26yo perma manmoder, 9 months hrt, 7 with good levels. I am 5’11, 180cm at 170lbs, 77kg.I am not sure whether to eat and gain fat or lose weight to get rid of muscle. I have a lot of upper back muscle and chest muscle from gymrepping and it makes me want to unironically kms. And on the other hand Ik how important it is to start gaining fat as well. I’m not sure what to do. I feel like I have to lose at least 10-12kg, 22-26lbs to get rid of the muscle but it’s at a detriment to potential fatgains. What do. Ik i will never pass or even look visibly trans but this giga retard appreciates any advice
for refrence this how much back muscle i have
>>43258970op im not trying to be mean or anything seriously but how does one start hrt at 26? like did you live in an untraconservative muslim country and u just escaped a few months ago or something
>>43258970I think cut down to 140 then gain back up to 200. Def kill that muscle and focus on that
>>43258988Not OP but I started at 29. Long story short, I didn't have money or resources until 26 or so because I was intermittently in school or NEET and dependent on my ultraconservative southern baptist family. Then I tried repping for a few years out of desperation because by the time I was financially independent I knew it was over for me. Didn't work and now I'm trooning out anyways.
>>43258988uncle found out at 13, cut my long hair, gave me anabolic steriods made me lift weights, made me fuck a prostitute at 14, made me feel shametl;dr childhood truama>>43259010ok ok i will
>>43258970Dick size?
>>43258988average age of starting hrt is 28
>>43259024How are you made to do those things?
>>432590250.000000000000001 inches>>43259064because i was an autistic child living under a criminals roof and beaten if i didn't do what i was told.
>>43259081>0.000000000000001 inchesProve it
>>432591198=D
thanks for the repfuel, sist. 29 bodybuilder physique repperi hope it gets better for you thoug, 9 months is still babytrans
>>43258970gain weightgain musclestrong yet soft is the ultimate body type
>>43258970i don't understand gymrepping. i understand repping but actively working out to get jacked doesn't make sense to me
>>43259299you'll do anything and everything to make the tranny thoughts stop as a true repper, nona. nothing works though
>>43259052huhhhh??
>>43259299I'm not op, but I'm trans, and I used to be a gymbro. Basically I lifted because it made me feel better it's shilled to a lot of guys as a way to feel better, also it helped me get women, and I am attracted to women.>>43258970Op focus on nuking everything with some decent fasting and calorie restriction, how long has it been since you quit gymbroing?
I haven't seriously lifted weights in like five years, op, and I've gone through a few times of starving, and then becoming chubby, and then starving over those 5 years, then I started doing stomach vaccums. I'm at like 5ft10in. and 150.4 lbs don't look too bad, gonna hit my ribs with corset training, and add in some hip and glute exercises to see what we can get to. I think there's hope but you've got to be really patient and put the work in.
>>43258978low protein low calorie deficit, blast retatrutide if you have you, i think your goal atm should be for a twinklike physique as a base
>>43259627like 2 years. i use to be 240lbs bodybuilder. >>43259649thank u i will.>>43259656ill look into retatruitidety every1 for the advice, it is very much appreciated
>>43259167MMOOOOOOODDDDS
Ugh i used to be a gym bro like you, i get the coping cycle. However, I started boymoding last year because of the political situation and I swear I accidentally fell back on old bodybuilding habits. It sucks.2 years ago I was slim (picrel) but I’ve been getting so muscular lately. Apparently my levels are fine but I’ve been working a physical job and working out a lot because it’s the only way I can make money right now and it fucking sucks.The first two years I just eat low protein, had reasonable levels and avoided upper body work. Idk what I’m trying to say, basically be careful because estrogen and low T arent enough to suppress latent muscle from regrowing if your body/mind is under a lot of stress, you’re physically active, and you eat in a surplus at all.
>>43258988The phrase "gender dysphoria" didn't even exist until I was 25, lmao.
>>43258988ipad?
>>43258970tiddymemes aside in the mid your lower ribcage and waist already look narrower (would be made fun of as a man), so>9mooh nvm you're still babby>I feel like I have to lose at least 10-12kg, 22-26lbs to get rid of the muscle but it’s at a detriment to potential fatgains.lose weight healthily (rate, food quality, physical activity sufficient to keep connective tissue loss minimal so you don't cripplemode for a decade+ like me), then weight cycle with good levels to get that fat redistro>>43259024>truamacondolences, that shit's fuckin unfair>>43261361sexo
nice boobs bro
>>43261605Yes it did, I transitioned in "late" teens in 2010 and was in trans spaces online (IRC channels) at 14 even early in the 2000s and the phrase was commonly used. Sure I got a GID (gender identity disorder) diagnosis back then, but dysphoria was a common term still outside of the medical setting. And even in it because it's what trans people would call it.
>>43258970how do you weight 20 kilos less than me, are 3cm taller and still look like you have more body fat than I have?
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>>43258970I look like this. Im 28 and been on hrt for 10 years now. Im 6"5.Im still a virginWhat do i do
