freaked out a little bit after the injection this time but i was able to calm down after a whilei think one thing that influenced me is that i've read up about how homebrewers make the vials and i didnt like what i was reading at all...the honscience would want you to believe that its safe and the same as pharma grade in practice but in reality every bit as sketchy as it sounds when you first hear of it...you can probably get away with DIY with gel or pills but with vials you're really taking a risk is what i think. like there's no doubt in my mind people have died from this. you just dont know about it because they're too dead to make a reddit or 4chan post about it and whenever they're found the cops or doctors or whatever assume drug use or something like that, they dont know about DIY HRT.
>>43258829It almost certainly hasn't killed anyone. What would kill you with a diy vial is infection. That doesn't happen instantly, it takes a while, is agonizing if it happens but very survivable with treatment. I have never heard of someone getting a serious infection like that in all the years of people doing sketchy vials. Even if it killed you instantly somehow, it would look nothing like someone doing drugs. There are no recreational drugs that are commonly injected im or subq, it would raise eyebrows, lead to an autopsy and almost certainly be widely reported and used to slime trannies more.tldr; you need to chill
>>43258829we'd probably hear more about diy estrogen related deaths if they were a semi common occurence. not like it matters that much, atleast to me, because if i stopped doing diy i would just kill myself immediately so why would i care about diy killing me. atleast it would be a honourable death or something! heh like im chasing my dreams and stuff...
>>43258864ketamine is injected IM irrc
>>43258864>What would kill you with a diy vial is infectionwhich is a concrete possibility... these people are making injectables in their dirty kitchens and no two of them can agree on whats the safe way to go about it...>That doesn't happen instantly, it takes a while, is agonizing if it happens but very survivable with treatmentbut arent there other ways you can diesurely there must be a fast routelike im 99.9999% sure i've seen scientific papers about people dying on the spot at hospitals because of some kind of substance they didnt tolerate in their injectables...>There are no recreational drugs that are commonly injected im or subqmhhh are u surelike opioids maybe? i remember my dad injected some kind of opioid for a while when he had surgery, and i assume it was IM/subq>I have never heard of someone getting a serious infection like thatyeah they're too dead to tell you thats why>>43258869>we'd probably hear more about diy estrogen related deaths if they were a semi common occurencetroons arent a semi common occurrence to begin with>not like it matters that much, atleast to me, because if i stopped doing diy i would just kill myself immediately so why would i care about diy killing me. atleast it would be a honourable death or something! heh like im chasing my dreams and stuff...yeah same im not quittingbut im not as confident as i used to be in the safety of such a thing
>>43258893I guess it can be. It is still a manner of death that would lead to an autopsy. And even more still, something that would probably not kill you or at least give you plenty of time to share your experience. Point is, it's been well over a decade since people started doing diy vials en masse. There are very few stories of harm. I wouldn't worry, just inspect your vials before injecting
>>43258912send a sample in to have it tested, it will cost a few hundred bucks but since a vial lasts 1,5 years it'll still be relatively cheap for the time span
>>43258912>these people are making injectables in their dirty kitchensHeroin junkies make injectables on a spoon in dirty public bathrooms. Most they get from it is some cotton fever, what kills them is overdose. Your body has an immune system, as long as you're not utterly reckless you'll be fine. You've probably had cuts in your kitchen that got you closer to death than a vial brewed in a dirty kitchen would>surely there must be a fast route I can't think of one. Maybe an allergic reaction. But that would apply to tons of other legit injectables. If you can think of one you should spell it out>opioids maybe?Opiods are intravenous. Someone else mentioned ket. In any case, a death like that will trigger an autopsy and the cause would be found>too dead to tell you thats why But they wouldn't die instantly and there would have to be many more who survive a real bad infection than ones who die from it
>>43258944i dont even think its feasiblelike i would have to send the entire vial or be able to manufacture a new airtight one, or else its going to test positive for everything as soon as it comes plus the "lab" is probably yet another troon's dirty kitchen with handmade equipment or something>>43258965>I can't think of one. Maybe an allergic reaction. But that would apply to tons of other legit injectables. If you can think of one you should spell it outyeah i meant something allergicthough i would have probably found out by now>Opiods are intravenousi meant the legit ones, like the medications>Heroin junkies make injectables on a spoon in dirty public bathroomsthis is honestly a really good point i never thought of thismaybe im just being a neurotic freak after all
>>43258893Do you realize how much K you have to do to OD? No one with that level of ket use is gonna fuck up IMing a dose. They will autopsy you
>>43258998>maybe im just being a neurotic freak after allI think you kind of are yeah, no offense. I get it, similar thinking kept me off injections for years. When i started the only one making them was Lena and her website was enough to put me off. But at this point, there are providers that have serious, professional lab tests of their stuff. The market also only lists providers that use proper technique in their manufacturing. Sure things could go wrong, but there are people who have been doing this for over ten years now without issue. If you can get over yourself, injections really are worth it in my experience
>>43259034yeah the lena guide was the one that freaked me out the most honestlythough the fact that she lived to be however old she is kinda proves that it should be safe i guess
