Where do you get started with voice training? What are the best beginner resources, and do you have any tips for babytroons?
>>43277257https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Z9HBWYVcQ&list=PLeeNHvyib3i-1u6QRW3IukFrVTJxJk733https://www.youtube.com/@TransVoiceLessonsr/transvoiceThe first video in the first playlist was a breakthrough for me after having already watched many of the @TransVoiceLessons videosDon't get stuck in the limbo of just doing vocal exercises daily infinitely, that doesn't really do anything for you, voice training is more about breakthroughs of you discovering how to make your voice sound good than training any muscles over time (although there is a bit of that)
>>43277257I skipped training and went straight to vocal surgeryhttps://voca.ro/1iHrks2WqnYI
>>43281370What's the recovery like for vocal surgery?
>>43281448I went on total vocal rest for a month which was the absolute worst part of it. I used to say if I had to lose one sense/ability or whatever, it would be to talk. Not anymore.When I started to talk again I had to relearn a few things like laughing. The scar is virtually nonexistent now, but at the time I used a neck scarf.
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>>43281370imagining my voice like sounding like this turns me on :(t. agp
>>43281370you sound bubbly, would talk shit with/10
>>43284758Inside thoughts nona
>>43281489So how much did the cost end up being? What surgeon did you go for and are there any long term side effects(Like I’ve heard it kills your ability to sing which is a dealbreaker for me since music is my hobby)
>>43284921it's an anonymous 4chan thread, sue me
>>43277257can you voice train away a tism accent or am i sentenced to forever sound like big the cat
>>43284995I’ve been on the phone with my lawyer since replying
>>43277257The Epstein School is an independent Jewish day school located in Sandy Springs, Georgia, United States.[1] It enrolls children from 18 months through eighth grade. The Head of School is Dr. David Abusch-Magder. The school has a summer camp.[2]
>>43285054does your voice sound like the vocaroo above? would i be turned on having your voice too?
>>43285074I wouldn’t be asking about vocal surgery if it did
>>43284758It’s funny because I still get in my head sometimes over my voice but I know it’s fine. Crazy how important self love is.>>43284785I don’t know if I’d say I’m bubbly but I love a good shit talk session.>>43284943The total cost for me out of pocket was like $300 I think. I had surgery with Dr James Thomas in Portland. Long term side effects… I think I’d be better at answering specific questions, but I don’t think there’s much of anything. Yeah singing to an extent, but I’m confident that if I actually trained my voice to sing, I could still do it. I just can’t sing and the surgery didn’t help at all.
>>43285119i just jerked off wishing my voice sounded like thatalso $300? fuck you i hate how easy it is for americans
>>43285145It was mostly covered by my insurance. Most cases aren’t like that.
>>43285185still, fuck you
>>43285119Sure heres some more specific questions:1) is your vocal range limited to that pitch or can you now talk higher more comfortably compared to pre surgery 2) was the recovery period painful outside of having to be mute for a month 3) if you have a cold does your voice wildly change4) I can probably guess the answer but (outside of the regular effects) is smoking even worse for your throat then before?
>>43285119idk, the way you speak is bubbly, it's cute
>>43285119>self lovelol the basically free life changing surgery did that for you
>>43285210Oh I can speak in a far higher pitch. This is just my base relaxed voice. The first few days were pretty miserable. Swallowing was a bitch and my throat felt really tight. Also the psychological impact of not knowing how I’d sound after I healed. It wasn’t instant, and even when I could talk, it was horse and took months to really “get there”. Pain wise though it wasn’t the worst after like a week.If I have a cold I just sound like me but more nasalI wasn’t warned it was any worse. I still smoke weed and (at the time) recreationally vaped after recovering
>>43285322I mean, I have to suffer by being an American where I’ll always live close to paycheck to paycheck and no future hope.>>43285277Well thank you! I don’t think my voice matches my aesthetic though
>>43285507boo hoo so are most trannies with no surgery access whatsoever
>>43285549I swear trannies are the most miserable fuckers everDo you want her to grovel for having more opportunities then you
>>43285567yes
>>43285549Ain’t that just the way>>43285567It’s fine, I’m not bothered. 4chan is just filled with these people
>>43285644well get off 4chan and live your cissoid life
>>43285507>I don’t think my voice matches my aesthetic thoughYou dont think you look cute? nonsense
>>43285782Well I’m trans and over 30 so I’m never satisfied with anything about myself.But in general, I know there’s a lot of fear around the surgery and a small sample size of people who get it, so I like to provide my input where helpful or wanted.
>>43285903Holy pass
>>43285903of course it's a passoid
>>43285960Tbhon by the time the Mtf is willing to do invasive surgeries there’s a 90% she passes compared to the others who just do hormones
>>43285071Wait until I tell you about the Beatles' first manager
>>43285977so a luckshit as well
>>43285989Nah, I’m saying most people who put effort in pass and most who don’t will not pass
>>43285989Nah, no luck trust me. I can show you how I used to look and sound if that would make a difference. It’s not so much luck as it is constantly working on self improving however I can.I think the pendulum is swinging the other way for me too because I prefer to comfy mode more than anything.
>>43285903>>43286062you look cute to me. too bad you live in another continent, so no retarded talks for us, rip
>>43285449So to be clear based on what that other anon was asking—your highest possible pitch is now higher than it was pre-surgery? I get that it takes out the low range but does it actually allow you to speaker HIGHER than before?I've asked this question a few times on this board and no one ever seems to understand what I mean.
>>43285903srsoid too?
>>43286108To use gamer speak, you’re asking if my pitch cap increased? It’s hard to say. I don’t know if my literal limit went up, but I know I’m able to reliably hit that upper range pretty effortlessly whereas before I’d struggle to do less than where I am now.My limit limit is a struggle>>43286170Not yet, by choice. I’m considering it more and more by the day though
Kinda nervous posting my voice buthttps://vocaroo.com/16z8pV6vQp1b>>43277257Basically just talking like a girl 24/7 and listening back to it helps the most. Other than that, I think listening to a voice you like and trying to imitate the cadence and pronunciation of words is helpful.Was considering VFS but it kinda spooked me.
>>43281370i thought surgeon didn't take patients unless they already tried (and failed) voice training
>>43286267You sound fantastic, you don’t need it imo. VFS is only spooky on the surface. It’s not that bad, trust me!>>43286350Huh, never heard that. I don’t think I was ever asked. If I was then I probably just said I didn’t want to cause damage by doing it wrong.
>>43277257>>43280155
https://voca.ro/15XKGSt61CcDHow's my voice?
>>43287177Not quite there yet, sorry. It’s got real potential though and I see the vision
>>43287319What would you do to improve it?I'm nasally because I broke my nose when I was 8.
>>43277257unironically watch girl voice trolling how to videos.then once you can do that learn to raise your larynxthen once you can do that read thishttp://lena.kiev.ua/voice/then once you can to that just practice practice practiceworry about pitch once your resonance is goodalso ofc practice all throughout to get used to speaking in a feminized voicesinging is good for building vocal strength and getting comfortable and higher stress levels, like working out.I wouldn't get too hung up on trying to figure out the best way to learn and just focus on practicing. As someone who's learned guitar and learned japanese. I wasted god awful amounts of time watching videos ABOUT learning guitar or ABOUT learning japanese instead of just sitting tf down and doing it.here's what I sound like right nowhttps://voca.ro/1ch6jUEQrW30
>>43287423Literally just keep using it and getting more comfortable with your pitch. It takes tone but you’re on the right track
>>43287550don’t believe this usershe uses an ai voice changer
>>43288291What do you mean by tone? Here's a recording I did of my voice pre voice training.
>>43288356>>43288906Forgot link https://voca.ro/1caFMAm4Jeu3
>>43288906"toan" is a literal meme in guitar bc of how useless and directionless a term like tone is lol.to give some directionone issue seems to be more with the resonance, the oral/laryngeal space is too large/open. I would say practice makes perfect for this one, specifically raising your larynx more and try also "pulling it back" if that makes sense. make sure you aren't straining as on top of hurting your vocal chords, will also just make your voice sound more strainedyour pre and post training voice are both nasally so I won't point that out but bc many people do unintentionally make their voice nasally when trying to sound feminine it comes across as clocky, so kinda just unlucky there.Your pitch is is a good place, but you have heavier voice, in the sense that it's very "buzzy". I personally never fully understood that aspect of voice since my voice was lighter before training anyway but from what I understand trying to more conciously use your head voice helps. what I try to do is try to envision my voice coming from between my nose and lips then flowing out through my mouth.those are the main things i noticed.Your progress so far great and sounds awesome that lifes going well for you rn
My average pitch is 237 HzAm I doing it right?
>>43281370Omg. Who was your surgeon?? Please tell me more information!!
>afab>2 natty voice drops (might have ncah or sth)>5 years of t (didn't do much atp but like it's there)>15 years of voice training >REALLY successful early on but never became automatic >keep bouncing between female and male voice with little to no control over it>don't feel strained it anything i just catch myself with the wrong voice and correcting it lasts like 2 seconds >regress if anything (first few years i could just choose to sound like a moid and keep it for an hour or so)Anyone had the same issue or heard about it? I have similarly unmaskable autism (forget I'm doing body language the instant i have to do anything else like, listening to what people say to me, literally any action involving the brain), I wonder if voice low key counts as masking and it's just impossible to automate, is it more common for autists to be bad at thisThe female voice is also kinda trained before I decided to pivot into pooning rather than something I sounded originally, but like, all of them feel natural to me now, I just can't control what the fuck I'm doing
>>43288906>>43288912I was falling asleep and meant to type time.>>43289650 see>>43285119 but it was femlar with dr. James Thomas
>>43285119what documents did you have to give him?what questions did he asked you before surgery?i don't think you can answer but how would getting an appointment with him work for a foreigner?
>>43293046I didn’t give anything besides insurance information from what I remember.He mostly asked me if I tried training, what my expectations were, and talked details in how the procedure worked.I’d imagine it’s the same as a local. Call/email (if it’s the same as my experience, they operate almost only through email) and give them your info, set an appointment date, do it, etc.
>>43295084thank you for answering my questions :)how much delay was there between you first contacting them and getting the surgery done
may i pls have honest feedback?https://voca.ro/1hohX3zSw6HUhttps://voca.ro/16hzHvM8LDVn
>>43295507I think it was something like 9 months from meeting him and shaking his hand to having surgery>>43296162This passes. It’s not “hyper fem” so some people will probably disagree, but you sound like one of my cis f friends. The volume thing is a struggle. No idea what to do there. Maybe just practice bringing volume up on drives or while singing
I just recently started voice training and I've pretty quickly gotten to the point where I can stay in the female pitch range for a while. But it requires conscious effort and it sounds pretty fake. Kind of a Michael Jackson quality to it. I guess that it's just practice that will make it easier to maintain without effort, but what's the tips and tricks for making my voice sound more natural?
>>43285575this is why you're so lonely
how does my voice pass https://voca.ro/13HUEMmcFiOu
oh i didnt see this wwas a threadhttps://voca.ro/19STFXq7jhtGi will not be rating others peoples because i am a sexblind autistic transbian that thinks everything vaguely femme is a woman
>>43299340no pass but rate me bitch
>>43299350i wont because unless you literally sound like hagrid i will say yes so its pointless and youll just get mad at me for hugboxxing
>>43298951i'm lonely because i'm a disgusting agp man
