever since I was 12 and the bigger the shell is the more uncomfortable it is.
>>43244744>I've felt like I was piloting a shell instead of living in my body ever since I was 12 and the bigger the shell is the more uncomfortable it is.Jesus...Ever tried therapy?
>>43244536Emasculation trauma
>>43244536It doesn’t really bother me since whether I’m a “real” woman or not my life is unchanged, but you can’t say “biologically female” without offering a definition as to what you mean since in biology sex isn’t a simple A or B switch. The whole “debate” is just pseudo intellectual masturbation over semantics 99% of the time desu
>>43244834>in biology sex isn’t a simple A or B switch.Do you have penis or vagina?
>>43244844Posing it as a binary either-or kinda showcases what I mean. Nobody is actually taking this discussion seriously. Most participants know that gonadal sex isn’t really a binary because most people who waste their time on this know that intersex conditions exist and furthermore that gonadal sex is more bimodal than anything. But these facts need to be ignored for the sake of the “debate” because if they aren’t ignored we’d need to acknowledge that biology is messy as fuck and doesn’t fit into the simple and neat categories humans want it too. These discussions are never an actual serious discussion of biology of sex, it’s all vibes and the sooner people admit that the sooner we can all move on with our lives Ugh I’m already wasting too much of my time on this but you get what I’m saying. This is all just mental masturbation
>>43244536i hate that this is my body, everything about it is wrong. hair sprouting from my face, huge heavy bones, broad shoulders, narrow hips with the space between barren. i don't have the gift of creating life and instead there is this awful thing sticking out of my groin that engorges itself with blood whenever im touched to arousal, when my lips meet a man's.i just want to be a woman, i live every second of my life coveting what they have. i wanted my puberty to go the way that theirs did, when the opposite began happening i became completely disconnected from my body and couldn't bear to see pictures of myself or my reflection in the mirror. i want to live as they do, feel joy and sadness and love and suffering as they do. i want a man to love me, be able to commit to me, until death do us part sort of thing. i see couples out in the world and when the men are handsome enough to make my world stop i know i can't stare too long. and then i have to fight back tears every fucking time because i know he and all like him are off limits to me, forever until i die. even the ones on grindr who look nice always unmatch me because im deformed, i dont even want to be groveling on there but realistically it is all i can ever expect to do. i have too much inertia and cowardice to let go of the life im living now but i know it'll never be what i want and i regret not pulling the trigger when i held a gun in my hands and thought about eternity, making a mess of the carpeted floor i sat on. and i know this is all shitty and pathetic and over dramatic and stupid, it just hurts so much every day and i can barely type the words to express it. this all just feels like a mistake and it always has
>>43244913You haven't answered my question
>>43244761Yes. A lot. The piloting feeling was really really bad early teens. Like, genuinely felt like I was an alien remote controlling my body from the mothership, that one day I would report back with information on my reconnaissance mission.
>>43244937The gonadal sex of me specifically is irrelevant to the question of what biologically female means. I already said I don’t really care much if I’m male or female. I only care about how I’m perceived and treated so it’s kinda a moot point.The worst part of this pseudo intellectual circle jerk is that nobody even gets to cum so I think I’m just gonna brush my teeth and set my alarm for the work in the morning
>>43244998Do you have a dick or pussy?
>>43245021Whatever busts your nut
>>43245021Irrelevant. You'd move the goalpost even with SRS.
>>43245035>Whatever busts your nutThis isn't about me. Do you have a penis or a vagina?
>>43245041If you don't want to answer me just say it. I won't listen to your mental gymnastics.
>>43245059Nta, but I'm post-OP. Like I said, you'll now move the goal post.
>>43245066>but I'm post-OP.I'm sorry.
>>43245066My favorite part of this hell site is that you can end a convo and then have some random anon pick up the conversation and have it continue without the other party even realizing the first chick he was tryna rage bait went to bed
>>43245102Wow you're so cool
>>43245102if you dont want to be anonymous, then why are you posting on an aonymous imageboard?i agree tho it must be agonizing for an attention obsessed narcissist like yourself to hang out in a place like this this
>>43244536i developed wrong in the womb because of microplastics and being born from a >30 year old woman so i feel an irreparable disconnect between my body and who i wanna be. in any sane world they would've aborted me or put me down with a lethal injection for my own good.
itt: misandrist men who totally lack introspection
>>43244536>jia plaphog arc
>>43244536Cuz I wish I wasn't repulsive and threatening and emotionally mutilated.
>>43244536What is "biologically male" to you?
Beauty is feminine. Women love being women. The reality of being a man is disgusting inside and out.
>>43247541Someone with male biology (reproductive system, hormone distribution etc.) at birth
>>43247546why at birth lolat birth you aren't producing sperm and stuff too and your hormones are different before puberty
>>43247546>at birthAlright, then the only thing that "bothers" me is that you think what I had at birth matters more than what I have now.
>>43244913I am sure you have a penis.
>>43247542I don't think masculinity is inherently disgusting and evilIt's just that it has been largely rendered useless in modern society, many models of it are pretty nasty (though they had their uses in our past) and masculine aesthetics are just complete trash, the best looking men being androgynousThere are good aspects of masculinity - exploring, building new things, creating aura of natural authority, being a father figure, guiding women and so on. Largely forgotten and abandoned nowadays but we need them back
>>43247561NTA, but I don't have one...
the briton drowns where the american swims. you're drowning, i'm swimming
>>43244536Matter of perspective. I myself don't believe in bioessentialism. I do hate myself for masculine traits because there will always be a horde of transphobes that will deny me of my womanhood based on some bullshit that they can't see. So what if I used to produce small gametes, so what if I have the Y chromosome? These shouldn't dictate how I view myself just like they don't dictate how I view others. I may be bullied for all of this but I will never give up. I don't care how hard it gets. If I truly feel like a woman then I will do what all brave women have done and what all women should do... Fight for our freedom.
>>43247563I believe most men would rather be women.And I truly admire men; most cientists, inventors, artists, philosophers have been men... It takes a lot of resolve, discipline, strenght. And maybe it's related. Maybe being a man is what makes you forever unsatisfied and restless.
>>43247586The only ones fighting for women's freedom are other men so you're just proving you're one of us lmao. Who gave women the right to vote? It was men. If you want to be a woman you need a man to fight for you instead while you service him for his efforts.
>>43247627Stfu please they'll think am you
>>43247634No need to be me to have me inside of you
>>43247610I mean historically the roles were more defined so there were perks of being either Now, women can also be great scientists and inventors, in fact that's what our society wants, great womenWomen receive social support whether they want to achieve greatness or live simple lives, men don't really get much, that's why being a man nowadays gets you nothing while you could only benefit from being a woman
>>43244536sex is the gendering of the body or whatever the phrase goes. even transing your gender you can't be forgiven from the original sin of being born male.
>>43247627Men didn't give women rights out of their goodwill just like whites didn't end slavery immediately because of a sudden change of heart. It was a long-fought battle that hasn't fully ended to this day. Fuck you!
>>43247683They did it so women would work for their factories since men died in wars. Doesn't change the fact that men liberated women from other men. If they decide to take it back then you're on wet hole duty again faggot
>>43247706shhhh... quiet, filthy moid.
>>43247706>Switzerland: 1971fucking BASED
>>43244536I dont fucking know nobody knows science doesent know and it would probably take science a long time to find out
>>43247876Science can't answer retarded questions.