Is it stupid if this is my goal body as a mtf? Currently boy/manmoder and trying to pull the trigger
>>43258502I'm not gonna say stupid but, why do you want to transition and yet maintain a masculine body? Are you sure you're MTF and not enby?
>>43258550My dream self is masculine acting and dressing while being unquestionable female, and still a bit feminine with long hair and some makeup. I dont know why but that's just what I wish I could be. I want to be a woman not non-binary even though that probably describes me better I guess
Nah that's fucking awesome. If you want gear go for SARMs to avoid masculinization and grab some HGH you'll get better boobs for that too>>43258502 do you think all cis women who want a muscular build are enby? Why would you apply this line of thought to a trans woman
>>43258568Gear = roids right? Little spooped by that. Was thinking of trying pio though
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>>43258582How far are you along with e, don't do pio too early because it will affect breast composition and development (positively if you have it later though so)
>>43258591How long should I be on e before I add pio? I've got decently big boobs from on and offing e for years
>>43258502 (OP)No. I'm already on my way to looking like this. Started gymmaxxing a year ago and an unexpected side effect was gaining an hourglass figure so I recommend it.
>>43258502 (OP)No. I'm already on my way to looking like this. Started gymmaxxing a year ago and an unexpected side effect was gaining an hourglass figure so I recommend it.tbf i am 5 years on hrt so maybe start there first and then start gymmaxxing after a couple years.
>>43258601Did you start with any specific routine or online plan? Looking for a starting point
>>43258502this is peak human form. i'm working toward the same thing, but it's hard with negative hips
>>43258610Start E and then go to the gym after a couple years. Idk if it makes a difference but i had lots of muscle atrophy for 3 years then started building again so they kinda feel more like girl muscles if that makes sense. as far as routine i do 3 upper body days a week and 2 lower. upper is split between upper, pull day, and push day. pull day is back + triceps and push is biceps and shoulders. i usually skip chest cause im scared of getting a big man chest. leg day i mostly do squats, rdls, and then whatever else. it doesnt really matter as long as you're hitting all ur muscle groups in a week and you can focus more on whatever specific areas you want. the biggest thing for gaining muscle is your diet. to gain muscle you need to be in a calorie surplus and eat a shitton of protein, like 100g/day or so. if you're fat you can gain muscle while losing weight so a calorie deficit.
>>43258502waow I want to be her and also date her>>43258564This is based and doesn’t make you any less of a woman btw, no matter what brainwormed babytrans or incel moids might tell you. Besides, non-binary is a pretty meaningless term which even includes gnc women.
>>43258643Thanks for the info anon. Big chun li thighs SOON. I actually have pretty wide hips luckily. Any particular protein you like to eat? Just chicken breast and protein shakes mostly?>>43258684That made me feel better, thanks nona
>>43258706im pescatarian so i dont eat chicken but thats certainly a good option. lean and high in rpotein. white meat like that is prob going to be better than red meat like steak or pork anyways. I mostly just eat shrimp and salmon. i also like to make tofu dishes sometimes just cause i love asian food. when it comes to protein shakes it doesn't matter, whatever you find tastes the best cause some of them are downright nasty. personally i like the chocolate premier protein powder. also rice+beans is kinda crazy too, i eat that for lunch every day. beans have a decent protein content and rice has some too. beans are also high in fiber which is good for ur health in general.
>>43258502personally not for me but this is based af. i think mtf should do this if they like this build on themselves. you get gender euphoria and femininity out of things most mtf would suffer from. really smart strategy.
>>43258502yah i feel the same a bit i guess, i just wish i didnt have a giant fuck off moid skull with my long midface and huge philtrum, i dont think ill ever actually look female unfortunately, just a larping man forever
How can you want to be female but want to be huge and muscular
>>43258502its okay if you want this but youre making the goal of passing much harder for yourself lol
>>43259500It's actually the opposite though
>>43259538Yeah man I cant wait to see a tranny muscular to the extent that the woman is in OP's image with a massive fucking ribcage and manface lmaooooo. Its actually not the opposite though.
>>43259538Are you retarded? How would having a muscular body not make it infinitely harder. These cis women already have people calling them men.
>>43258502i dont think its dumb but im biased bc my creatine is arriving from slop-azon in like 4 hrs.
>>43259579>>43259712Because lifting gives you a huge ass and legs and pinches in your waist. Pic related mtf. Dr powers says that his mtf patients who work out get the best results from hrt too.
>>43258502No it's based
>>43259858>Because lifting gives you a huge ass and legsOP clearly isnt going for lower body only>pinches in your waist.Losing weight pinches you waist by lowering body fat, you cant spot reduce, and obviously your bones wont change lel.>Pic relatedNice man, a porn tranny with multiple surgeries done, I dont think thats what OP looks like actually, maybe im an asshole for assuming though. What does cheerrypicking an outlier do for your argument anyway? Again for OP its okay to get huge but keep in mind your bone structure isnt doing you any favors and this goes for the majority of trannies. Personally I wouldnt go with PPL like someone suggested, Id recommend less upper body work, maybe have one upper body day and a cardio day. Thats about it oh and deadlifts are really underrated for building a big butt
>>43258502its based but she only looks like that because she has muscle on top of her feminine bone structure (hips/shoulders/ribs/and she even looks pretty short). youd just be arnold schwarzenegger asking people to call you ma'am
>>43259300>woman is when frail and weak
Do you want cis women to be afraid of you?
>>43258502Don't let the weirdos here groom youIt's ok to be a buff, feminine man
>>43258564>My dream self is masculine acting and dressing while being unquestionable female, and still a bit feminine with long hair and some makeup. I dont know why but that's just what I wish I could be.So you want to be a pretty man?Look at really butch female bodybuilders, maybe. Or Matt "Janae" Kroc.
>>43262818>>43262831Grotesque.
>>43262842This is a (real) woman btw
>>43262850This is a (trans) woman btw
>>43262831>>43262850These women are on very androgenic steroids, most likely tren and TRT. Stuff like tren has an even greater androgenic effect than the standard HRT for FTMs.The woman in OPs pic is easily natty for a cis woman. The muscular between the OPs and what you've posted is completely different.>>43258643You should train chest. If you're natty, you won't gain a man chest, if anything it will help your breasts sit atop something. After I started working out my breasts became a much better shape even if they didn't gain fat mass.But you are right, I got into lifting by chance after 10 years on HRT. Years of weight cycling through diet and fat redistribution could not defeat the upside-down triangle. 3 years in the gym, lifting weights and building muscle has. The effects of trying to build muscle after a decade of HRT is crazy, I'm still so crazy weak.
>>43258502my goal body is a femboy who gets bred by your goal body
