Are trans boy lesbians valid?
>>43299257no
>>43299257lesboys are so fucking retarded i dont know whats the deal with FTMs being disproportionately not actually trans, it makes me feel bad for the ones that actually are trans>my attraction feels sapphicwhere are all the trans women going like "oh i'm a gay trans woman, no i'm not a lesbian, i exclusively like men! im a MLM trans woman!! my attraction feels gay!" or fucking "oh im a straight trans woman, no i dont like men i like women thats why i'm a straight trans woman!"
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>>43299307>"oh im a straight trans woman, no i dont like men i like women thats why i'm a straight trans woman!"I say this.
>>43299257Its basically a version of enbycoping. Its just like all the trans girls who identify also as fags/twinks
>>43299307have u never heard us call ourselves a faggot lol
I don't careI'm not fucking him, neither are most of us as it turns outIf his partner(s) don't like it, they can bark and whine and piss on eachother who gives a damn
>>43299518this is correctit's kind of retarded but it's also not actually harmful. you might imagine it to be an optics problem but in practice it doesn't end up that way because it's inside-baseball enough that terfs and rightoids don't understand it well enough to weaponize it at scale
>>43299518I imagine community plays a big role in it. Like, if your entire social circle is gay men/lesbians and you don’t really have any meaningfully interactions/relationships outside of those demographics, I get how someone would contort their identity a bit to continue to try and fit within them.
>>43299257no, and its because i dont agree with any idea that trans people "used to be cis" or "used to be a man" or "used to be anything"we were always women, we were always trans, there was never a point in my life i wasnt trans because i am just one person.like you would tell an autistic person who got diagnosed that they didnt used to be autistic, they always were
>>43299257i think it's fine for them to stay in their lesbian friend groups and etc, but if they're still identifying as a lesbian they're either faketrans or debasing themselves for pussy. either way that's their own problem to deal with lol.>t. cisles
>>43299257trans man lesbians are based because they're a reality check to the actual men who identify as lesbians. lesbian = female person attracted to female people, it's not a category that can be identified into or out of, and the only people who get mad at this self-evident statement are men with lesbian fetishes who think wearing a dress and a pronoun pin means their "lady"cocks will be accepted by homosexual women.
>>43299257the person who made this is definitely a teenager
>>43299307There are trans women who call themselves gay but from what i've seen, they also fall into the transmedical group, right wing and what not. I don't understand how trans men calling themselves lesbian would be any different than that? At the end of the day it's none of our business but how come one is a leftist identity and other is not while both are essentially the same.
>>43299257if they don't harass me sure but what are the chances of that. show your average trans lesboy a hon and watch his reaction. principles will fall to fucking bits innit
>>43299995>trans man lesbians are good because im a transmisogynisti like to think you were transported here from the 80s
>>43299257being attracted to women is a curse that once you have you can't ever stop.
>>43299257Who cares, it's a way to get pussy. Lots of "lesbians" are willing to get fucked by someone who looks like a man as long as they don't have a dick
>>43299257i honestly don't care what they do i just don't understand why they do it like at all
>>43299257>>43299307>I may be a transexual woman but I will always have a love for and connection to the straight male community! >My attraction to women feels more like a str8 cis moid's attraction than a lesbian's, so I decided not to change my labels!>i identify this way for personal reasons, such as trauma from cis lesbians, and a big part of my life will alway be my time as a straight cis guy!>I am happy with who I am! I found a great community of straights and i don't listen to people who resent me for my identity!
>>43299518yeah i was gonna pile up on the lesbian trans "men", but then i remembered i call my self a boobtwink, a twink, a failed male and a faggot. i really dont know if its my place to criticize an ftm for calling themselves a lesbian.though, that being said, i still think it comes across very differently when a fully transitioned WOMAN who looks and acts like a woman acknowledges their amabness with self-deprecating jokes by calling herself those things, compared to when a typical ftm (no hrt, not even trying to look even remotely male) says they are a lesbian while looking like a woman. like, thats just a lesbian, not a self-deprecating MAN. like when i call my self male it is obviously humorous and would confuse people who dont know me. when the average ftm calls themselves a lesbian, its not a joke and wouldnt confuse anyone. if a poonchad calls himself a lesbian though, i kneel.
>>43299257people like this are why i hate being a pooneri used to wonder why many trans women didnt like ftms, but now i completely understand where theyre coming from
>>43301126True. I can suppress my attraction to men and it wasn't lifelong to me, but attraction to women... it never leaves.
>>43299257They're very mysterious. That is why I require one IMMEDIATELY in my bed right now, for research purposes
>>43299257The amount of fucking hoops girls will jump through to be "trans" in name only while enjoying being an AFaB is batshit
>>43299945Cow, you obese male, you were not born a woman. No one is.You would have been diagnosed as dysphoric, not a woman. You are a male. You were a boy. You were also probably a man, and now you are a transwoman."Trans" is an action to use new pronouns and exogenous hormones. No one is born a man, a woman, or trans.
>>43299257No.
the difference people are missing while discussing the parallel between FTM "lesbians" and the way a lot of MTFs call themselves faggots is that being a faggot is to this day seen as a derogatory thing to most people who aren't "in" the group, whereas lesbians have been put on pedestals for awhile now, both by men sexualizing them (which counts, shut the fuck up about it being objectifying) and by every other group viewing them as the forefront of LGBT rights or whatever.trans men, both the ones who actually transition and the ones who just start demanding people use he/him on them, keep the lesbian label because its a status symbol. any statements about how they "love sapphically" is innately retarded because it presupposes that their method of 'love' is fundamentally different from anyone who isnt AFAB, and that they have the unique ability to assess and understand the theoretical alternative types of 'love' while the people practicing them are incapable of understanding their own. really, to admit that you think like this is basically tacit admission that you dont even view yourself as a man or even masculine, you just want extra special brownie points
>>43306139>lesbians have been put on pedestals for awhile nowUh wut
>>43306139>basically tacit admission that you dont even view yourself as a man or even masculine, you just want extra special brownie pointsyeah no shit this is the very heart and core of beint ftm ""transsexual""
>>43299257pick a side, one or the otherif you don't pick then you get forcefemmed
>>43306180nice place you got here
>>43306139yeah obviously, and trans women don't keep calling ourselves men because being a man isn't a status symbol because men are an oppressed underclassretarded
>>43306228Well I'm convinced
>>43306139I dunno if it's a tacit admission so much as a total acknowledgement of the reality that you're not a man.
>>43299257>Trauma from cis menLol but why would this make you not a man bitch wtf???
>>43299627Lol why you can't stay being friends with people even when you lose something in common?
>>43299257i dont really care as long as they dont expect to be treated by a lesbian outside their circlejerk of friendsif you expect me to date you bc you call yourself a lesbian trans man i will laugh at you and call you a straggot
>>43306470personally id just call them a female
>>43306470>i dont really care as long as they dont expect to be treated by a lesbian outside their circlejerk of friendsSadly, they frequently show up to lesbian events and will through a foid tantrum if you don't play along with their make believe
>>43306368>I am a trans woman but I call myself a man still because I get so many benefits from itthings no one has said ever. basically all transphobia fixates on trans women as being horrible sex pests trying to sneak into womens bathrooms, because the transphobes simply view you as men, or it fixates on the 'degeneracy' of it all in the exact same way people do with homophobia, once more because you are simply viewed as men. trans women refer to themselves as men because they either do not view themselves as 'worthy' as cis women are (a byproduct of being treated as worthless compared to them because that is what happens to men) or because they understand that open admission to deviating from 'acceptable male behavior' while being considered a man is extremely dangerous socially if not physically. people like you keep acting in denial and dressing it up as some kind of backwards proof of "misogyny" and are in utter denial that trans women are hated infinitely more than trans men because the people who hate them view them as men, and trans men get to get away with so much more including shit like op picrel because transphobes just see them as women who get free passes.
>>43306530>transphobia fixates on trans women as being horrible sex pests trying to sneak into womens bathrooms, because the transphobes simply view you as menthey don't view men as horrible sex pests trying to sneak into women's bathrooms. straight up, not a thing people thing about men.>trans women refer to themselves as menwe don't, i was being sarcastic. you really are retarded huh?
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>>43306565>they don't view men as horrible sex pestsplenty of terfs do actually
>>43306516its because lesbians want to fuck them
>>43303787also because a lot of them are fucking assholes who treat trans women like shit
bump because lesboys are retarded
>>43303333/thread
>>43299307>oh i'm a gay trans woman, no i'm not a lesbian, i exclusively like men! im a MLM trans woman!! my attraction feels gay!I ferociously exclaim this at every opportunity left and right thougheverbeit
>>43299945Bruh I think you browse too much Reddit>>43304024Yeah, I’m a tranny myself and I know I used to be a guy and now I’m this freakish, cursed aberration. People should really just embrace what they are instead of pretending and coping
>>43299257hang lesboys from trees
