>>43278391I think so but most of them are retrooning
>>43278400in '26 it's all about detrooning to larp as failed ftm while staying on estrogen
>>43278391There are yes
>>43278412You follow the money you don’t know where the hell it’s gonna lead you
>>43278391Yah whats up
>>43278391Here. I’m an ex(?) passoid, I detransed because being trans is too much effort and I couldn’t handle the anxiety etc. It was fine at first but now that masculinisation is really hitting me I’m not so sure it was the right choice
>>43278428Which direction?
>>43278475That's why you just lazy mode instead
>>43278475>passoid>trans is too much effort??? are you retarded
>>43278391yeah i detransitioned but i wouldn't identify as a detrans person. i'm just a guy >>43278475it sounds like you're anxious either way so you might as well be anxious and on the way to looking how you want rather than anxious and getting further away from your goals
>>43278498so mtftmfigured the most common case would be the other way around
>>43278475how long have you been detransing for?
>>43278424CHAIN OF COMMAND
>>43278391my bf is
>>43278490mtftmtftm
>>43278501i dunno the statistics but i assume ftmtfs are just more vocal/prominent because the effects of testosterone are greater, beyond my nipples being slightly puffier nobody would ever guess that i transitionedwhereas a woman who was on testosterone for as long could possibly have balded slightly, gained facial hair etc
>>43278511Rolls downward like shit
>>43278519why did he detrans? did you start dating before or after he detransed?
>>43278539i started dating him before detrans, we both had pretty shitty lives and ours were improving alot when we got together, he was even passing as a girl then but kinda just realise he doesnt like it at all, much prefers being called my bf, having muscles, using his guy name. i think its like one of the few real people who were never trans in the first place, now he thinks hes AAP
>>43278548why did he transition originally and how long had he been transitioning for? how did you initially react to him detrooning? also, who tops?
>>43278563he says he was groomed into it when he was depressed, i trust him.he was on estrogen at 18 and is 21 now>how did you initially react to him detrooning?i was scared that he was repping so i very ofte looked out for him and asked and basically did everything, i offered him estrogen and blockers. but after a few months and i saw him happier i understood >also, who tops?him ofc :p
>>43278391yeah i realized estrogen is poison. it didn't do anything except give me tits and make me slow, passive and docile. it's literally the childbirth hormone, it only exists to turn females into cattle. i just take dut now.
>>43278579>he says he was groomed into it when he was depressed, i trust himWtf why are you with this person who is going around pushing transphobic narratives? Groomed? Fuck outta here
>>43278591>it only exists to turn females into cattle.wow that would totally suck huh...>>43278595i dont think hes pushing transphobic narratives, he was just unlucky.im with him because he is super nice to me and loves me alot
>>43278475retard moment
>>43278391>picrelwhen people say "reddit bisexual" this is exactly what they're talking abouteven disregarding the fact that it's literally from r*ddit
>>43278644As a femboy I want a tomboy girlfriendDoes that make me straight?
>>43278665it makes you a shallow single-faceted archetype character from a slop anime
>>43278391does it count as detransitioning if you started hrt with hope and optimism, failed miserably, and resorted to simply living as a man while still injecting hrt?
>>43278644is it still reddit bisexuality if you give yourself agamp from self inserting as the femboy
the issue i got is detrans people tend to be far right grifters. i want one to be “im detrans, but i support all trans people who don’t want to detrans”
>>43279218anon that's like. probably everyone itt
>>43278686To clarify, I wanna fuck said tomboy gfNot BE said tomboy gf
>>43278391I quit HRT for a bit after initially starting it before restarting. Have considered detransition a fair amount but honestly I don't know.
>>43278493>>43278495I did lazy mode and still passed; short hair and all of that. You don’t get rid of the anxiety, injecting is annoying af, the dating life is terrible and all of that. Detransing taught me the problem wasn’t being a tranny >>43278498Yeah>>43278503Idk, from September last year or so>>43278622Life sucks
>>43278806No that's just what life is
>>43279256He is retarded and probably a rapehon
>>43279614Do you plan on getting back on E? Or considering something like HRT Femboy?
>>43279681I think I will… dunno. Anyway I passed all the time with guy clothes and short hair, I could never be a femboy
>>43278604You two sound retarded. You are probably 22 though, so it makes sense.Not putting a space on a lot contributes to it
>>43279720Think of it less as the online femboy thing and more like, HeFABs. FtFemboys. See if that's better. Social stuff can be really complicated with internalized issues.
>>43279735hes 21 and im 19 :p
>>43279903Do you have a plan if he decides to retransition?
>>43279911fine by me, i love him inside and out
>>43279827Uhm what does that mean
>>43278412this is me
>>43278475Literal retard
>>43279929based>>43279950So, not partaking in the cultural trappings of a traditional femboy, but instead embracing the cultural trappings of fakepoons. Basically just be a woman with he/him pronouns.
>>43280910Based not gonna lie>>43280880Am I? Men will never be real women anyway, and tbf I’m also ashamed by how disgusting most trannies are with their weird, coomer-ish look or their lowkey retarded/childish behaviour and discussions. Being a tranny is a curse but the “community” doesn’t make it any better
>>43281577they're not you, you let embarrassment over others push you into making a decision that's probably gonna be pretty bad for you and like you could've compromised somewhere or put more forethought into it in some way but you didn't and if you're masculinizing and feeling bad about that you're probably gonna crack again but manlier this time and look just as busted as the people you hate so much, so what was that decision even for?
>>43278665Yes. Regardless of perspective as well.Either you are both your birth sex, in which case you are straight, or you are the product of your gender representation, in which case you are also straight
>>43278391I thought I was going to detrans in 2023 but it turns out it was just horrifically low self esteem and ocd. Now Im all surged up and gonna be an husstuss princess for everrrr
>>43281577Are you androphilic or gynephilic? Maybe the path to salvation is wifemoding to a bichad.
>>43278391yeah soon
>>43279637
>>43278475if you are attracted to men, do you think if you were in a loving, stable long term relationship, you would have remained a tranny? assuming your bf is straight too
>>43283163Yes>>43282674I don’t know nor I do care >>43281679I just detransed for less than a year, it’s fine. It’s a bad choice csuse I won’t be happy anyway, but I guess I can just sing golden under the shower feeling like a pwetty princess
>>43286039A partner could help fix your brain
>>43286093Idk, I don’t know if I’m ready for a relationship. I’m too insecure and shit, and guys tend to be too simp-ish and nice (or “bad boys” in the cringe way) for my taste
>>43286212How old are you? Guys tend to get better in their mid-20s.
>>4328679525
>>43286817Okay date a man. Bichad preferably.
>>43286826Faggots are too effemminate…
>>43286844Bichads are not.
>>43286844no nothe guys that fuck trannies are categorically bi but act straight except for the ones that steal your estrogen
>>43278391>>43278412"Detransition" is a hoax. I believe you meant to refer to something called "Christian self-denial delusions". They always end up having a mental breakdown and transitioning later, however.
Im detransing because I convinced myself that theyfabs would like me more if I was able to have sex and make children
>>43287280Christian self-denial delusions is still less cringe than being a tranny
>>43288235>Christian self-denial delusions is still less cringe than being a trannyAn unfortunate truth
>>43288235>>43288299I'm gonna let ancient Romans explain why Christian self-denial delusions are cringe and pitiful, actually. And no, embracing the seed gender dysphoria handed you to become a unique type of person isn't anywhere close to that. It's a lot, lot higher up spiritually, because you aren't suffocating yourself.
>>43279614If you actually passed then going back to your natal sex would be immediately and very obviously worse than remaining transed.
>>43289485I craved simplicity, normalcy and happiness. I got none of that really, nothing really changed but I don’t like my look even though I look okay as a guy
>>43278475>It was fine at first but now that masculinisation is really hitting me I’m not so sure it was the right choiceThis was what happened to me just retroon for me personally when the masculinization restarted I had a lot of panic attacks and knew I fucked up
>>43278475Also for all the girls saying retard moment all the youngshit passoids I know irl have tried this it is surprisingly common
>>43290382Usually they are way prettier and with a small body so they don’t lose much. I will have to laser again for example. Still, yeah idk it’s just that who would want to be a tranny if they can help it? It sucks either if u pass or if u don’t >>43290376Yeah I’m getting there to be fair . It’s not panic attacks now but I feel… weird?
>>43290413You should get back on hrt ASAP I thought because I passed and dysphoria was gone I could stop and you seem like you're in the same scenario.I didn't laser again but I'm super blonde and have never had any facial hair removed so no clue if that got worse I did get some more chest hair though and that set me off and got me to restart hrt
>>43290424I ordered the E but it will take at least two more weeks so idk
>>43290424laser is so annoying if you don't have dark hair, I'm a ginger so it doesn't really work on me much, prob gonna have to save up for electrolysis to solve itI've been detransistioning for the past few weeks now but I'm not sure if I'm gonna regret it or not, I genuinely don't know wtf I am, why tf does everything have to be so confusing, I know I'm probably going to end up panicking again over this
>>43290747Im gonna be straight with you if you had dysphoria and its subsided while you were on hrt, I'd not do this you're making a dumb mistake. Also lucky that you're ginger i wish I was a traditional ginger im just a strawberry blonde covered in freckles>>43290439Good :)
>>43290424Had you... never heard that HRT is a for life treatment? That is weird, I thought it was a well-known fact but I guess it is not.One of my high school teachers stopped HRT at around 45 because she thought ''well, cis women get menopause around this age and have lower estrogen so I should too''. We'll have to wait for trannies to be older to see if she was right.
>>43290999It's just now that I've been on it for a few months I think I might just prefer being a gay man even though the hrt did made me feel better, I've struggled with this part of myself ever since puberty and it's just wtf is wrong with me, I think I might go back on it soon but like I do think I need to see if being some fem gay man is better for me than going full trans, I'm sure I'll be fine if I went off it for like a month or two to see, I'm not even twenty yet so I'd still have time if this whole crisis is just me being stupidAlso thanks, I barely have freckles since I'm barely out in the sun but I don't want to sound too prideful when I say this but I think my shade is pretty good, it's more like a dark red than a light orange so I'm pretty grateful I at least got that going for me lol
>>43291120>Had you... never heard that HRT is a for life treatmentOfc i know that but at the time my mind was im fine i don't feel dysphoric i can be normal now. So I went through madically detransitioning without doing it socially thankfully so when i stopped being a retard it was take my pills again.Other youngshits I've known that have done this did similar and most of them did it post srs>>43291248If you're saying hrt made you feel better you sound like you should continue and you're just scared but ultimately it's up to you I'm just trying to speak from my experience cause I did my detrans phase like 3 years ago, and I transitioned like 15 years ago, I'm not new to any of this.
>>43291906it did and yeah you're right, I'm probably just scared of going infertile desu so I am saving up to actually get that stuff frozen so I don't end up regretting it, I was like four months in and panicked when I noticed I had some actual breast growth which I guess is kinda funny? I'm pretty new to the hrt stuff even though I've known I had problems with this for a long time, why does everything need to be so hard :(
atp i'm not even sure of my gender anymore but several times a year I'll do a "I'm not sure about this anymore" when E injection time comes and then immediately regret it as soon as any remasculinization effects hit
>>43278391it was over for me before it even began
>>43292002I don't really get saving stuff in my mind why would I want to be a kids dad. And yeah it's all hard but it's worth it when you get through there are honestly so many days of my life now where I don't think about being trans I'm just a cis woman
>>43292271Cowardly girl take your shots
>>43293336I think of it less as me being someone's dad and moreso me just having my own kids, I really wanna have a family in my future so it's pretty important to me, not that adoption is something I wouldn't do too but I would prefer to do it after I had oneI have a lot of internalised transphobia desu but I really already explained how confusing and hard this is for me I think, I would've loved it if I could've just been born a girl but there's just days where I like being a boy too, it's really something I need time to think about or well, till I freak out over remasculisation in a few weeks
>>43287280(((Epstein))) is linked to Bannon, Musk, Trump, and /pol/ major anti-trans figures and hubs. They have drafted, funded, and enacted anti-trans legislation whilst propping up detransitioners like the "Hamas made me detransition" lady. Some interesting coincidences
>>43287280So you're saying that the detransition is motivated by prioritizing self-denial rather than following instinct, or evidence of transition's benefit?
