fagcent - hstsno fagcent - agpfagcent is undeniable, innate femininity in amabsthat's why AGPs seethe about it even existing
>>43302079I don’t seethe about it existing
>>43302079take that everyone calling me agp! i do need to voice train tho i dont like having a fagcent
>>43302085agp - wheyhsts - curds
>>43302110you are agp though, you wouldn't need to tripfag if you were hsts, your femininity would shine through
>>43302079a fagcent is naturally developed through gay male socialisation, it's possible but rare for a hsts to not have this through being closeted and antisocial agps often develop a fagcent after trooning to larp which isn't the same
>>43302153Whatever that fucking means
>>43302079In my experience AGP's have a really low voice, you can barely hear them most of the time
>>43302243a fagcent is something you are born withnope, if you don't have it, it's cuz ur a gynephile so you aren't as naturally feminine geneticallyagps do fake feminine voices, but never a fagcent, because it can't be imitated without sounding off: see contrapoints' voice
>>43302243idk if that holds true, i have an atrocious fagcent but nearly all my friends growing up have been straight guys
it's always the same person making these fagcent threads... gincel?
>>43302220im not agp! !! grrrrr
>>43302079im genuinely convinced that you are just dumb if you cant control when you want to do a fagcent or not depeding on how you look, how safe it is, etc.
>>43302079What if I'm AGP but have a fagcent?
>>43302455i technically can but not consciously, i feel like i used to put on a deeper voice around scary men but even that sounds like fagcent
>>43302455most people here are like <90iqif you consider this, everything makes sense... like about ten percent of posters here are capable of thinking in conditionals tops
>>43302079Neither my bf nor I have a fagcent. We are a gay couple, neither of us has ever had a girlfriend. How does this fit in your theory?
I guess I had a fagcent as a kid cus people on the bus called me gaylord or fag but I dont think I still had it as an adult.
>>43302530Are you masc4masc?
>>43302266i never developed and adams apple and i have a pretty bad fagcent. i am not feminine otherwise. im bone thin at 75kgs and im 186cm.
>>43302530repressionif "masc" gays were raised in gnc-affirming households they would not be that way
>>43302704eh we're two guys in their mid 20s so not dad masc but not super twinky either
>>43302530Another data point. Long term bf, first relationship for both of us, he has a fagcent and I don’t (actually he reliably gets gendered female on the phone), he’s overall much more fem than I am, I like for him to dominate and creampie me, I’m trooning out and he would never
fagcentless gays should be uniformly turned into women (force fem)
>>43302809damn way to blow up a long term relationship for your crossy fetish I guess. hope your ex bf is doing ok
>>43303817I have never crossdressed either. I told him I was nonbinary when I met him so he knew the risk, or should have
>>43303823>I told him I was nonbinary
>>43302828based
i got bullied for talking like a fag and learned to mask>>43302455this>fagcent - privileged>no fagcent - neurotypical>autismccent - agp
>>43302455This is correct. Fagcent is a performance that some gay men put on to play with other gay men and to entertain straights. Same with lisping and limpwristedness. If they don't acknowledge it as a performance, then it's a paraphilia.
>>43302266There's an entire video essay about this and its literally an adaptation for gay males to say "hey im gay"
>>43306128OP is just a fake HSTS desperate to claim that his "fagcent" makes him a true HSTS. True HSTS try desperately to man up before giving up and trooning. Keeping the "fagcent" is the last thing they would do.Besides which, a "fagcent" isn't the same as talking like a woman. That's something OP would know were he not a sex-blind AGP.
>>43306160Also as an actual androphile the OP pic repulses me. More evidence that OP is AGP in denial.
>>43306160if you were as fem as me you would never have had a thought about manning up because it was never an option you were just so much more fem than the other boys that it wasn't even worth trying
>>43306183No, trying to man up for years is literally what HSTS do. "I've tried nothing I'm such a failed male teehee guess I gotta transition!" is pure AGP.
>>43306216they made me do sports and i was terribleim not sure what manning up could have even involvedthey bought me legosthey sent me to coding campi just wanted to talk and act and play and they hated that
>>43306255HSTS don't even clock themselves as feminine until they've faced chronic social punishment by peers for doing masculinity wrong which ramps up at puberty when other boys turn into men and HSTS boys just don't. As far as they're concerned, they're just being normal males. There's no inner "I'm a girl inside" feeling.Many boys are bad at sports. They don't troon out over it. They figure out other ways to try to fit in with male peers. They deliberately act out in class. They try to roughhouse. They try to talk about girls even if they're not into girls. They take up smoking (or more likely vaping these days) or drinking to try to seem cool. They lean into masculine fashion and hobbies like leather jackets and motorcycles (yes I'm old). They attempt to join subcultures like goths or metalheads which are more tolerant of atypical males.
>>43306356it was very clear I was more feminine from my earliest memories and my peers were never that accepting and it only got worse towards and then in puberty im not hsts, im a gay guyim not sure what being a fem gay boy is like in your mind, but I promise you it isn't that way
>>43306380Bullshit. That is not how first memories work. Your early memories were not of comparing yourself to others in terms of masculinity or femininity. That is a retcon, the same as trannies who claim they "knew" at age 4 despite not having a feminine bone in their body.
>>43306421I remember at age 5, in kindergarten, one boy went around kissing girls and called himself the kissing machine, and I remember thinking well I'm not interested in them like that I must stand out, and I was clearly less athletic than the most popular boys, and I liked seeing other boys pee and change when we had activities. I was pretty self aware and knew I was different if not labeling it gay yet.
>>43306216>>43306356>>43306421trvke. idk what i am but all the others like me were like this growing up too. the feminine urge to surrender to demands to man up. when you are fembrained and agreeable you value social cohesion and masking and when you are naturally pretty (the body and brain are the same) you dont need to be a girl to attract men anyway.
>>43306751it was just so clear I would never be accepted by the herd no matter what I did and the only thing they seemed to want is my total submission which I wasn't gonna do
>>43306765how was anything but submission even an option? its not about acceptance its about survival
>>43306875it was more spiritually honest to be myself and say fuck you to their fake morality and be gay and loud and aggressive and not just give in you aren't gay you don't even get it at all, I hate bisexuals you are something elsesure, I was totally ostracized but I didn't let people push me around without pushing back
>>43306905not sure why you are playing oppression olympics when you are clearly privileged. you fought back because you could. thats not an option for a lot of gay people
>>43306751There are a subset of males who are desperate to be feminine. They are invariably normatively male physiologically and their only claim to femininity is a deliberately affected performance. They get hung up on made-up rules about how if you ever tried to "man up" you weren't truly feminine. They go on about "I had no choice," but talking to family members tends to reveal that they deliberately chose feminine-coded activities and refused to stop them despite social pressure. It's an emotional fixation and obsession with femininity.
>>43306943what? i was totally socially isolated for most of my childhood how in the fuck was that a privilegealmost everyone around me was abusive as fuck except the few gay adults around me
>>43307074im not saying you didnt have it hard. im just saying you fought back because you could. like you just admitted to having gay adults there for you. i didnt have thatif you want to feel good about fighting back then fight for others. but you are putting others down for no reason because you want to see yourself as a fighter>>43307054yeah sounds like it
>>43307225transitioning is giving into homophobia, THATS why I'm putting you down people do not want gays to be assertive and defend themselves, trannies are submissive by design
>>43307323what have i said thats homophobic? where have i said i have transitioned? you are fighting ghosts. and you are proudly biphobic and transphobic. friendly fire makes no sense>transitioning is giving into homophobiaonly in iran. you have created a worldview where you had it the hardest so you feel free to attack everyone else
>>43302079>picrelgiwtwm>fagcent is undeniable, innate femininity in amabsthe absence of one doesn't mean ur not a fag tho. like i knew a gay kid who had to unlearn his bc of his senpai. brutal stuff.i don't know if i had one i just had a retarded kid lisp.>that's why AGPs seethe about it even existingif u knew any "agps" you'd know half them have fagvoices>>43306108truke & samenaturally crossed my legs but no i got beat for it. ofc i learn to manspread. i looked at my nails from the back of my hand instead of front and got called a fag/gay/queer etc so glad i don't have to worry about that stuff anymore.>>43307074having more privilege than someone else isn't "being privileged" it's not a black and white thing. it's okay to acknowledge ur grey even if it was pretty dark.u had gay adults around u which makes u a little better off.probs wouldn't call it privilege tho maybe just luck. privilegedness isn't a moral failing either it just *is*>>43307323ok ur retarded
>>43307611>senpaiI HATE THIS SITE GRR*f@m!ly
>>43302079If your only claim to femininity is "fagcent" then you're a total jeep.