If a cis man woke up as a pretty cis girl, would he actually experience GD and 41%? Or, would he become used to it and be happy(AKA the repper fantasy)?
>>43256252any man could happily live as a womanthe opposite is not true
>>43256252Considering the amount of mtfs and even straight guys who crossdress in secret plus a ton of movies where guys become women I'm pretty sure all guys would be fine with it. Who doesn't like being a cute girly girl? You'd have to be a fag or a retard not to want a slim waist and bouncy boobies
>>43256402All guys no, but a large amount of men have nothing to lose by becoming a woman.
considering how literally insane men go from even developing a tiny bit of breast tissue, they likely would experience gd, yes
>>43256420being a man with gyno isn’t the same as being a pretty girl
Probably just cope in destructive ways like drugs and excessive casual sex
>>43256461>drugs and excessive casual sex...Fuck
They would. Consider just how much men worry about their dick size
I would immediately kill myself.
No. All men want to be are at the least would be fine with being women.
>>43256618Why? What exactly would be worse?
>>43256252Depends on if you believe Cis By Default theory
Shockingly, the tranny board cannot conceptualise the cis mind
>>43256629I would hate to have a woman's body. Flabby, weird, weak. No penis. Plus my boyfriend would no longer be attracted to me.
>>43256631Yeah, think about it. How many things do they really enjoy vs being forced to like to fit in.
>>43256631>>43256633There is no cis mind. Most people just go along with what they have without even questioning it. It's no coincidence that most trans people are autistic which is the exact opposite of that mindset.
>>43256252>cis girl, >experience GDNo because in this scenario you've determined that he's cis and cisgender people do not experience GD. If you modify it slightly that he woke up as a pretty girl, that changes things. Because now we're asking is he still neurologically male, or was he just male socialized. If he's still neurologically male, ie it's a brain transplant not a mind transplant, then yes he will experince almost immediately as his brain struggles to cope with the estrogen/progesterone fucking with his cognition, not to mention all the other physiological processes that come along with being a girl. He will feel "wrong" in his body and I imagine that would be extraordinarily intense. If on the other hand the brain is neurologically female, then the only real issue is his socialization. This probably wouldn't rise to dysphoria but I imagine PTSD is definitely going to be on the cards after a few weeks of experiencing life on girlside. Cisgender people don't really comprehend the other gender's perspective very well.
>>43256683Cis man on hrt here, I feel nothing wrong with the hormones. Even the breast tissue are a minor deal and I only care because other people think so.
>>43256714Why are you on hormone replacement therapy, "cis man"?
>>43256714Sure but that's exogenous hormones of a small dose that you titrated up to. In scenario 2 a cisgender male brain is suddenly flooded with cisgender female levels of crosssex hormones. For you managable side effects, changes in mood, apetite, circadian rhythm that sort of thing. For him it's going to be a completely new set of sensations that his brain is not wired to handle. It's not going to be able to cope with that.
>>43256402>You'd have to be a fag or a retard not to want a slim waist and bouncy boobiesWhy is it so hard for you people to understand that we want these things in a partner and not in ourselves? For the same reason I want to fuck women and not be fucked like a woman. Why would I want to have physical features that get other men hard? Anyone who doesn't get this is not straight and/or malebrained
>>43256730I just to avoid twink death, I have been on it for 4 years. It feels good that I don’t have to worry about normal male aging.
>>43256743i don't think that the brains are that exclusively gendered. It would take some time for sure, but it could get used to a different body. Organ transplants are a thing.
>>43256749You are just not attracted to women enough.
>>43256757Why would GD even exist if what you’re saying is true?
>>43256977GD is about psychology.
>>43256683>Cisgender people don't really comprehend the other gender's perspective very well.I think trannies don't either as mtf i don't get men
>>43256757>Organ transplants are a thingNo brain transplantations yet, attempted with monkeys and it's failed.
>>43256252Men only like being men because of their vain arrogance
>>43257062If I wasn’t naturally predisposed to be a high T man I.e being a hairy bald man, I could be ok without hrt. I don’t suffer from social GD in any sense.
>>43256252I think he would be upset he could no longer date straight women. A straight cis man would not be able to survive the throttle, the passion, the strife, of a lesbian relationship. >But they love their penisesThe vagina/clit has thousands of more nerve endings and women can have multiple orgasms and sometimes shake or cru after. I think men will learn to cope with the new set up
>>43257625I don't see how that changes anything. What makes you not predisposed to be high T man?
>>43257640I wouldn't want to be restricted to bottomingFemale masturbation I could probably get used to eventuallyIf I could be a newhalf or futa that would be ideal, straight upgrade over my current life
>>43256252Highkey i dont think gender dysphoria is from the mismatch i think its just a hormone intolerance. So the answer would depend on the individual
>>43257653If I wasn’t naturally born as a man without any predisposition to be more masculine than the average man I.e wide shoulders, hairy, balding, etc. I could be fine with just some fantasies here and there. I felt like I had no choice, I’m fine with all the effects of hrt I.e boobs, ED, etc because it’s less suffering than becoming naturally a high T individual man. It’s just that I sometimes feel like a freak that can’t man up and accept his fate.
>>43257660Pegging is a thing.
>>43257865point us to where nerve endings are on a pegging harness retard
>>43258358I didn't say it's as pleasurable, but "restricted to bottoming" is false.
>>43256252I think eventually he’d have GD, but it would develop gradually as it starts to become clearer that he can’t go back to normal.
>>43258519Why go back to worse?
>>43256763AGP might make the man just get used to it.
>>43256387Maybe coomers and trannies but not me. It would feel weird not having a cock. What am I supposed to use to fuck a cis woman/non-op passoid? I don't think dykes would want a woman that acts so manly, I wouldn't want to be hit on by straight dudes, I wouldn't want to be taken advantage of. Not to mention, blood coming out of my genitals once a month. Being a cis man does have it's disadvantages but I still would prefer life as one instead of a cis or a trans woman.
>>43257640I'd just go for one night stands, desu.
>>43256387fpbp
>>43256252He'd probably be fine... until everyone kept treating him like a girl, nagging him to be more ladylike, and men started flirting with him. After that, being hot would start to lose the appeal and he'd want his penis back. Then the realities of maintaining an attractive female body would catch up with him. He'd realize the consequences of not shaving his legs and doing meticulous makeup, the expectation that he'd be penetrated during anything sexual, how annoying it is to be short, estrogen related mood swings. He might even have a pregnancy scare and start to think about how weird people are about mothers
>>43256252This is one of a very small number of academic studies that looked at "cis men" being forcibly transitioned (from birth though, so they weren't aware of it):>Discordant Sexual Identity in Some Genetic Males with Cloacal Exstrophy Assigned to Female Sex at Birthhttps://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa022236TLDR the majority did experience something akin to dysphoria, and attempted to transition to male. A small number were totally cool with it though.
>>43262280I think I would start to cry if guys flirted with me and I knew they wanted to put it inside me.
>>43256252OK. But does my sexuality change to the bog standard afab autosexual/bisexual thing? What parts of me are left?Do I get a female brain and become more retarded? But with my memories, somehow?Or are we basically just saying that we functionally kill ourselves (you are your memories) and a woman takes our place?
>>43263246You retain your memories, the brain remains the same. Well, the hormones will affect it but for a trannoid it would do nothing.
