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>>43303414
depends on your bones
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>>43303423
/thread
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>>43303423
Actually, I think for people with shitty bones it’s worse to be fat because it accentuates how big they truly are
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>>43303414
healthy weight
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>>43303414
I should kill myself
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>>43303414
no trans women who went through full male puberty will pass skinny until years on hrt or surgeries imo
but they can if they gain some weight
both are needed to be pretty as u have to be skinny before u start hrt
>>43303452
idk it kinda saved me, but also in the realm of troons i have been called a boneluckshit when i was skinny, which i do not agree with at all
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real question is whats the ideal bmi
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>>43303488
>no trans women who went through full male puberty will pass skinny until years on hrt or surgeries imo
skill issue
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>>43303488
I think it’s also on genetics. I’m fat (170cm / 70kg) and it spreads mostly around the belly, arms, face and a bit on the hips, so I just look bulkier than I really am (I have big bones too). I still pass, but if I were skinnier I would look better because my shitty microcurves would show up more and I would be less insicure
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>>43303488
>no trans women who went through full male puberty will pass skinny until years on hrt or surgeries imo
i did though. got chased off brainwormed online trans spaces for "being a passoid" while i was pre-hrt in my late twenties lmao. 90% of trannies look (and sound!) like they dont even try to pass and thats why yall are so pessimistic about passing
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>>43303540
depends on the person, i think for me maybe 50 or more depending on what my bf thinks is cute
>>43303543
hows it going for you girly
>>43303581
mmm i think ur right ya some ppl do pass better thin
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>>43303643
lwk same but i was just a pretty attractive passoid instead of like gigapassoid, but i still think it was worth it for me to gain weight
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>>43303647
>hows it going for you girly
Well I don't pass but that's cause of my moid skull. my body passes best at 16.5 bmi
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>>43303657
i mean it was worth it for me too to go from underweight to normal weight, but ill never allow my self to go into obesity because it just doesnt look good and i like the tall skinny high-elf look, which i still have at normal weight because im just built like that
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>>43303657
current bmi?
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>>43303664
valid, ffs will save u but my point still stands
>>43303680
also valid
>>43303696
like 42
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A tranny who isn't afraid to workout will look best 18-22% bf 21-23-bmi
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>>43303696
WHAT

thats like class lll gng
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>>43303727
>18-22% bf
that looks awful
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>>43303742
well yeah it was intentional. (。ᵕ ◞ _◟)
my bf thinks its cute so im um gonna keep gaining weight
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>>43303756
yeah if you have mid to shitty bones esp for hips like most trans women getting around 25 bmi is ideal the sad truth is the vast majority of twomen will never look good thin you were not meant to have a cvnt waist or whatever
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>>43303756
No it doesn't, the tunmy isn't even flat until you get to around 22% body fat, it just looks bad on people who don't work out like the average tranny
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>>43303837
Most trannies also have subpar fat distribution on their hips you get like half an inch or hip width and a chubby belly, it just doesn't work unless you're lucky, might as well maximize WHR instead
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>>43303850
>the tunmy isn't even flat until you get to around 22% body fat
lol are you using male body fat percentage as reference?
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>>43303414
I think I pass best around 125-130lbs, I'm 5'8-5'9

But I've always had an hourglass figure even when I was 110lbs 10 years before hrt.

I took pio and gained weight to 160lbs and now I'm dieting and exercising back to 130 with basically all of the extra fat being my hips to my thighs
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>>43303778
youre ruining your body you fat pig
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>>43303899
Pessimistic female range(trannies usually aren't as optimally fat distributed as cis women), and Men aren't consistently flat tummied until teens fat percentages
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>>43303934
im making my body perfect for the man im spending the rest of my life with
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>>43303989
>trannies usually aren't as optimally fat distributed as cis women
lmao
women are a little over 20% bf at 18.5bmi btw
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ideal bmi is <15 desu its like 15 = neutral and anything above is fat and gross
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>>43304117
post ur pic goddess
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>>43304027
Trannies don't have as small of frames as cis women and that's without significant muscle, I specifically said a tranny who works out

Also why Lmao? I think this is pretty obvious that trannies usually have poorer fat distribution on the hips and maintain slightly more on the abdomen. Although limited we also have some data that trannies maintain more viseral fat than cis women after hrt which generally correlates with higher subcutaneous abdominal fat as well
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>>43304117
im at 17 that means im fat?
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>>43304005
And you wear it so well
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>>43304125
my legs at 14.6 :DDD

>>43304130
probably yeaaa
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>>43304262
Ewww
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>>43304262
How are your bones so smalll, there's no point on trooning without delicate bones killing myself
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>>43304262
i dont want to be mean but thats the most disgusting thing ive seen all week.

optimal bmi is like 21
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>>43304251
(இ﹏இ`。)<333
means alot to me
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>>43304399
my femur is long as fck i jsut compensate by starving myself <333

>>43304335
>>43304429
thank u i really aprpecaitate it :)
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>>43304462
The tickness is the important part,, length is whatever
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>>43303540
30
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>>43303414
both. body recomposition. anamax to lower moid fat. musclemax to stabilize frame. moderately bulk to healthy bf% to get a layer of subq fat to smooth out the muscle. be realistic slow deliberate and disciplined. budget multiple years for loss/gain and integrate it into transition benchmarks
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>>43304117
TRUKE

i look like picrel at 17 and amazing at 16 its so fucking lame

>>43304262
nuh its too much im too tall so i look kinda like that already if i actually went to 15 i would look way thinner than that
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>>43305344
thinner is always better :)
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just another kilo of grilled chicken

yeah we protein anamaxxing
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i think the real proof that fatter will always be better for passing is these girls who are anorexic would never post their body!
im not even hating, it just shows where the substance is
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>>43309321
They are just all bdd, I've seen plenty of 17 bmi trannies irl and they are often pretty.
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>>43309339
well yeah its not like theyre bdd for no reason, they have to see their bones every time they look in the mirror
ya i think they can be pretty too, but pretty in a twinkhon way, rather than a cis woman way
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>>43309347
Most trannies don't have the potential to be pretty in a typical cis woman way. Girltwink model is the highest we can often aspire to.
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>>43304262
holy fuck eat a burger ur gonna die
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>>43310132
its not even that thin tho
>>43309347
my only hope is ethereal angelmoding being fat feels too gross :/
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When I'm thin, I have less of a broad frame, less broad shoulders, but the shoulder-to-hip ratio becomes pathetic.

My BMI is 24, and I'm hesitant to continue gaining weight.

I'm totaly passing outdoor, I don't know how, probably because of my face, both when I'm thin and when I gain weight, I think.

Gaining weight makes my bones less visible, but my stomach is bloated (subcutaneous fat). My BMI is 24, and I feel like I have a dad bod again.

I've been on HRT for three years, and for three years I've been cycling my weight without knowing what my target weight should be. I just want to reduce my shoulder dysphoria, which is preventing me from living a normal life.
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23,7/24bmi ...
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>>43311931

21 bmi vs 24bmi.

My bones are very square.

Weight cycling ( with annomaxxing) killed my brest developmment
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>>43311947
dorito to hourglass
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>>43313121

It reduces my dysphoria about gaining weight. The problem is that I also gain fat around the back of my neck (the buffalo hump) or back shoulder, and I still have this issue of my upper stomach bloating when I relax my stomach, even though I don't have visceral fat.

I want to gain more, but I'm staying at a BMI of 24 so I don't become a square refrigerator with a dad bod.
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>>43313380
>I still have this issue of my upper stomach bloating when I relax my stomach, even though I don't have visceral fat.
they tell me its about abs transversal abs and pelvic floor and to do kegels and vacuum about it
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>>43313380
How do you know you don't have visceral fat?
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>>43303414
I wont ruin my slim build for some boobs/ass. Last time I had normal BMI I was in middle school.
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>>43315218
you can just tell by touching ur tummy lols
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>>43315228
Subcutaneous abdominal fat may correlate with visceral fat but it isn't a 1 to 1 indicator
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>>43313380
How do u get a slimmer neck what the fuck
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>>43315218
The nutritionist analyzed it and told me.

It's just that I can't breathe from my diaphragm, probably a muscle issue.
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>>43316146
Kys passoid
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>>43316162
"passoid" i have more shoulder than u

3y hrt, 3y of weight cycling, annomaxxing, starvmaxing, etc

I killed my breast
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>>43316201
You don’t even know who I am. I have like 52cm wide shoulders, no hips, small tits, etc an ugly butt

I’m the rapehon meme
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>>43316335
I have no hips if I'm thin.
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>>43316335
hip circumference/breadth?

do you actually have 52cm shoulders

how long on hrt/save up for BA

for ugly butt just work out lol
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>>43310392
>my only hope is ethereal angelmoding being fat feels too gross :/
You can condition yourself to like weight gain, angel moding falls apart completely in middle age while fatmodding just gets stronger
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>>43317413
im killing myself before i turn 30
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>>43319468
ok
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>>43303452
yeah but if you have shitty bones anamaxxing is 100% bad
where fatmaxxing you have a chance to be good (have okay enough genes + know how to minmaxx fem distro)

>>43303478
also very good option
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>>43303414
i tried both over the years as a 5'7 twinkhon. first i starved myself (130lb) and was probably the most attractive at this bodytype but I wanted tits so i weight cycled and ended up having decent proportions being fat (180lb) but i wasnt super thrilled with the results because it gave me a bit of a fat belly too so i joined the gym to get a bigger ass and tinier waist.

after 2 yrs of gymmaxxing i got my hipthrust up to 500lbs and my squat up to like 250. then i used reta to get below 10% bodyfat again (140lb now because i gained lots of muscle over 2yrs). i actually hated how i looked because working out passively made me more muscular everywhere and did grow my lower body but not significantly for me to call it "worth it" and i ended up looking like a male twink and it made my tits saggy. even the 6 pack was not worth it.

so now im on pio and weight cycling back up again around 160lb and my tits don't seem to be coming back as good as they did the first time around.

my muscular ass was much more defined but it lost size at 38" and less jiggly while my fat ass was 42" so i recommend just remaining slightly fat and doing stairmaster or bike riding and maybe get lipo and thats it because i really suffered trying to eat enough protein and lift heavy weights for 2+ yrs just to look like a male again lmfao



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