>>43302597
fuck off nazi

>cis male
>loves me
>drug and alcohol free
>we have similar interests and life goals
>dominant top
>strong
>noticeably taller than me(sorry manlets)
>similar age
>willing to get married and adopt someday
>introspective and wise
>red hair

>>43302098
cis guy
doesn't cheat
dom top
not ever going to troon on me
watches subbed anime

>>43302098
this is a total hon but everyone will still lust over her just bc she’s white

>>43304963
No, we lust because we like boobtwinks

Sorry that you're melanized and look ostensibly like a gay hooker

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>>43302098
>big belly
>hairy (especially on the arms/hands)
>big bushy beard
>laid back
>kind
>smells like lumber and spruce

>>43302098
Chaser doctor who medically experiments on me to help cure my chronic health issues.

>>43305075
This is me if I worked out for like a month and picked out specific deodorant/cologne. But you are terminally afraid of men.

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>>43305075
Hmm
I didn't realize I was 85% of the way to MWAH's ideals.

And here I was, being mean to this husstussy posting cute bnuuy

>tall 6’+
>can grow facial have but is clean shaven, maybe a mustache every now and then
>curly/wavy hair that I can run my hands through
>pretty eyes that I can stare into when we cuddle
>big toned arms/back
>dick between 4-7 inches
>grooms himself a reasonable amount stays clean
>homebody, nerdy hobbies
>likes to binge tv shows and play video games with me
>pc desks together so we can hold hands
>likes that I cook meals for him
>is mentally well adjusted and sociable
>able to get along with my parents

>is very attracted to me.
>gropes my ass and tits when I don’t expect it
>good sex, feel like animals mating when we are together

>>43302722
age?

Cis male
Older then me (older the better)
Educated
Kind
Emotionally mature
Not insecure
Good body (pref lean and shredded)
Deep voice
Switch or dominant
Fun in bed
Likes to touch/grope what he owns
Likes to go out
Let’s me lay my head on his chest

>>43302098
i want him to be

>handsome
>have a nice smile
>be tall
>be employed
>be a top
>have hobbies

>>43305941
hello

>>43302722
Nope

>>43302938
Fairly low standards i tick all boxes

>>43305075
Some of these but mostly no

>>43305113
Nope

>>43305941
Again some of these but not all

>>43306163
90% of these, insecure though

>>43306344
Dont think im handsome sadly

>>43306538
>insecure though
Can you control it or externalise it on your partner? Don’t really want to go through this again.

>>43302098
>cism
>exclusive top and dominant in a kind but firm and paternalistic/mentor way, e.g a kind of chauvinism. preferably in a manner that it's clear that he owns me but i'm his most treasured possession, and he's happy to indulge in what he owns
>taller and much stronger than me, i'm average US white female height and so weak that e barely atrophied anything so this is very easy. can kill me without a sweat but would never
>does not have weird neuroses about srs, many such cases
>nice to random people and kids
>wants me to be the mother of his children conceived via surrogacy/similar
>provider or helps me as much as possible to carve out a career so that he doesn't have to be
>a little chuddy, misogynistic etc but as said: in a paternalistic way, not a crazy way
>worldly, well read, and curious
>not insecure
>bonus: hairy incl. nice facial hair

>>43306163
I dont bottom and Im not particularly shredded, other than that Im your man

>>43306568
Depends how supportive the partner is. Probably a deal breaker for the type youre looking for

>>43306645
I can live with that, where are you located?

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>>43302098
>looks
male, but looks like a female but with short hair and flat chest. tall and skinny. big cock.
>status
im not low iq i dont care about status
>personality
friendly, intelligent, funny
>what you would do to keep him satisfied
be my lovely self, and suck him off every day because i love cock

>>43305127
pathetic man, just pathetic. shes not gonna put out for you

>>43306730
EU...

>>43306568
>Don’t really want to go through this again.
what happened nona

>>43302098
the one that dumped me for younger more abusable trannies was perfect in every aspect but mind

>>43306881
All the good men are over in EU or US… I hope you find a pretty tranner who makes you happy.
>>43306892
Threw a lot of his insecurities on me, like saying constantly I was going to leave him for something better, crashing out about hanging out with my gay bff etc. Got to the point he was crashing about random people on the street and just obsessing how xyz looks cringe and gay to me like right in front of them, just came off as bullying and it was honestly so embarrassing especially at that age.

>>43306972
Oh im not like that. Mines mostly internal. *makes you dinner * oh its probably terrible and I'm sorry but here

>>43302098
> tall
> twinkish
> lean and muscular but not ripped
> not an ugly fuck
> working a decent job/rich
> not a cheater

>>43306988
Oh yeah that’s not the same, also it probably isn’t terrible :)

>>43306972
aw, you too

>>43306881
Where from?

>>43305075
Is this why you asked if I was hairy when questioning the abuse angle

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>>43307034
*gulp*

>cis male
>older than me
>socially and emotionally stable/mature
>deep voice
>socially and sexually dominant
>into forcefem
I basically described my husband except the age. He's like 5 months younger than me, lol.
I don't (and never had) an ideal but rather a realistic list. That helped a lot when looking for a life partner. We've been together for almost 8 years now.

>>43307053
Cus I do have a picture...

>>43305075
Mmmmm mwah!

>>43307023
I'll divulge that in private if need be

>>43307217
Disc?

>>43306163
>Likes to touch/grope what he owns
>>43306163
>what he owns
You??

>>43302098
>looks
Taller than me, either dad bod or skinny+muscular, beard, crew cut, half decent jaw. Wears a lot of dress shirts, maybe suspenders

>status
Well ideally rich but average is fine if they are employed and not a bum

>behaviour
Smart, funny, a little snug without being annoying, a bit arrogant without toppling into being deluded, dry humour

>what I’d do to keep him satisfied
I would kill for a man like this or do literally anything he requests without complaint

>>43306440
Hi <3

>>43309504
Yes :)

>trannies just mimicking straight women bullshit itt
Don't fall for it bros

>>43309861
Trans women acting like women? No way

Its almost like they are women

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>>43310566
Patterns as a verb form of paternal is pretty inspired. Easy to distinguish it phonetically from the typical patterns sound by stressing the first syllable also.

Pro-Tip for chasers, guys, incels etc looking at this thread:
Similar to a job listing, the desired traits these girls list are not absolute requirements. They're a wishlist. If you meet 70% or more of their list, you should apply. Real people won't filter you based on one thing like being shorter or not being rich enough. Your personality and how well you click matters a lot more. The same applies to job listings, where people filter themselves under the erroneous belief that their desires are hard requirements.

Though in both cases, you have to use intuition to know true hard requirements. A job will say you need a certain certificate. A woman may say NO BPD and you can be assured that's a hard requirement without asking.

>>43310670
Pro-tip for chasers: Some girls (me) will actually you filter based off being shorter. In my defense, that is my one thing, although there is a whole gestalt you’d have to be able to project also.
The pro tip being the 70% thing is good advice most of the time but the heart wants unfortunately and you are dating women

>>43310709
Yeah that happens. It's fairly rare to be filtered based on height desu and even some girls that think that usually end up compromising on it later. I would not represent it as 'short guys need not apply' for women since that's not actually a deal breaker for most women. (Though virgins will be so self conscious about their height they tend to deny themselves before even trying sadly.)

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Holy fuck shortcels were even filtered en masses by fucking not just trannys but extra mentally ill 4chan trannies does the torment ever end

>>43310749
I really wouldn't take a preference for tall guys as 'short guys need not apply'. Though your insecurity will likely hurt your confidence and your chances anyways. Dating goes a lot smoother when you don't base your self esteem on what some stranger wants.

>>43310781
>dating going smoothly
>date a tranny
Just watch me bleed

>>43310797
Then don't date trannies anon. Not to be mean to them, but they're not exactly great partners in general. And if you're a virgin you shouldn't go for them in the first place.

>>43310797
>tranny
>Just watch me bleed
Sorry, I would, but presumably I’d have to look on you down to do it, so I’m not sure how much that would help things.

>>43310812
Ive had sexo with a woman before e dated a twink on hrt and it was like dealing with a man more or less besides the fact he was a constant cortisol spike imagine the most stereotypical problematic person it could be and that was them

>around my age 26 - 29
>reasonably intelligent
>reasonably fit
>nuanced opinions, tries to explore issues
>has goals in life, has an idea of what he wants to do
>is actually looking for a life partner instead of a fuck buddy

Not looking to date off of 4chan but this is my general goals

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>>43302098
pic rel.

>>43302722
>loves me
You girls need to lower your standards wtf

>>43310888
Kys

>>43302098
>is happy dating taller women (im nearly 6ft3)
>is happy dating clocky women
>trans guy or cis guy
>interested in longterm obviously
>short stocky strong build
>body hair
>ultra protective in public (at least hope he’s proud of being seen in public with me)
>into role reversal in the bedroom (i have a dominant side i want to explore)
>not overly kinky or at least likes to explore at a slower pace
>doesn’t mind being smothered a bit or a lot lol
>40% crossover in hobbies and interests so we can learn about each other through them
>would love if he’s at least a little musical though
>loves to ramble about his interests
>loves to listen to rambles about others’ interests
>roughly similar maturity level or is at least working on himself in that regard like myself
>absolutely NOT a picky eater (food is a love language)

>>43310781
i think at least in my experience trans women care even more about height than cis women because being taller than a male partner causes dysphoria and a lot of trans women are looking for men who make them feel as feminine as possible
data gathered from being a tranny and havign trans friends

>>43310855
>has goals in life, has an idea of what he wants to do
I was so close... 5/6 aint bad

>>43302098
my absolute ideal dream chaser is over 6' and dark haired. a decade older than me but still handsome, he takes care of himself. his family owns a ranch and several hundred head of cattle out west somewhere...maybe between the davis mountains and big bend. a few horses of course. he teaches me to ride again, and he's patient since he knows it's been a long time. i'm his trophy and he helped me get work done so that i'm something worth showing off. now he makes me wear dresses, or tight jeans and blouses. he's been stern with me and to please him ive finally found the discipline out here to keep house for him, bake fresh bread every week and manage our money and file paperwork. he asks me to help him around the place sometimes, and i love doing it. we work calves together, move them through pens and into chutes and lock them up. he does the ear clippings and the brand, i do the vaccines and for the steers i band them around the scrotum like i've done since i was a boy. it's been a long time since i had any of that, and he helped me get rid of it. sometimes we get in his truck and just drive off to a far corner, maybe in the bushes by a leaky water tank, and he becomes a different person. an animal maybe, at least he fucks me like one. then we lay in the back together, listening to crickets, looking up at the dazzlingly beautiful night sky. out here it's full of stars

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but no one will ever love me so deeply, let alone someone like that. i'll settle, or kms, or something in between but until then i'll dream

>>43311304
Very invested in this desu

>>43311372
of whom do you speak

>Ideal Chaser
I do not date chasers but if you just mean man who's open to being with a trans woman then my ideal is a guy who is subservient like an obedient puppy. Realises that men have been told a lie and their role is to be submissive in a masculine way, rather than to dominate. Not too much of an ego. I don't care about status so long as he's not a total loser. I would want him to be kind and funny. Looks can vary a lot but I like when my obedient men are huge. Scary looking but well behaved for me. I like facial hair if its well maintained.
>what you would do to keep him satisfied.
I cringe at the expectation that its my job to dote on a man like he is a boy. That said if he's good for me I can be good to him, so long as he understands that is my generosity and not something he is owed.

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>>43302098
>likes me for something more than sex (optional)
>male (optional)
>takes me out a nice dinner sometimes (mandatory)

>>43311880
I'm not a man but do you want to go for dinner with me I could show you a much nicer time than a man could

>>43311888
if ur a califag then sure, i just cant do e-dating tbhon as my bpdemon ass would ruin anything before the end of the week

>>43306791
Hope you have the tits to go with that cock request.
>>43306163
Ah yes, you want a replacement father. "No insecurity" my hairy ass, we are all human.
>>43306344
With that in depth perspective, i see you surviving another 3 years.

Most of you are unrealistic or non specific.
This is why men fucking hate most of you.

>>43310566
lol

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>>43311906
>complaining about unrealistic standards in an ideal partner thread
is he fucking retarded?

>>43311906
Literally lower standards than myself, but go off retard.

>>43311901
Oh sorry I was mostly just shitposting about how I think I am better than men but for what its worth if I was in Cali I would absolutely take you out and show you a good time

>>43311423
>>43311844
this is a stupid agp oedipal complex abt an older male surrogate father in my family (it skipped over my actual father bc hes an ugly weak man who created hard times...just like meeee). i think all ranchers r insane chuds, ive met quite a few so jts a never happening thing. i just miss west texas and i liked it out there

>>43309538
damn I think our timezones might not be too compatible

>>43305113
that's literally just Dr Powers

>>43311087
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA
Thank you anon. You have no idea how much your wisdom pleases me upon discovery.

>>43311911
"satisfying one's conception of what is most suitable." Learn to read a dictionary sometime genius. You'll come to find you will rub off less as a complete and utter cunt.

>>43311917
What part of "most" do you not understand.
>Responds to a post not even designed to target them

>>43302098
Big guy like 300 lbs. With a sweet smile and caring eyes. Funny. Who is nice to hug and smells good. Probably middle eastern or indian. Jewish so we can have babies. Professional cook for a living but willing to be a stay at home dad if needed (i make more money)

>>43311906
We are talking ideal partners

>>43311071
What if hes twinkish short and from europe but mostly matches everything else ?

Damn, height really is everything, even to trans girls. Brutal.

>>43302098
tall, attractive, slavic, blond, strong, does anything for me, is super attracted to me.

oh wait thats my bf (⸝⸝ᵕᴗᵕ⸝⸝)

>>43313273
I dont mind a short king. The tall ones are just calmer and have less machismo

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>>43305075
Literally me

misgenders me, strange sexual fantasies, lifts, watches movies with me, doesn't completely hate me

>>43313307
Looks like youve shaved around your nipples

>>43310749
>>43310781

Heightfidence and faceonality strikes again. There is no way there are enough chasers for trans women to be this picky though.

>>43313421
Idk why they just don't grow hair like the rest of my body but I don't really shave anything desu

>>43313898
I'd trade my height if it meant finding a lovely partner for long term
a larger dating pool isn't that much better
but yeah that as a standard is just fool hardy, that'd be like me saying only gigantic tits lol
maybe because its somewhat equivalent its the male brain in trans women shining through

>>43312492
Dont care id still love to talk to you

>>43314829
yeah sure I don't mind having a talk.
disc. saudade727

>>43310670
>Real people won't filter you based on one thing like being shorter or not being rich enough.
They have and they do. But just like how someone's requirements vary person by person, the strictness of them does too.
>Your personality and how well you click matters a lot more.
This is true but everyone is retarded and only focuses on physical attributes and incredibly vague personality traits.
>A woman may say NO BPD and you can be assured that's a hard requirement without asking.
I don't think I should even have to say it.

>>43311071
Clocky =/= unattractive and can mean a lot of things so we'd have to swap pics (BOTH of us finding the other attractive is kind of a necessity) would be kinda important but otherwise I think I fit pretty much all of these.

>>43315029
Brasileiro?

>>43302722
lmao and i thought regular women had insane expectations, trannies truly are delusional

>>43315161
BPD is over villianized desu, its like a horrid 1/3 that's ruins it for the rest

>>43315195
nope, just a rando alt account name

>>43315210
Of the half dozen BPDemons I have interacted with only 1 wasn't completely malignant, and that really only stems from her being very up front about her selfish and childish tendencies, like outright saying she will cut herself to try to guilt trip people. Every other one has been completely amoral. Cheating, power fantasies over using others and then hurting them for no reason, jealousy so strong they're willing to sexually assault their FP. The only relationship that would ever work for a BPDemon is a horrifically abusive one - either their FP is extremely controlling, dominant, and even violent, OR, their FP just lets them get away with anything and simps hard core. I would genuinely say that anyone who is supposedly 'not that bad' doesn't even have BPD and is likely instead DPD.
Either way, the actual joke I was trying to make is that women, and this applies even more so to trans women, are notorious for throwing themselves at the absolute worst kinds of people. Women find serial killers and rapists extremely attractive. 'No BPD' is absolutely not going to be a hard rule for most girls who list it.

>>43315290
Your sample size is just too small imo, also the worst ones are obviously going to be more visible on average

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this is my peak meta attraction chaser but i only saw the first episode or was it two idk of the show so

>>43315290
This is absolutely correct I would suggest anyone who interacts with a BPD person to try to get away from them as soon as possible these arent people theyre literal demons and black holes.
Mind u I say that as a very tolerant person, Im fine with a lot.. but these demons are beyond anything anyone can handle...
>>43315210
>>43315376
And like u can see here theyre completely delusional about it too
Keep in mind ppl they earned their reputation...

>>43313898
The pickiness is gay bottom insanity
It's a belief you can obtain and become anything

It's part of why they're transwomen

>>43302722
All of this is me except I'm a fat fucking chud too

>>43315491
we're perfectly willing and capable to settle like everyone else who falls in love with men. it's wishful thinking, i doubt any of us rlly believe that we'll get all we want, that's life. but it doesn't mean we won't have fantasies of more perfect worlds

>>43315290
If you detect a BPDemon, the only correct treatment is to immediately bludgeon them, stunning them, and then while floored, stab them in the face until they fucking die.

These are not human beings but creatures sent to harm you if you don't stop them first.

>>43315441
>>43315553
after being mindbroken by one I realized all the insane sounding "they need to be beaten into line" posting was real. I would theoretically be willing to attempt it, and evidently a lot of them act as though they want that, but performing that level of dominant correction and dad-like disparagement while also almost certainly having to still pay for all their shit just wouldnt be worth it unless they were absolute ideal otherwise

>>43302098
Ideal
>male
>asain, preferably Northern Japanese will accept Mongolian or non Anglo whites
>minimum height 5’8”
>strict top, doesn’t suck dick like a faggot
>dominant
>smoking is okay I like the smell
>will tolerate me
>will indulge in my weeb and fujo shit
>needs to work 40+ hours a week, no poor people
>must have plans for owning a home
>no alcohol well maybe on special occasions
>born between 1980-1990
>has to be rough in bed
>monogamous
>well read

>>43315691
>smoking is okay I like the smell
I wonder how common this is. smoking is a huge instant no no for me.

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>>43315384
does meta attraction involve big hyper masculine guys or can slender guys fulfill?

>>43314829
>>43315029
did it work out
did this thread work

>>43316980
No he lives too far away

>>43316364
uhhh yeah usually
but slender guys can be hot too

>>43316980
No I wasnt even added

>>43316165
I used to smoke, like for 15 years and it’s comfy it reminds me of a home I can’t go back to

>>43302098
anyone that can just truly love me :c
as long as he's not a psychopath and he takes showers too.

>>43311071
where are you from?

>>43306608
best one yet because I relate a lot to that

>>43318126
>as long as he's not a psychopath
It's so hard to find a lover these days

>>43311902
> Ah yes, you want a replacement father. "No insecurity" my hairy ass, we are all human
No I want someone who isn’t going make me cutoff friends, twist anything I say into the most negative thing possible while making it about themselves because of their deep rooted insecurity and start sperging out with people on the street over nothing. Tired of having to deal with the embarrassment of being with someone like that.

>>43302098
> cis male
> Above 5"7', slender to chubby
> clean shaven
> shy (has no other friends)
> autistic (Though he has to have similar special interests as me)
> Generally Chill
> Though puts me in my place, if I'm acting bratty
> Horny (I want to know how much he truly loves me)
> Top (Though I'm fine oral sometimes)
> Brings me on dates
> Knows how to deal with a BPDemon like me
> Feeder/Chubby Chaser
> Eventually wants to marry me

Alrigtht, how AGP does that make me?

>>43319432
The only thing here that'll get people to call you AGP is being fine with getting oral.
Overall, aside from having BPD and wanting him to be into feederism these are very reasonable and I would say green flag-ish wants.

cisfem
~5'6"
beats me
makes me girlmode in public
20s
cooler than me
asexual or cucks me (i dont care about sex)
makes enough money that I don't need to work
appreciates me sharing my interests even if she isn't interested

>>43319760
>>appreciates me sharing my interests even if she isn't interested
In my experience this is essentially non existent

>Cis male
>Straight
>6’3+ (i’m a heighthon)
>broad shoulders, large hands, muscular, high dimorphism
>military/law enforcement job
>British or Eastern european accent
>Takes life seriously, clear goals
>25 or older
>Developed grooming habits, but not in a faggot way
>history of mental health struggles but currently well adjusted, so he can empathize with my issues
>Likes to spend time outside our house and encourages me to do so
>Likes touch, hug, and hold me
>Conservative social positions
>Not too politically radical, chuddy enough to be funny
>Respects me as a person, my goals, ability, ect, but also encouraging and supportive
>Supports me in my transition
>Loves me and never cheats!!!
>Can mentor me and help me with my personal and professional development
>DOESN’T WATCH PORN
>Not chronically online
>puts up with how ugly and whiny i am
I’m actually describing my finance teehee
well he’s 6’4 not 6’3 :)

>>43302098
>Cis woman
>Has autistic interests and likes info dumping
>Shorter than me
>Dominant
>Doesn't misgender me
>Doesn't cheat
>Doesn't tell people im a tranny

>>43319760
Fascinating fictional person you invented

>>43319760


>>43321544
The persona cannot exist in real life. that is the only possible conclusion lol! Nice ideal to have though.


I wonder how much relationships are fundamentally about compromise.

>>43306163
I know what you are.
Freud would have a field day.

>>43305075
By biggest regret is that I will never be fat enough for mwah

>>43302098
God she was so hot I miss her.
>>43302938
Cmon those standards are too low

>>43321950
>I miss her
what happened to her?

>>43310709
>>43310749
>>43310781

ive noticed its usually goblins who get really stuck up about height. if a girl actually refuses to even consider you because you aren't as tall as their prince charming ideal is, don't feel hung up about it, they usually are very vain and superficial (defending my short kings)

t. taller guy who always takes off 4 inches from my height to smurf on dating apps

>>43322037
She caught ligma from unprotected sex

>>43322100
not even funny
>>43322037

she posts her ocassionally, and I think also in /fit and /fa

>>43309928
I prefer trannies who are a little masculine in behavior desu

>>43321411
>Conservative social positions
hmmm interesting one

>>43321950
>Cmon those standards are too low
They aren't, I don't fulfill the anime one for example, I'm not particularly fond of anime

>>43302098
pretends im a woman (optional)