Society does not value feminine men at all. Instead, it treats them as criminals, sexually and socially.
Finally someone says it>cis married straight guy>veteran>blue collar job>pay bills, no stress in life, just enjoying everything the way i should>built like op pic>shave my legs/armpits and started pole dancing class for fun fitness, collect monster high dolls and make custom clothes for them.>everyone calls me slurs now, even wife calls me her gay little husbandSo i really have to be fully masculine all the time? Havent i proved it enough that im a man? I just want to enjoy cute shit and have fun but being whimsical is what my own family hates about me.Yes im an unc and David Bowie and Prince probably had a lot to do with this. I blame them.
>>43264998a trvke im afraid, a natural extension of patriarchy defending its self interest
>>43265488>notice the matriarchy at work oppressing men>intentionally, falsely label it patriarchy to throw off suspicionyou people are the most evil of all women are not oppressed for being feminine, only men are, misandry is the dominant social mode, misogyny is just discontent with female social control expressed by the downtrodden online
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>>43265555if being an incel is bad, then a woman's only value is her sex hole, because the worst thing a man can be is someone who lacks the prestige granted by access to said sex holewomen wish to financially enslave men, and invent various social games to enforce this, and cowardly men like you enable them
>>43265510its conservatism thats oppressing everyone. do you really think ugly butch dykes with hairy legs and armpits are treated well by society?
>>43265709conservatism is about what?preserving the family?how is a family definedby a man paying for a woman and her kidsconservatism = matriarchy enforced by men with violence
>do you really think ugly butch dykes with hairy legs and armpits are treated well by society?no, because women are homophobic, that's not a function of men or conservatism, that's again, women wanting conformity and males enslaved to women
>>43265722youre so close to getting it
>>43265722>>43265736so i guess conservative men are never to blame apparently. all ills in the world are caused by women lol>conservatism is about what?preserving the status quo, aka traditional gender roles among other things
>>43264998that's not a feminine man doe
>>43265766conservative men are to blamed for doing the bidding of females, but females originated the sentiments, and without holding them accountable, nothing will truly change
>>43265779nah both conservative men and women originated those sentiments. conservative men are way more violent about enforcing it though
>>43265798no, men would not be enslaved by women if they controlled societywomen want everything to be about worshipping wombs and protecting women and making them comfortable and safe at all times - that's what society is, protecting children so they don't get eaten by wolves you are so brainwashed by matriarchal sentiments you will never see the light and will die blindyour life would be shattered by admitting you were in fact oppressed by the females you idolize
imagine caring this much about women... sounds kinda straight kinda yikes broski
>>43265822i think you just idolize men and want to blame all your problems on women lol
>>43265844No, I've just noticed how awful women are to men and how society lets them get away with it. Women mind control men into doing violent awful things, and provoke men into violence then use it against them. Women are the essence of evil, concentrated. I cannot relax around women, knowing they use EVERY social interaction as a chance to abuse you and get you in trouble.
OP, as per usual, is an absolutely gigantic retard
>>43265876i know you're baiting but why? you trying to frame /lgbt/ as some kind of chud board with some good ol falsefagging?
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>>43264998Society might not value them but I sure do
>>43265931I'm not baiting. I think women abuse men, and most here defend the system out of fear.
>>43266029it's just the matrix bruh. wake up and assume everyone is an agent, they're not even real desu you can just ignore them and nothing happens whatsoever
>>43266077I think trannys are paid agitators to disrupt gay communities. Society is terrified of what would happen if gay people could communicate anonymously without censorship or intrusion.
>>43266107gay people aren't superstars idk what got to you they're just guys that like other guys.nothing would happen apart from a bunch of horny males talking about gay sex mostly, as evidenced by gaygen.nobody's trying to suppress you m8 you can just get a boyfriend and cuddle with him in public and never talk to a woman again in your life it's not that deep.actually you kinda sound like the one that's been reverse-counter-psy-opped by the natally female sex here
>>43264998As long as you don't have a meltdown when I call you "sir" despite your feminine outfit, I don't have a problem with it. It's only when you believe you *are* the opposite gender and insist that I play along with your fantasy that I take issue.But if you're just a guy who likes to be effeminate, that's fine by me. Had a coworker like that. He wasn't trans or even gay... just liked to wear women's clothes and express his feminine personality. I thought he was a cool dude.
>>43266172t. totally psy-opped by foidkind and will never resist the fake abusive world they have thrust us into gays are more than hyper-sexual pervertssociety fears the social integration of homosexuals into society most of anything in the world
>>43265510Patriarchy hurts women and men. Forces us both into boxes
>>43266197there is no patriarchymen don't have any control, they exist to be financial resources for women, who determine our social systems with soft powergender roles are for mentransgenderism forces people into binary boxes rather than allowing them to be gender non conforming
>>43266194>gays are more than hyper-sexual pervertsit's a sexual orientation for fuck sakegay men are not one way or another, they are men, that like men. A diverse subset of all layers of society that cannot be reduced to any more than what I already stated.If you claim gay men to be anything else than men who love men, you are a homophobic retard
>>43265779either way you agree conservatism and it's values oppresses men. regardless of who's "behind it" it oppresses them so it's bad. then you can see that it oppresses women too. also isn't the whole incel thing "stupid women not wanting men so they go work for a boss instead of slaving away at home"? even in your fantasy world clearly the women don't like "traditional values" either..
>>43264998They are gross. /thread