>finally muster up the willpower to go to a career counselor as a first step in trying to unfuck my life>arrive on time, we greet each other, she asks me for my phone number, e-mail and ID all the data lines up>when she hands me my ID, she plainly asks "What gender do you identify yourself with?">baffled, as I was fully manmodding, I reply "The ID card says male">she tells me she just wanted to make, and I just nod my head along saying that it's fine>at the end of our meeting she goes out of her way to tell me that if the status of my gender changes, I can just let her knowI'm simultaneously surprised, confused, humiliated, and embarrassed. I just don't know what to make of it
>takes feminizing hormones >is suprised when people notice you're feminized
And you're a cism or what
>>43258126why tho? isn't that what ppl told u would happen?I seem to remember also telling ppl that a good way to look like more of an obvious gender activist type is half-baking transition...
>>43258198>>43258239I was in full manmode. Male clothes, male voice, no make-up or any accessories, nothing (except being clean shaven). That's the reason why I'm so surprised. Especially because it was obvious to me that she clocked me. There should've been nothing to clue her in>>43258210I don't think so. Probably not
>>43258300except u know, the fact that ur half-baking a transition, probs has something to do w/ tipping her offso girlmode soon or continue the farce as a joke???
>>43258327I'm just over half a year on hrt and just look like a man. Especially my body. I also have no clothes to girlmode with. Worst of all, I'm deeply afraid and ashamed of even just trying it out in a safe environment
>>43258300Nothing except you soft estrogenized skin and your womanly odor presumably.
manmoding is outdated unc its not a secret what youre doing "sir"trannies have been a known entity for at least 5 years in pop culture
>>43258386I don't live in the us, terfisland or anywhere where trannies are in the forefront of anyone's mind
>>43258126the existence and media presence of non-passing trannies mean all visibly feminized people are going to be clocked by anyone paying attention. i know a twink who works in an office whos boss is currently she/hering them whenever they feel like being a bitch.
>>43258366She didn't smell nor touch me
>>43258557It's very obvious when men start estrogen because their skin improves so much. Women notice good skin.
>>43258300do you have hair that goes down past your chin? when you have that and an estrogenized face everyone can tell
>>43258730I do, but it was tied up in a ponytail. I also wore a cap and stuck the ponytail through the hole in the back
>>43258126manmoder stolen valor
>>43258126>I reply "The ID card says male"Cis men do not talk like that LOL
>>43261052imagine being a tranny and being bad at gaslighting people
>>43261052What do cis men talk like then? Enlighten me please
>>43261603"I'm a guy"Saying "look at what my ID says" is such tranny coded language
>>43258811That's literally the woman thing to do with ball caps :crying:
>>43258811>give bitch>get gendered femalewow how could that have happened to you
>>43261603If you have a response as indirect and "look, here's proof!" as that it indicates that this is an ongoing problem for you. Which suggests tranniness.
Cis guys aren't men because of what their ID says. If you point to your ID when someone asks your gender it implies that you don't really agree with what's on there.
>>43261603laugh at the question
cutest thread up rn. i love malefailing stories so much fr. the same thing happened to me last week; wearing a male outfit, no makeup or accessories, dirty hair sleeked like a dude. still got gendered female. i was also taken aback but i guess the thing is people really can tell an estrogenized "male" apart from real men even if "he" is wearing mens clothes. this is your sign to start girlmoding. or dont, i cant blame you since nothing cheers me up like a good malefail and you kinda lose that when you girlmode :P
>>43261525I'm horrible at lying. I can only tell white lies or lie by ommision. Trying to tell an actual lie is almost impossible without me behaving extremely suspiciously
>>43262223failmale with a pure soul
>>43261632>>43261834>>43261923>>43261860I tried my best. She was also very kind and forthcoming which made it much harder for me to act as if nothing was up>>43261661How is wearing my hair like that a woman thing to do? Men also have long hair oftentimes
>>43261940I'm happy you like the thread, although malefailing unfortunately doesn't make me feel any better. It just makes me feel like a wolf in sheep's clothing
>>43258444Where do you live?
>>43261632it's chud coded, like you don't believe in the concept of gender in the first place
>>43258460So does that mean the boss thinks she’s a trans man?
>>43262286a small town in germany
>>43262300no, they just want to bully the twink
>>43262241Yeah I was going to say it sounded like she was sympathetic, and trying to leave an opening for you to be more forthcoming if you ever want to be.I agree with the other anons that the hat and ID were both tells. There are probably other small things you overlooked. The career counselor is probably better at reading people than a random person is though. It’s also possible she’s worked with other trans people trying to get their shit together, and intuitively knows more signs to look for.
>>43262241> How is wearing my hair like that a woman thing to do? Men also have long hair oftentimesMaybe it’s different in Germany, but the ponytail through the hole is something I’ve almost only ever seen women do. Guys with long hair wearing a baseball hat usually have their hair down and just tucked back behind their ears, or if it’s in a ponytail it’ll be a low ponytail that sits beneath the strap.The ponytail through the hole look feels very, “woman styling men’s clothes”. It’s almost like a girl wearing her bf’s oversized shirt as a nightgown.