>>43292988
Good for them

I think the idea of a feminine male is just weird to normies which is why they post shit like this tbhdesu

Idk people are chill with me irl and i basically fit that archetype but im more cis gay on hrt than femboy because im a mature adult who isnt addicted to reddit (im addicted to twitter)

>>43292988
Most "femboys" are not feminine in any meaningful way. They're simply crossdressers who are more youthful and have less body hair than the stereotypical middle age male crossdressers of old.

>>43292988
the less that we have male freaks being listened to the more the zazed trvtrans asexuals will rise up (by being not noticed and fading into obscurity)

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>>43293043

>>43293055
beat me to it lmao

People don't want to admit that the "femboy" they want is actually a trans woman but without the cultural baggage of being called a trans woman

>>43292988
So gays are mad at gays looking like gays?

>>43293054
I keep telling people it's literally so simple, just go volcel for the rest of your life. at least you're not grossing out cissies that way. give up that hope of getting a sex life and do what ACTUALLY makes sense insteaad

>>43292988
the whole "femboys are more feminine than trannies" has always been a psyop. passing femboys are always either histronic women, guys taking hrt and will most likely become fullblown trannies in 2 years or already are trannies and they call themselves femboys to make money off weird bipedos who hate trannies. the REAL femboys, aka feminine men who dont take hrt have always looked like this >>43293055 and normies are starting to realize

>>43293123
These folks don't look feminine at all

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>>43293043
>>43292988
This is only because the TikTok/reddit “femboys” who don’t believe in HRT and don’t carry out cardio and skincare are the most visible.

I’m a twink (but I guess femboy works too) on HRT (since teens) and get accused of secretly being female.

I blame part of the hate on basedjaks who get mad if men look fem, especially they keep asserting they’re male.

>>43293172
cool story bro

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>>43293123
yeah this is what i meant by femboys being a fantasy and why i made the thread. when normies say "i love femboys", what they are thinking of is a trans woman who calls her self femboy to make money on pornhub or onlyfans. thus, the reaction in OP when they meet someone in IRL who identifies as a femboy, since the trans women they jerk off to identify as women

>>43293290
Is there really a market for trans women specifically not calling themselves trans women?
It's weirdly specific

>>43293339
Yes: straight men go for passing trans women who call themselves women (not "trans women").

>>43293339
There's a market for femboys who look like women with dicks. Which is often hrtfemboys/trannies who refer to themselves as such to get that bag

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All this shitting on femboys for not being feminine enough really feels bad. I know this is how you all feel about me, the masc hrt repper, in your heads.

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>>43293339
yes but you misunderstand. its a market for femboys. but because the only amab people who actually pull off femininity to the point that people register them as the femboys they know from hentai, rather than just sissies, are those who take transition seriously, that space is dominated by trans women who market themselves as femboys to make money from people who wanna see femboys. lots of trans women in porn title some of their posts as trans girl and some as femboy

>>43293399
not at all. the reason there is beef between trannies and femboys online, is because online femboys be saying that hrt is poison and that they (non-hrt cis femboys) look more feminine and cuter than us disgusting trannies, even though thats is laughable and demonstrably untrue, and the only "femboys" who actually DO look hot and feminine are generally on hrt and on their way to calling themselves women in 2 years tops. i view the hrt manmoder with pity and empathy

>>43293290
it's because to the normiechud mind a feminine man requires less moral gymnastics than a trans woman (wahh pronouns hard!). also a hot guy you can fuck in a way that appeals to the straightoid mind is more taboo and racy and sexualized than trans women. also passing is less of a barrier to femboys

i dislike femboys as much as the next girl but i understand why normies like the fantasy more

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>>43293210
Deal with it you onions consuming troglodyte!
I do not want to ever become like the devolved, bald, twink deathed gaped mouth sissies modern men like you have become.

So I’ve been on HRT all my life and do rigorous self improvement like cardio, becoming good at masc and fem skills and being a sigma twink.
The polar opposite to the numale is the hrtwink, the last hope for the male race.

>>43293536
>I do not want to ever become like the devolved, bald, twink deathed gaped mouth sissies modern men like you have become.
I passed as female at 18 without HRT because of a DSD.

>>43293558
that's really nice for you and i hope you have a nice life.

>>43293446
Like begets like, hons and numales will cluster so that’s why you know non hrt “femboys” with basedface
Since you’re man height, with a male shoulder girth, q angle and midface
> > trans women who market themselves as femboys
Those are femboys, anyone born male is allowed to claim male identity on demand and many mtfs still secretly identify more with male. If you do not respect the identify of others sir then you do not deserve yours respected either.

>>43293446
This is not about the reason you dislike femboys. It is the method of attack that reveals your true beliefs.
You’re sitting there insulting femboys for their ugly and masculine features while telling people with the same ugly and masculine features that it shouldn’t be insulting because the insult was meant for a different person.

Like come on. Obviously by insulting someone for a particular characteristic you are revealing your negative value judgement of that characteristic.

>>43293558
And now you don’t because your bones.
>DSD
Almost all have long midface. You’re horse faced Many such cases.

>>43293038
somehow taking hrt and growing out my hair for tranny reasons got women to talk to me more than anything else I have ever done

>>43293583
Why do you expect anything out of them? It’s a hon who’s online for a reason.
Or it’s possibly just a basedjak chaser but basedjaks and troonjaks are the same

>>43293590
Nope. My skeletal proportions are female-typical.

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>>43293536
>I do not want to ever become like the devolved, bald, twink deathed gaped mouth sissies modern men like you have become
It is inevitable. Pic related will be you in 5 years.

>>43293518
you make it sound like its not an insanely creepy moid fetish lmao. which is still included in normalfag but like, still

unironically it's just misogyny, and most of transphobia is more or less rooted in misogyny too. they literally just hate women. like there is no difference between femboy caricatures and just some girl except some forcibly injected gooner traits. obviously hard to explain to anyone uninformed on that specifically but still. i think the only reason it goes unnoticed is because its literally so pervasive people see it as something else

>>43293573
fucking hate these dysgenic barely literate schizos. get them the fuck off the board already im so serious. theyre the ONLY ones peddling muh heckin amab afab language and making retarded toddler posts

>>43293446
I may sound weird, but who wants to see femboys? Not twinks, not trannies

Femboys make my dick hard. I like hwo femboys look, and would even enjoy looking that way myself. No amount of crying misogyny somehow introduces women into this dynamic. I mean the number of times that misogyny is brought up as an explanation for totally unrelated things is just insane.

>>43293625
this is unrelated but god its things like this that just make me upset how little artistic ability humanity has. anyone with any modicum of it is a <1% exception atp. noone has the slightest aesthetic taste. why does it seem the only constant of reality and all history is that life is the rarest substance in the universe

>>43293583
>>43293606
i only notice things i don't like when a tranny does it too

>>43293711
Guarantee you have shit taste

>>43293619
remember when the appeal of femboys was the masculine skeleton

nobody is even a fag anymore sads

>>43293761
I would've been a fag if gay men were interested in bodies like mine.

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>>43293625
Projection
I’m immune to twink death and will keep a baby face all my life. I’m probably the most baby faced doctor in existence.

I realized something, what makes him creepy, and what your problem is, is male aging. It’s the baldness, pear shape and skin coarsening. That’s also what basedjak embodies.
So that path has long been aborted. Now all left to do is exercise and stuff to keep regular aging at bay.

Seriously though, fuck your for messing with my head basedjak. I have had a visceral reaction against using makeup or female clothes even when others suggest it and keeping long hair and it’s your brainwashing that melted my brain.

>>43293829
your facial structure is still obviously male. haircare + skincare + shaving != female-passing.

bad energy itt

I wish a very painful twinkdeath to all transphobic femboy scum

>>43293849
I keep my hair short and let my eyebrows run thick. What makes you think I’m even trying to? Stop projecting.
And anyways I’ve been accused of being ftm irl and online and it’s only gotten more common as the age body mismatch rises. But whatever, minor issue.

>>43293886
I need hrt along with the rest of my regimen to survive and should be on the same side as you but you call me hateful for refusing to wear a dress and for clinging to maleness and that’s not right or fair.

>>43293339
femboy fans are either people who want a trans woman but hate trans women too much to ask for one or porn addicts who think their animu traps are real. so yes, ive known countless trans women who call themselves femboys to make money off those weirdos

>>43293886
what about transphilic fem twinks

>>43293829
you are a cute little munchkin but not quite a twink maybe its just potato cam but you lack twink aura. maybe need to smile or look sassier

>>43293896
>I've been accused of being ftm irl!!!
Yeah, you're clearly AGP. You're taking HRT not because you're an extreme sexual invert but because you have a fetish for feminizing your body and being perceived as female by others.

>>43292988
I mean some of them are straight up fraudsters, they use angle-fraud, lens-fraud, lighting-fraud, and even filters sometimes.... but I've seen really pretty men IRL before, it's just quite rare. LIke I maybe only see a pretty man once every other year.

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>>43294009
Yep.

>>43294009
where are you from

>>43294028
brvtal

>>43294033
SW USA, why?

>>43293969
>>43293886
The irony is that if bitterhons on 4chan hadn’t portrayed transitioning as a moral failing and all transitioners except them as monstrous (see >>43293625) there’s a decent chance that I would’ve listened when friends tried to get me to troon.
But I didn’t since they made makeup, long hair and women’s clothes seem creepy and predatory and since being a twink (on hrt) seems noble and pure.

And now the whole world is mad and I’m bad for asserting my maleness. Why? I’m a little guy trying to make it in a man’s world.

Well if you are entirely straight you really shouldn't be messing around with femboys anyways, I like them because of their androgyny.

the femboy thing is fascinating because while trans women have always existed in some form, femboys can only exist because of the internet because its a place where you can exist in a partial and carefully curated way, you can use face filters and anglefraud and only show what you want others to see. i think it gives everyone a false impression that there are boys out there that just look like girls, and its not true except in some extreme cases.

>>43294028
good example here of how easy it is to make yourself look feminine in a picture, but then the reality is you just look like an average guy but with long hair and no beard

>>43294056
Honestly I'm on HRT, and I still hate the trannies here lol. We must be a different wave of tranner. The old guard was pretty much turbo autists who have being quirky and woke as pillars of their gender affirmation.

>>43293998
I never smile. It’s a law.
> not quite a twink
Mfw
Something is wrong and I never developed a fallback identity. I can pretend to be confident and upbeat it’s just I need Valium and a fix by now.
> munchkin
I actually kind of wish I could be taller
Guess this proves I’m not a trans woman
>>43294075
It’s the other way around twinks and femboys (basically twinks but having messed with their bodies) have existed since civilization. Castrati singers are their - note they identify as male usually. In some civilizations they were the administrators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuchs_in_the_Byzantine_Empire

>>43294075
I swear I look pretty and cute from my front profile even irl, but it does fall apart fast when my side profile is visible irl.

>>43294028
There also much more candid pics and footage of him at cons though, it's not that bad, that's just a particularly bad photo.

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>>43294153
hrt femboy (tranny in denial) next to a cis female
same with almost all trannies

>>43294161
Why would you expect a femboy to look exactly like a woman? Why would you even want that? The only type of people that desire that are guys that can't get women, but think that getting a tranny is easier. F1nn is hot because he is a feminized male... lmao

>>43294161
i always forget how honnish finn's frame is

>>43293948
you forgot the third type of femboy
the type of person who wishes they were a trans woman and instead become transphobic due to their jealousy

>>43294054
just curious
it seems like since late 2024 with trump winning theres a lot less feminine males and gays/queers around nowadays here too (florida)

>>43294176
I atleast try to redpill those ones into realizing that most femboys are on HRT, so they don't wall due to being too based.

>>43294161
i have the exact same issue, his problem is that a male face juts outwards, so when he takes a picture of himself, he angles it and gets the focal length so that it isnt visible and his features look flat. its sad because it just passes on the body dysmorphia to somebody else

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>>43294138
I forgot the Mfw photo

>aren't feminine men disgusting nona?
staying in /repgen/ forever fuck you niggers

>>43294185
Eh whatever I held the line, I don't care what the average american things, framing femininity through a western lens is always a cringe fest comprised of reality tv show bimbos and baby making slaves.

>>43294188
that's pretty based but you also have to redpill them to stop using the term femboy
it's pure goonerslop terminology based on anime
>>43293829
this is just a twink
it's fine to be twinkish but don't be transphobic

>>43293290
femboyism is cancer but also I've never seen someome post this image that wasn't unpassing (behaviorally or otherwise) and/or obese

>>43294205
Look I try to do what I can, I try to put them onto visual kei artists and lolita, so they can move beyond amazon thigh-highs. But honestly there's only a select few worth investing in like that. It's funny I'm in this femboy discord, and I mentioned how a certain femboy trooned out, and this absolute sub 5 goblin went on a tirade about trannies even though everyone at the femboy convention mogged him.

>>43294096
I think a lot of them, especially in the past were literally just bitterhons. Caucasian genes seem to lead to really fast development idk, so it was hons with folders of bigger hons spamming them and frying the brains of others.

It kind of sucks that I had extreme BDD in the past so I took all their schizo photos as a warning and thought if I so much as let my hair get too long I’d become that.

and it’s only after I committed to being male that I’ve realized (from others noting) stuff like oh, I’ve got unusually narrow shoulders and compact hands for a man. Which is not going to help me but interesting considering I thought I was a huge massive bear in my youth. 4chan bitterhons are poison and should be kept away from anorexics or dysmorphics.
> tranner
Pls no
I’m a twink
Which is a similar but different thing

the only irl experience i've had with this is with two male gen-z coworkers that at different times have made "jokes" about wanting a femboy.

>>43293153
thats the point

>>43294205
I AM a twink
And I’m not transphobic. I need medicine to stay alive and support your right to medicine and your identity so long as you respect mine.

Go blame the hons spamming rape hons >>43293625 if anything they make people transphobic by telling others everyone except them looks like that. They also literally scare twinks into thinking long hair let alone makeup or cross dressing is unethical.

>>43294202
based! femininity comes from within

>>43293038
I think the meme and OP aren't saying people are hostile to femboys, but rather when they meet one IRL rather than carefully posed twitter photos they realize they are definitely still a man.

>>43294264
I joined a 4chan discord server off of /soc/, and I literally got thrown out by the tranny mod owner after I posted myself and her discord friends started calling me hot, then I told them I wasn't on hrt (which was true at the time), and she went nuclear and threw me out.

>>43294264
I will respect how you identify twink. Have a nice day!

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>>43294003
>bitterhon projection
I actually do not know what I am. Perhaps that’s true.

But I do know my motivation is I like having a baby face, I like my body’s neoteny and I just really don’t want to catch baseditis.

I hate how male aging makes men get bald, pear faced and gape mouthed with huge waists. And they also usually have whiny weak personalities and are helpless. They’re like cows.
I’m a fox or some other small carnivore.
Also the reason being mistaken for ftm doesn’t bother me is because I told you my aesthetic depends on neoteny and that’s a sign my aesthetic is intact.

You seem to be mad that there are men who refuse to look like this.

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You guys just aren't gay enough and it shows.

>>43294395
what does this drawing of a woman have to do with anything?

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>>43294395
My honophobia (brainwashed by 4chan) makes me see any beared man in a dress or even just an obviously male guy in clothes like that as a hon and creepy. Like these kawaii bald men in dresses - brain files them as sex offenders and hons
I’m not trans btw.

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>>43294409
That’s a man
Note the long midface and broad bones

>>43294458
I hope you're merely pretending

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>>43292988
Zoomers wont believe this but it used to literally only be women that got tricked by anglefrauding and photo editing. Men are experiencing a generational fall off, on god.

>>43294469
I’m not
My brain melted and I’m hyper focused on such things.

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Crossdressing men are peak, feminine men are peak. I wish mana was my wife...

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>>43292988
uh oh, not true!!! join the femboy server! they're HRT assisted but who cares!!!!

https://discord.gg/gejUmDBzMG

>>43294469
>too retarded to realize the adams apple.

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>>43294514
this is a cis woman
femboys aren't real

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>>43292988
whaaaat you mean the universality of snapchat filters and obvious body dysmorphia was a sign that all is not as it seems? if only there had been some kind of community conversation around this, maybe on an imageboard, before all of this happened!

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>>43294526
They don't exist :(

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>>43294526
I use myself (a male) as the threshold for male.
Anyone with less neoteny, a bigger midface a bigger Addams apple (I don’t even have one) than me gets filed as male.
Ergo while technically female sex, in morphology that is a male. With bitchtits but whatever I have those and am male. Also technically have an elevated q angle but men can have those too.

I need mana so badly, I would anything, I just want to hug him, or hold his hand, I have never seen such a beautiful man before.

>>43294496
nigger can you approve my application, I want to check this place out.

>>43294235
>Caucasian genes
ngl I think 99% of the problem is those caucasian genes brutalizing and mindbreaking white tranners, because a good chunk of them would've had to troon out in like early highschool to have even had a chance.

>>43294720
womb to tomb

I’m probably going to die when I can no longer twink mode ngl. And I know time is not on my side.

What do you do when you look ahead and see doom?
I think Mishima went though the same thing and his way out was have his head cut off

>>43294720
what does being white have to do with it

passing shouldnt be much harder than if you were born any other race

also holy this thread is literally the femboy vs trans woman wars well not really cause most of the cute femboys are either cis or trans women larping alone

so really more like gay twinks v everyone else

>>43295378
? just be a man on hrt

is this not what people in this thread have been arguing about

twink death is really the test for some people(are you really ok being a normal man?)
not to say anyone who is deathly afraid to not be a twink anymore is a trans women but a significant amount are solely bc the gates of twink death close as soon as you walk through them

>>43295440
Please no
By that logic I should just quit taking it
The only type of shell that is comfortable is twink.

>>43295422
low iq

>>43292988
It’s like when people say they like women. They like *attractive* women. Males are less feminine than females by default, so most femboys will be unattractive. Which are just porn addicts, anyway.

>>43295422
Caucasoids are high latitude and high latitude animals tend to be bigger
Compare grey wolves and red wolves.
Western diets also tend to cause earlier puberty and increased size.

Also some phenotypes like Asian tend to be smaller and more neotenous, especially if they didn’t get western diet so one of them at 19 might be in better (troon)shape than a white guy in America

>>43293153
The one in the middle with the saturated blue t-shirt has potential if he knew fashion better. Ironically, he's the one that looks uncomfortable.

>>43293399
Yeah, libtards do this a lot I've noticed. When brought up, they usually deflect and take no accountability.

>>43292988
Femboys only appealed to straight men with a fetish

Actual gay and bi men like masculine guys

>>43293055
Where's the fem part

>>43297624
What they're wearing is fem.

>>43293536
ppanon?

Cis women>Trans women>>>>>>>>>>>Femboys

>>43293055
>nova rock

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>>43292988
There are plenty of good quality femboys at cons, I meet them and fuck them a couple of times a year. You need to go somewhere where the gayboy closet cases have an excuse to doll up, otherwise you're just dealing with autistic cryptotrannies.

Yes femboys are retarded but all of you are one bad haircut and zero makeup away from looking like shit as well. We're all frauds and ugly, no more sibling wars.

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im trans and on hrt and ambivalent about pronouns and everyone that wants to fuck me just calls me a femboy and its like whatever floats your boat as long as you like me.

>>43297602
cis women with fetish like femboys too

idk but I always feel like I just look like a twink irl which I hate
Ive always felt like all my photos of me were just achieved by angle frauding, like I feel like I just look like a dude irl
but like alot of the ppl ive met say that I look pretty
one older woman I fucked said that I looked "petite" idk what she meant by that but like 30 mins later she asked for my id and kept accusing me of being underage

then there was a man who said I didnt pass just judging from what he saw from pictures of me
then we met in person and he said I didnt pass and that I looked like a man, he raped me anyways tho

there were many other cases of ppl saying I was very physically attractive and passing but that I could get clocked as male by my fashion sense (I just wear a shirt and jeans)

thats always been a great worry for me, like I dont know how I really look

also sowwy for the wordy post

>>43297666
Who?

>>43299215
ppanon?>>43293172

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>>43293399
>>43297464
>libtards
I noticed the trend. Note the bait and switch where they hate on twinks and use Reddit/twitter non hrt femboys to prove they’re ugly.

But then you dig down and realize they reserve most of their hate for hrt femboys (despite claiming to white knight mtfs to show they’re not bigots). They literally say if you’re male and you’re “feminine” you’re only allowed to be a balding bearded man in a dress.

Ask yourself why liberals hate physical androgyny and want men to be forced to look like ugly twink deathed men? Literally if you’re male and you don’t look like a disposable drone you’re a threat.

Genuinely it’s weird as hell to say but the groypers have been way more open and tolerant since it make it clear it’s just my weird twink ways and I’m not imposing on them while my leftist ex friends called me hateful for just being a twink.

>>43299272
This was not supposed to happen

>>43299296
im the vp9 tranny, wadup

>>43299305
In the middle of an existential crisis and stomach bleed but otherwise okay.
> vp9
I can’t recognize modern guns halp
Thank god I ran into one of the good anons here instead of the angry psychos because I know they wouldn’t let this go.

>>43299338
well yeah don’t worry about it, most the guys in hg are fucking retards. what happened to your shtummy? hk vp9a1f anon, i posted it once before i knew who shitbin was. i think i complemented your hands once

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>>43292988
>normies have found out about the femboy trend and are confused that femboys irl mostly look weird

who would've thought?
inb4 twinks are the real femboys, every "femboy" is either a crossdresser, tranner, (hr)twink (based) or a young gay male, sissy or agphon (cringe)

>inb4 anons itt who have never touched grass to see an actual femboy twink that doesn't look atrocious
they exist just not for you basement dwellers lololol

>>43299420
> (hr)twink
it originally was this, or like a euphemism. It just spread to Reddit and other places and got used by different people. Which sucks.

>>43299369
There are a couple of very aggrieved people there. I like hiding the med stuff, it’s a giant can of worms and usually doesn’t matter.
>hands
Ty
> what happened
Stupid enough to take metformin (for biohacking reasons) on top of my usual med stack along with wine as a sleep aid and regretted it within minutes.

>>43299497
that sounds terrible for your stomach! i hope you feel better.

>>43299420
femboy culture was literally born out of 8chs /cuteboys/ board though, and the spat they had over "trannies grooming us into becoming women"

its a bastard child of twink and trap culture that got effectively taken over by bisexuals and straight boys and ossified into this weird amazon sissy uniform culture.

>>43293172
ok tranny

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>>43294003
hell naur not the heckin autogynephilerinoo!!!

im abt to detroon into something femboy adjacent i kinda need the culture to be on their side

>>43300951
whos side

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>>43293055
>german
well there's your problem

>>43299286
Libtards tend to be more in touch with their emotions. Which sounds like a good thing, until you realise emotions are prompted by the ego. Which means it can make you act very narcissistically. The ego isn't always bad, but when it perceives a social threat, it vilifies it. It also makes self-awareness harder, as there's no disconnect for one to analysis their emotions from an objective-oriented perspective.

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>>43294191
>its sad because it just passes on the body dysmorphia to somebody else
damn, that's kind of deep

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>>43294352
>I hate how male aging makes men get bald, pear faced and gape mouthed with huge waists. And they also usually have whiny weak personalities and are helpless. They’re like cows.

My manager at work fits this to a t. He's also married with kids, is a literal Disney adult, and never works out.

The root issue is men being lazy and not taking care of themselves because society tells them all they need in life is a wife, McMansion, and a white collar job. Once they get those things around 35-45 years of age, they don't have the psychological fortitude to pursue anything else with their lives. Or they just realize what a fraud the masculine role is. either way, I understand, but every man who realizes this doesn't troon out. Some of us get divorces, become monks, write a novel, or something else that's actually productive.

>>43293172
ppanon, r u kill?

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>>43300238
>>43302269
I’m better today, still have stomach cramps and my lymph nodes hurt which is weird but it’s better than yesterday.
>>43301801
This begs the question: why would a cow-like presumably straight man feel fear and loathing toward biohacking twinks? (I know the reason I don’t like numales is because they’re a shadow archetype/cautionary tale)
>>43300360
Fuck you im a cis twink and I’ve never even crossdressed reeeeeeee!
>>43301875
It’s weird because I’m male but always had the avoid decline, be good and not get gross instinct very strongly and it’s probably not just from being a twink.
Women might have something similar but this also has the burden of males having to be competent and daring.

>>43301425
femboys

>>43304394
i wish you were feeling better pp! have you been to hg today?

>>43293055
what kind of pants is the first femboy from the right wearing? also where could I find?

>>43305017
oh i get it now

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>>43305023
No did something happen there? I haven’t been there in a while since I haven’t felt it and I know my kit is pretty bad but it’s also enough for my lifestyle.

Tangent but I’m trying that teleryx sourced pioglitazone since I tried dropping to near underweight last year but got mad since that made my hips lose roundness. It might be worth it.

>>43305558
shitbin was caught using other people’s footage claiming it as his own. also i’ve heard good things about pio for weight gain! that should help you quite a bit

>>43305966
>shitbin
I forget who he is
If it’s one of the guys who’s usually mad at me then serves him right I guess.
>weight gain
I don’t want to gain weight tho. I have the ridiculous conflicting goals of keep a razor thin waist and have enough padding on my hips for others to not call them bony.
I think it did increase my appetite slightly
Which is part the reason I was also taking metformin. I still think it’s a net gain and anyone who’s aesthetics lean feminine should try it since it’s cheap.

>>43307566
shitbin is just a cuck derailing nogunz faggot. calls most everyone a tranny (sometimes not wrong lel) and is retarded on basic firearm knowledge

>>43299286
kek I will never let some sub 5 performative male dictate how I express my femininity. They are just objectively failed men.

>>43300951
keep taking estrogen though bro, T is still a major looksmin for anyone in the prettyboy archetype

>>43293399
I don't care how fem or masc or ugly or attractive a femboy is. I will shit on all of them because their physical ideal is based off of a cartoon. Even the ones who are good at makeup. It's cringe. I do not give a fuck about a manmoder. You want to be a woman, which is a thing that actually exists!
Also this picture will never stop me from calling someone fat and/or ugly and/or retarded. Delete this shit from your phone.

>>43308382
criiiiinge

>>43300401
lol

>>43308382
so whats the better word for feminine males? i havent watched a cartoon since i was a child.

Former femboy here. Just wanted to say you can absolutely pass as female with no HRT. I'd get misgendered pretty regularly when I was younger.

>>43309352
And what about twink death?
Onions face is a curse for males.
malefailing while in men’s clothes is much better than anything in women’s. It’s the classier type of androgyny

>>43308006
I genuinely want to know why I feel fear and loathing toward them. I think it’s the twink death combined with moralism combined with them usually being cowardly and whiny.
And I went though a lot of trouble to stamp out my fear prone instincts (that are probably strong from being neutered) so it annoys me.
But mostly, it’s his shilling bearded balding men in dresses as the only non problematic way to be a feminine man. (Btw proves his claiming to white knight mtfs is a lie since he can’t tolerate anyone born male not looking like a basedjak)
>>43308019
Basically
I feel bad for twink enjoyers who don’t realize half of long term twinks are probably covering up tits

Honestly all the confidence is fake and I’m in a constant panic over the future but whatever.

>>43293102
truke

>>43309672
just look at late transitioner former bodybuilder to mtf pipeline and you can see that twinkdeath is very reversible / prolongable considering you wont go that far. and as you get older you will be attracted to older men and you will look younger and younger in comparison to them as they age faster than you. twinkdeath is a meme because you wont be attracted to 25 year old men forever

>>43309503
Oh I was never intentionally feminine. Twink death kinda sucked at first but then I was fine.

>>43309786
I’ve already gotten farther than expected, I thought I’d die but I lived long enough to get a doctorate, that should give you some idea.
So far, I’ve batted away visible deterioration. Mixing hrt, cardio and biohacking helps. I’m still screwed. Professionally it’s weird since I use the title doctor but am told I look like a teen. So I’m not getting taken seriously and it’s only useful in preformer adj stuff.
>you will be attracted to older men and you will look younger and younger in comparison to them
Already happened. It’s awkward also, and no easy solutions. The cop out is claiming intersex status. It’s made easier because a doctor gave me a fake diagnosis.


It’s a lot like the ring bearers in lotr, you get visually delayed aging but your spirit still tires and there’s hidden costs….
But I still don’t want to let go

>>43309851
I think I’m wrong in the head since I don’t want that. I tried putting my face in that face filter app and clicked on the male filter to see what I’d look like post twink death and it kinda scares me.
I genuinely blame my parents for this since mom suffered serious physical and sexual abuse and she took it out on me by beating me for being the son of her abuser and telling me I’d become a dangerous man, constantly comparing me to serial killers and sex abusers and I’d go to the electric chair.
I was honestly afraid and hurt.
And also, separately, other people would treat me well if they thought I was cute/pretty so whatever.

This is how I’m certain I’m not trans but I also shouldn’t have to go through androgen based twink death.

>>43309972
focus on the bright side! its not all doom and gloom remind yourself why you embarked on this path to begin with and what the alternative would look like and your problems will pale in comparison, its good to be realistic but rememebr the importance of being grateful, not in an abstract way, but thankful that your past self put the work in for your present self

>>43307620
The irony is I think he’s in ash’s discord with me (ash is a chaser) and also knows about the hrt but hasn’t gone after me for it.
The performative transphobia is genuinely stupid and the pendulum seems to have peaked since a year into running the country they’ve brought it to its knees.

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I went to an anime con and chatted up these 2 mexicans I thought were brother and sister. The sister had a tomboy look like she was cosplaying a guy, but still very feminine. Turned out she was a dude! I've always had a thing for traps but that was the first time I had ever gotten properly deceived. He wasn't even trans, and acknowledged that he gets mistaken for a girl quite a bit. Point is, they do exist.

>>43310074
that’s pretty funny, i don’t know the ash guy is he a /k/ dude? also i can’t prove anything but burt is glowie

>>43310098
thats just cause hes mexican, mutts have no testosterone

>>43309972
nta
Based hrtwink.
>But I still don’t want to let go
You really shouldn't if it works. I'm at least 7 years older than you and it still works (been at it since 2013). Sure, I no longer look like a teen but still way younger than guys my age.

>>43309972
>biohacking
woah brother give the prostrats, we are all trying to outrun twinkdeath here.

I already swore to myself I was fighting twink death until the bitter end, I'll throw everything I can at it. My prime copium is just comparing myself to people in my age bracket. Literally vampmaxxed/health maxxed my way into being a 29yo twink raw with no performance enhancers. I am cranking up the heat because my 30s are coming, but I am not giving up.

>>43310074
Some day these based retards will realize 80% of the femboys they are jorking it to are estrogenized, meanwhile they will rant about "protecting the gays". Sometimes I wonder if they are actually retarded enough to eat up all the fear-mongering about HRT "ruining your health", and the "becoming a lifelong medical patient", also they seem to think your cock flies off of your body if you take HRT, like lmao no one is taking my penis away from me.