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no matter how much medication i take, no matter how much effort i put in, no matter how much surgery i get, it'll all be for nothing
even if i luck out with fat redistribution, breast growth and get srs, i don't think i'll ever be happy

my breasts won't ever nurture a child, my hips won't ever be used in childbirth, my stomach pouch will protect a uterus that isn't there
no, all these features are pure mimicry, something designed to trick men into being attracted to a body that can never ever give them children, no matter how much i want to

i don't know what i can do, now. all i ever wanted was to be a mother and the best i'll get is raising kids that aren't mine and playing pretend like a warbler raising a cuckoo
all i can have in life is just hedonism: pointless sex, a career that goes nowhere, and stringing together enough distractions to keep me from killing myself

is this how infertile cis women feel, too? at least they're people worthy of sympathy in the public eye, while we're just objects to be used and discarded and as a fun experiment. in the eyes of the public, our lives are over once we take the first dose, we're no longer people. we become a statistic, a political tool, people to put in prison to placate criminals

i don't know how to live anymore, but i never learnt how in the first place
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>>43278597
>all i ever wanted was to be a mother
tough luck nigga, you're a moid. it's time to grow up now.
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>>43278597
sorry to hear that honey
Tuck yourself snug in bed, I will join you soon after
Love you
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Testicular torsion already made me infertile. It happened to me as a kid so it's sometimes hard to remind myself that the HRT didn't take away my future family, it was already stolen.
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>>43278597
Girl look at the world around you..you do not want to bring more humans into the world right now. I really can't recommend letting something like this mess up your mental health when procreating is the last thing you should be wanting to do right now. The world is fucked.
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>>43278597
yeah you can't express your inherent creative drive on easy mode like normies can
that's what making art is for
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>>43278619
how heartless, thanks
>>43278652
i'm sorry
>>43278668
how dare i want to fulfill one of the most basic human desires. i hate anti-natalism so much, it's a retarded ideology that's a product of the modern world through years of govt brainwashing. sorry i'm so selfish for wanting a family, Christ.
>>43278669
i should pick it up instead of bedrotting all day but i hate feeling incompetent
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>>43278597
you are pathetic
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>>43278597
> Unlucky, barren
Your husband is lucky to have you nona
He wouldn't have found love elsewhere when everyone spites him for his attraction to gynandromorphs (it isn't his fault)
You are uniquely made for each other, forget about being barren, your husband is out there
he would be a very lucky man if you found each other, and him finding his queen alone would satisfy his desire for a family (think about it he is dying alone otherwise)
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>>43278715
Shut the fuck up shitstain
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>>43278705
>one of the most basic human desires
Yeah basically if you want to breed just because "me grok, grok make baby" then I definitely don't respect that and it sounds selfish and stupid for sure
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>>43278597
>is this how infertile cis women feel, too?
probably some of them. but not all afabs want or care about having kids.
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>>43278718
Okay, maybe you are right, cuckoo girl
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>>43278597
a lot more to being a human than procreation. you realize this when you're an adult.
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>should we make a better world so that even anti natalists begrudgingly admit it's fine to make babies?
>No, let's get angry at the people who point out that we live in a world that is shit for raising children,.and blindly pop out babies just because we feel like it
Idiocracy is coming
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>>43278711
wanna tell me something i don't know?
>>43278715
being with a man who wants me to be a 'gynandromorph' would be hell
>>43278729
no, i want to raise my own children to be positive impacts on the world, what's so selfish about that? do you think every person in history was an egocentrist?
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>>43278735
holy shit how do people see a post where i doom about not being able to experience one of the greatest pleasures of life and immediately jump to me being a retard that doesn't know there's more than *just* having kids
>>43278737
you think sitting around and not having children will make the world better?
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>>43278597
Big same op. Im just waiting to die now. Ignore the faggots and doomer transbians they have no maternal instinct and cant relate
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>>43278742
Sorry then I guess maybe you will find true love somehow Nona?

Until then if you dress up, and are of good character you are definitely ahead of 80% of cis women
Kids can only have 1 biological mother, and once they lose her they would give anything to have a new mom (you)
Else they are gonna be motherless
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A fine blackpill for the night
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>>43278755
>holy shit how do people see a post where i doom
sorry i thought u might be a person i know and i did a hail mary. sorry. you may contuine with your dooming. sorry.
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Fuck shit fuck
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>>43278769
thanks for letting me know i'm not alone, i'm so sorry
>>43278788
it's okay
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>>43278852
Same to you. I hope you find some other comforts that make things bearable.
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>>43278705
I'm really sorry for you. They don't seem to get it but I see how horrible this must be.
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>>43278597
just be a good aunt so you have heirs
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>>43278992
i can try, but my only brother is basically an incel
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Do what i do when im depressed and blast Good news by Mac Miller. Never was there a more beautiful suicide note then that song
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>>43278597
This is sad, I don't know how to feel about this. It's best you don't think about it too much.
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>>43278597
Personally I'd like to look like a woman but still impregnate women
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>>43279496
If you cant relate to this you're fake trans and should be euthanized. If you can you are true and should also be euthanized but with pity
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>>43279536
I can empathize and wish all girls who want to have functional womb and ovaries to genuinely have them, at the same time I'm just different
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>>43279496
ew
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>>43278597
you can raise kids as a father but no, you decided larping as a woman was more important than the actual raising of a child. wrong attitude for a parent to have.
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>>43278597
why the fuck do people need bio children lmao as if your tranny genes are worth propagating (am also tranny)
be happy you never have to through the body horror that is pregnancy tbdesu
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>>43278597
Just fucking date a divorced dad retard
You can still be a mother to someone
Biology is meaningless
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>>43278597
>>43278705
I’m sorry to hear that, nona. Even though I’m an anti-natalist. You’re experiencing a fundamental human instinct that you can’t simply dismiss by an act of will.
As a pessimist, I won’t pretend that there’s a solution to your predicament or even consolation to your anguish, but you have my sympathy.
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>>43278597
Not really my genetics are fucking trash lol idc about the lame gay ass introspection of life i just want to be the most beautiful tranny i can be then maybe get into a relationship adopt some kids and live and die a step mother and a wife or just be a teacher who loves her students dearly
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>>43278597
yeah
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>>43280740
my genetics suck too desu. a lot of the pain i'm describing just stems from the feeling adopted children would never truly be 'mine'. if i didn't disagree with the practice i'd probably be fine if my kids were my husband's but not mine through surrogacy
>just be a teacher who loves her students dearly
i'm planning to be a teacher too, i wouldn't really want anything else
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>>43280323
>body horror that is pregnancy tbdesu
this is such a modern viewpoint Jesus, as if everything has to be about staying beautiful as long as possible
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I lost sleep becouse of this thread. I was supposed to be in bed by 7
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just want to highlight that it's sterility, not infertility, btw
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>>43281024
sorry nona
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>>43278597
I cant really comment on your strugglws nona, Im sorry you're going through that, I relate to that alot.

But also holy shit that's my art and I didnt realize anyone would ever actually download my art and use it for aesthetic purposes.
Not, that anyone cares, but that's the old combinations of the sigils for stress of the mind and the linear passage of time.
It was vent art on my birthday about getting older.
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>>43280816
Real as fuck, my personal only cope is being able to adopt or hoping going off hrt for a few months would fix things.
Idk, I want to bear children for the love of my life, I want a family, maybe thats in the cards for me, I'll never know for now.
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>>43278597
I can tell you are an incel on her because you can’t imagine a woman’s life as being valuable without giving birth to children. You are a misogynist and think like a 50s abusive husband
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>>43281804
your art is really beautiful, thanks for posting it
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>>43281948
Thank you, it, honors me alot that people would save it and empathize with it so much.
All it ever was to us anyway was emotions
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>>43281925
sorry i'm just a retard who sees all women as incubators which is obviously an accurate perception of me from you reading one 4chan post where i doom about one aspect of life
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>>43278597
>get to have sex without having to worry about pregnancy
>never have to experience the pain and risks of childbirth
I see no problem here.
>best i'll get is raising kids that aren't mine and playing pretend like a warbler raising a cuckoo
That isn't "pretending". Your raising of an adopted child is just as real as any biological mothers. Fuck anyone saying otherwise.
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>>43283204
It is real, but it wont inherently have come from us. I will love that child as my own, and give them the childhood we never got to have, but I will not be able to guide them through the brain I will have passed on to them.
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>>43283204
there's always going to be an element missing, like >>43283264 said, i want to know my child would have some of my inherited traits so i can raise them as best as possible
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id sympathize but sad about infertility post number one million and one. you at least put some effort into writing lots of words though
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>>43278705
Gov doesn't want a pop crash what are you even talking abt
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>>43278779
indeed
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>>43283369
thanks, tbhon i didn't see many others
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>>43278597
>my brest won't ever nurture a child
actually I think that's one thing u can actually do
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>>43285863
it would feel strange to take a whole regimen of drugs to artificially induce lactation
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>>43285883
u already take e
it's just more hormones ur body doesn't naturally produce
take control who cares
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>>43278597
>in the eyes of the public, our lives are over once we take the first dose
If it makes you feel better, cissoid society already deems us as subhuman even if we don't transition. Imagine being a repper and telling a cissoid you experience gender dysphoria, their immediate reaction will be one of shock, horror, and disgust even if you haven't transitioned. Cissoids are subhuman animals incapable of complex thought.
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>>43285883
What kind of drugs, asking for a friend of a friend of a family figure of a distant cousin of a person on the street
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>>43285914
drugs that increase prolactin, like domperidone
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>>43285902
just feels unnatural, especially because apparently if you induce lactation like that it's not responsive to typical signals like a baby's cry, but instead random
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>>43285909
nona, trans would have those reactions even more so than cissies.
imagine hanging out with the girlies and a guy over says (s)he has gender dysphoria
>ohnonono



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