can someone explain transmasc culture? it feels like clownery but completely self serious which is really confusing
>>43293053It's autoandrophilia, the female counterpart to autogynephilia. They get off on the idea of being men, typically being a gay man in particular. It's often accelerated by exposure to yaoi. The difference between an autoandrophile and an HSTS female is staggering.
IM GONNA TAKE BIG SHIIIIT IN YOUR MOUTH
same vibe
>>43293080this isnt purely autoandrophilia though this is some distinct yet related unfathomable reality. ftm lesboyism actively bypasses male on male sexuality. its posthomosexual and probably trauma related but i cant even begin to fathom it.
>>43293053women love to do shit that they know is unreasonable to see how much leeway society is willing to give themit's a lot like a toddler repeatedly crossing lines intentionally, because they have never seen what the punishment for breaking the rules is. they will keep going further and further until they finally discover a real consequence
>>43293359this feels incelish anon.
>>43293053it has to deal with them rubberbanding in response to the social pressures for women to cater their appearance for male approval. They revel in making themselves as repulsive to cis men that they make themselves repulsive to everyone around them. They've transitioned because they want to escape patriarchy, not because they have gender dysphoria 90% of the time. it's frustrating to deal with them because they still want to be treated with kid gloves like women are, and have community with women (because men aren't safe, and men don't often have groups for men's issues so they can't sympathy farm). They are adamant they aren't women, but then suddenly have always felt connected to their girlhood and the sisterhood their entire lives and are happy they have that; saying all of that to deeply insecure trans women who have felt like that part of their life was amputated by everyone around them. I had an trans masc explain to me that him being loud and interrupting (men) was a subversion of the patriarchy, despite identifying as a man, and regularly silencing me, his trans woman roommate.
>>43293385>muh patriarchy!!!patriarchy hasn't existed in any meaningful way in the west for at least a quarter century
>>43293385>Patriarchy I doubt those bitches live in Dagestan or Iraq
>>43293053because they are women. they are cis female womentrans men are men. transmascs are women who want attentionlook at the picture you posted with the context that this was written by a woman who wants attention? does it make sense now? it probably does, because that's what happened
>>43293053It just seems like look as fat dyke coded as possible but with colored hair and be bear level obese but act like you're a 12 year old boy cal arts Steven universe oc. Tldr:Ftms are trade evolved Quirky Chunguses
>>43293449>Ftms are trade evolved Quirky ChungusesTRUUUUTH
>>43293385this is really strange to hear but seems to echo truthful sentiments. im nonbinary (ie my birth sex it shouldnt have an impact on how im treated) but never ever would i insist that someone treat me like im a precious little pussyhuman. theyre kind of reinforcing patriarchy in a very direct way desu>>43293413>>43293424i dont mean to knock at your doors and prostelatize but theres a massive social push for both penishavers and pussyhavers to "remain in their place" and "scrape for privileges" that were established by patriarchy. just look at self infantilization or chauvinism, the way these things are expressed is super gendered, and sexed, lol.
>>43293053use empathy for a secondimagine you have been treated like a child your entire life. nobody has ever expected you to earn anything. just being yourself is enough for people to care about youand then you decide you want to be able to make your own lifewhat would you do in this situation? you'd start trying to exercise autonomy in any way you can, while still desperately clinging onto the free handouts you've been given your entire life
>>43293080autoandrophiles are attracted to the situations that make them feel masculine. these people are generally autogynephiles. they are attracted to the idea of themselves being as feminine as possible
>>43293564i do empathize with that a lot but also i kind of get sick of the sensitivity surrounding it. the building of a "safe space" for myself. i want to be androgynous but if someone doesnt pick up on what that means i dont waste my breath. these people waste their breath, waste their lives building up these walls instead of becoming more sufficient more autonomous more "hermaphrodidic" and complete. if anything they create a new zone of coddling that carries their favorite flavors without the constraint of provision. i cant handle that idea that i need anyone else to coddle me. i feel more extreme than these people, i cannot relate to wanting my handouts or privileges. i lie to get them, and dont make those lies other peoples problems with this sensitivity nonsense
>>43293638oh no i'm not saying they are being reasonable, i'm saying that this is an unreasonable behavior of theirs that you could easily understand by putting yourself in their shoesyou don't want to be coddled, but they do. they are not trans, they are transitioning because they want to be coddled in the way men are by the patriarchy but they don't want to stop being coddled in the way that women are coddled by the patriarchy it's just a classic case of wanting to have their cake and eat it too
>>43293484>im nonbinary (ie my birth sex it shouldnt have an impact on how im treated)This is how I try to view it too, and I don't hate people for trying to escape patriarchal trauma, it's part of why I struggled with my transsexed dysphoria, wanting to be a woman made no logical sense to me.>>43293413Keep telling yourself that, like a broken clock, you might be right someday>>43293424I mean their lives would be measurably worse, but the west isn't exactly a bastion of Matriarchal progress. Maybe I'm the only trans woman that finds it gross that my tomboy friend was aggressively pushed to feminize herself as a child, but it's a hill I'm more than willing to die on; that doesn't take away from the ways I was implicitly sexualized as a male child, but MRA's don't talk about healing from or stopping that generational trauma.
>>43293743mobius coddle reacharound>>43293772it really does come down to that "lack of sense" sort of thing doesnt it. outside of some material or presentational gain viewing yourself as "necessarily influenced by your biologia" to an extreme just acts as a limited for you. i get why others like being rolebound but i just wish i peed out my butt and had no genitals so people could just say i was a nothingbeast and go forward treating me as such
