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What is the point of HRT, FFS, SRS and other cosmetic procedures?
Like how would any of that make you more of another gender?
A transgender woman who does not take any HRT, who does not transition socially in any way, who has a beard and male pattern baldness, is just as much of a woman as any ciswoman.
Transgender people do not need any medical care because none of that is relevant for gender.
As a matter of fact HRT and SRS etc. are quite sexist and transphobic when you think about it.
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>>43302995
Would you say James Charles is a man? I think he's pretty feminine for a man.

Some men are masculine, some are feminine.

And there are masculine women too.
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>>43303061
(chemically or surgically) castrated feminine men are never women or female
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>>43303070
>are never women or female

I disagree

They'll never be a man, so why bother in saying they're a man?

You're really saying pic related shouldn't use the female bathroom even tho she doesn't have a penis?
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I mean there is a reason why 'transexual' was the term that was used in the past. Most trannies have a desire to change their secondary sexual characteristics irrespective of gender.

They could be treated perfectly as their desired gender and still feel something was off about their body
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>>43303086
the dimensions of the shoulders and skull read male
we shouldn't have any sex segregation
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>>43302995
I like the soft skin it gives me even if doesn’t do anything
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>>43303107
>See that woman right there? Yeah well, she's not really a woman cause her shoulders and skull are different

I swear, you people do anything to bring down a person living their lives as they want.

Growing up, you keep calling weak, femine and/or beta man a "bitch" and a "girl", but when they finally decide to be that, you get into details like "bone structure" to say "well, yeah, you're a woman and all, but actually no".
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>>43303129
trans women look like men in real life, we can always tell if we see you clearly up close in person
ywnbaw
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>>43303146
>trans women look like men in real life

That's your experience. And I highly doubt it is real because you never actually leave your basement, you just like to seethe at trans people 24/7
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>What is the point of HRT
my tits bounce when i walk now
>FFS, SRS and other cosmetic procedures?
because i am transsexual and so like changing my sex
> is just as much of a woman as any ciswoman.
untrue sorry

this is a bait thread and i know that but i just needed to stress the fact my tits are huge
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>>43303204
How huge?
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>>43303220
my cup size is dd but they are still growing year on year. cup size is not an easy way to get an impression of how big boobs are though. mine are a good handful plus a bit to spare and are round and full. i am very happy with them and i think they serve as a testament to why transition is so based and cool
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>>43302995
you are not trans if you dont transition. you have not transitioned if youre not on hrt or dont live your life out as your preferred gender, name change and all.
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>>43303168
here is my basement
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>What is the point of HRT, FFS, SRS and other cosmetic procedures?
Women love doing body mods to be prettier and express themselves more, that's the feminine role, being the observed
>Like how would any of that make you more of another gender?
It doesn't, they are already that gender. It just enables them to thrive more and express themselves more fully.
>A transgender woman who does not take any HRT, who does not transition socially in any way, who has a beard and male pattern baldness, is just as much of a woman as any ciswoman.
That's true. Cis women also have those things sometimes.
>Transgender people do not need any medical care because none of that is relevant for gender.
Depends what you mean by need. They need access to the same amount of body customization and aesthetic options that other women have, which is a ton, otherwise it's discrimination. But real women will still find a man, have female friends, live life even if she has no access to cosmetic enhancement. I'm not super big on paying for anyone's healthcare with public tax funds and usually insurance tries to hook you up with crappy no-name butchers anyway.
>As a matter of fact HRT and SRS etc. are quite sexist and transphobic when you think about it.
You're are just being silly. A woman who was born with a collapsed vaginal canal that is rendered unusable for sex would still try to pursue a surgery to correct that if she had the means and it was available, but she'd also most likely live her life fully before that, have a bf, have a life, and just do sex some other way. Because she's a woman even if you transported her brain into the body of a slug she just adapts and continues the best she can, because there's no other way to be in her mind, she's just female.
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>>43303246
Post cleavage
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>>43302995
Gender doesn’t mean anything, it was invented to confuse trannies. We take hormones because we want to look like and live as the other sex
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>>43303363
you cannot look like or live as the other sex
you take hormones because you are homophobic and misandrist
you are dishonest predators
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>>43303290
nah im good. i don't have great cleavage despite having great boobs, at least not without a bra to wrangle them. they're a bit too far apart and a bit too perky. give me a few years i bet they'll get better in this regards. for now though i take great boob pics but mid cleavage shots
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>>43303375
if this is true why do stealth people exist
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>>43303375
You literally can though

Well, I can’t but others can if they start early enough.
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>>43303381
>at least not without a bra to wrangle them
So just put them in bra first and post it
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>>43303402
but i am lazy!
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>>43303388
they don't, pigs don't fly

>>43303393
makes no difference when you start, you will look male if you are xy
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>>43303415
>they don't, pigs don't fly
i think its really funny how you dig your heels in on this one when its so clearly untrue. i understand a position thats like, even if you are stealth you are still a man and i hate you for that. but just denying people can pass is really really funny and i don't know if you are aware of that.
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>>43303406
I am sure they are amazing, I just want to enjoy the sight of them
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>>43303415
Such a waste of time when dumbasses like you pretend stealth passoids don’t exist. They do, it’s not even debatable

How am I supposed to have a dialogue with someone who claims gravity doesn’t exist
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>>43302995
i just want to pass that is literally all i want
i dont want people to give me weird looks
i dont want to make people uncomfortable
i just want to exist
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>>43303446
>such a waste of time when you pretend Jesus isn't our Lord and Savior
>everyone knows he is
>join our cult and castrate yourself
>don't you want to be happy
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>>43303494
Actually estrogen/orchiectomies don’t castrate you, you remain fully fertile

See how stupid I sound? That’s what you sound like. It’s not provocative, you’re just wasting everyone’s time
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>>43303493
Did you make this genderswap?
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>>43303446
honestly i am glad the people who hate us the most believe this as it makes changing your sex so much easier. if you don't look like a stereotype they cannot clock it.
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>>43302995
what's the point of working out?
what's the point of getting titjobs?
what's the point of getting hair transplants?
what's the point of tanning?
what's the point of makeup?
what's the point of doing your hair?
what's the point of getting tattoos?
what's the point of wearing clothes?

also nice stefonknee pic I really wonder what hey're up to now
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>>43303583
I've clocked plenty of post-ffs trans women in real life. You will never trick me, sir.
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>>43303609
i am actively motivated to have you keep believing this is my point. why would i argue it? you are right you have 100% perfect tranny detectors
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>>43303583
The problem is I will look like a stereotype and all the hate will be focused on me, like a laser
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>>43303633
im sorry nona i don't believe this is true because i think its generally not true for people who post here. you could likely pass.
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>>43303070
The emperor let his eunuchs tend to his flower garden and I'd say he knows a little more about castrated men than you do pal because he invented them
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>>43303693
eunuchs were still seen as men, which they are, trying to force people to pretend castrated men are women will never succeed
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>>43303258
>Nature

Yeah right.

You actually live under a bridge, you stupid troll
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>>43304079
fine, you are right, here's the bridge I live under
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>>43304112
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hi chuddy! here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for your post.
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>>43302995
>What's the point of HRT?
Fun :3
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I live as a man but honestly HRT is a really good antidepressant. It's worthwhile for that alone and since I'm a fag the feminization doesn't bother me (It doesn't really work for normal guys).
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>>43303710
nobody actually fucking cares what trannies are, i think asking if we are women is the wrong question desu
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>>43302995
>HRT and SRS etc. are quite sexist and transphobic when you think about it
Why?
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>>43303600
I'm asking these questions and no one is answering.
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>>43303093
cisgender transexual comin through meep meep make way
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>>43303061
He appears to be a physiologically normative male. His "femininity" is entirely performative: mostly exaggerated makeup along with skincare and a feminine hairstyle.
>>43303086
A tiny little head on a frame that clearly went through male puberty then got BBL does not look female. The breast implants are wrong for the chest: too small (hence the gap) and too high up. Those are some big old man thighs too.
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>>43309595
How is it not? Both of them are contingent on the idea what a man or a woman is "supposed" to look like
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>>43302995
You imagine we do these things because we want others to see us a certain way. You probably think this is why cis women wear make up. No; we do it because we want to feel right in our bodies. It is the same reason men work out, at least if they are mentally stable.
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>>43310589
he has gayface
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>>43310599
Instead of directly addressing your "criticism", I want to point out that you seem to be suggesting that transsexuals, alone, should behave as though gender has already been abolished, as a sort of "gotcha" to prove that actually we're not woke enough or some shit. Gender has not, in fact, been abolished. We do not live in a world where men and women can dress exactly the same way. We do not live in a world where you will not be judged for taking estrogen as a male or testosterone as a female, in the same way nobody bats an eyelid when a cis women takes E or a cis man takes T. We do not live in a world where our sexes are nothing more than a matter of reproductive logistics.

We, transgender people, would really, really like it if this were the case. It is not the case, and we have to suffer for it. Money is a social construct, but you still gotta pay rent. Why is it that only we are expected to behave as though gender has already been abolished, and make ourselves laughing stocks and attract violence and scorn by being ugly, for *your* amusement?

Go fuck yourself. I am a woman and I want to be beautiful, in the same way all cis women do.
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>>43303260
ew a sincere response? wtf is this?
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>>43302995
Obvious idiot trying to pretend to be queer to pathetically try to grasp at straws to convince trans women to detransition
Fucking cope loser im going to rebuild my entire body cell by cell if it did nothing you wouldn't be seething and trying to convince me it did nothing
glow harder retard
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>>43310662
He is performing "gayface."
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>>43310666
>666
begone demon
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gay genocide
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>>43302995
last two lines jumped the shark a little bit, i almost thought it was real until then do better op :/
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>>43302995
HRT and FFS isn't a complete scam. It can make them hot
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>>43302995
glowie post



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