Hypothetically, how possible is it convince oneself to be dysphoric without actually having gender dysphoria?
>>43316263Unless you’re a hysterical AFAB minor or a super confused autist, it’d have to be schizophrenia or head injury-tier confusion. If you’re hyper-fixated on your gender then it’s probably gender dysphoria. What the normies won’t tell you is that if you’re “bisexual”, AGP, and/or a chaser as well then it basically confirms it.
>>43316263troon out already and spare yourself the bullshit hypotheticals
>>43316263Stare at the mirror for the majority of the day analyzing everything about your face and body how male it is and how you’ll never pass would be a good start
>>43316263The likelihood is about 1.069%
>>43316314Yeah, but do I do all of that because I'm actually dysphoric, or did I make myself dysphoric by doing all of that?
>>43316332Idk lol i started doing this after i realized i was trans so dysphoria might just be a prerequisite
>>43316263ye I did that and now I have genuine reverse dysphoria after taking e :(
>>43316263I don’t know the odds but I did it and I sure as fuck wish I hadn’t. Theoretically though I should be able to detroon and be ok, it’s just scary with all the talk of John 50s etc
>>43316363Same, but wouldn't that mean that I've had no reason to come to the conclusion that I'm trans in the first place, and only am retroactively justifying it?
>>43316322Very precise
>>43316489Nah dude it just means you didn’t get groomed into it or didn’t get propagandized into it which actually makes it worst because this how you truly are and no amount of repping will change that so you’re just depressed until the end of days
>>43316779I meant that I can't remember ever staring at the mirror for the majority of the day analyzing everything about my face and body, how male it is and how I’ll never pass before coming to the realization that I'm trans, which feels like a contradiction
>>43316858I can’t actually think of something to say here lol i avoided looking at mirrors for my whole life basically until i was like 16 and just tryna figure out what was wrong with my face why it felt like not my face but i didn’t even realize i was trans until i was 18 so maybe im just a retard child
>>43316332Everyone's so fucking vain that it's like impossible to know
>>43316263i think its possible, like rogd
>>43316957I did that too but it took me another decade so I’m even more retarded. “I want to rip my face off but all feedback indicates it’s fine, hm how strange”
>>43316999Idk i know transitioning young would be impossible since my parents were poor and horrible people but i still wish i realized it younger lol
>>43316309>16309▶>>>43316263 (OP)>troon out already and spare yourself the bullshit hypotheticalsnta but i wish it was that simple
>>43316967cow believes in rogd!?!?
>>43316858Non-dysphorics don’t have a drive to change their gender and concerns about their ability to pass, they simply wouldn’t care about that. Normal people don’t obsessively want to change their gender.>>43316966Sure but vanity without dysphoria would just be looksmaxxing.
>>43317694the drive to change my gender and concerns about possibility only existed after I came to the conclusion that I was trans which is what makes me feel like I could've just as easily remained a cis man if I wouldn't have opened this Pandora's box
>>43318587Why did you conclude that you’re trans?I’m an internet retard and not a doctor so take this with a grain of salt, but here is what I understand. Assuming you’re MTF, early-onset gender dysphorics (childhood, prepuberty) are gender non-conforming and dysphoric from a very early age. Late-onset cases (anything from puberty afterwards, even decades later) typically present as mostly gender-conforming with limited to no signs of gender dysphoria other than sexual patterns. There is debate as to whether or not the dysphoria is stable but repressed, or if it actually worsens with time. It tends to “blow out” and become active conscious dysphoria eventually, often immediately after loss or major life transitions. Mine opened up like Pandora’s box like you described and was all consuming. You should consult a gender therapist instead of /tttt/ though, this is probably a tough time for you and I’ve found mine helpful.
>>43316263Basically impossible. Because you won't keep it up. You'll get bored, you'll forget. It'll really stand out to you.When you find a superior way to be; to conceptualize yourself, it's a relief, it's a joy. It doesn't take any effort to do.
>>43317105i mean how else to u explain the poondemic who all detransedi think most people who use the term, use it maliciously though
>>43321278Guess I'm fucked then
>>43316263it's hard, but doable.>>43321278 is wrong when s/he says you'll get bored. You'll get bored only if you don't have something to motivate you.I gave in to my emasculation fetish and from there on had the motivation to work through. Psyopped myself into dysphoria, androphilia and a little bit of agp. Now I'm a post op tranny with a husband.Yeah, it's not easy and you gotta find ways to make it enjoyable/fun and to keep motivation up. However, if you can do that, then you're much more likely to make it when compared to "naturally" dysphoric trannies.
>>43316263yes because i'm faketrans with ROGD since 15 and i need to stop chasing delusions and man up
>>43322654I'm sure you did all that just because you've psyopped yourself, and not because you were actually dysphoric. I mean, there's just no other explanation surely
>>43323132Feel free to disbelieve me. I'm way past seeking approval from anyone.It's still true. I never dreamed about being a woman prior to age 25, which was 3 years after I gave in to my fetish and started actively psyopping myself.I'm glad I trooned and I could simply lie to get the approval of other trannies. Especially given that it's unpopular to admit I trooned for the fetish. But it's true.
>>43322654>>43323171That sounds exactly like autogynephilic gender dysphoria, read Anne Lawrence.
im a cis boy but i kind of wish i was trans, i think my life would be better if i was a woman
to al the “ROGD” “”boys”” in herestop beating around the bush. you are literally just posting this shit so we will tell you to troon. just looking for an excuse. just own it and do it yourselfi thought i was faketrans rogd agp alllllof it. and i transitioned pretty late (25ish). and everything has basically turned out fine. i get to be a woman now.here’s the thing you already know but need to accept: you dont want to be a fucking man.and the only escape from manhood is trooning. sorry!
>>43325284I was wishing someone could tell me not to troon because trooning probably kills me, but I understand that’s not going to happen. Where did all the gatekeepers disappear to
>>43325284i dont even have any dysphoria or anything i just dont like how men act and dont want to be associated with them, women are kinder and friendlier except to men because men cant be trusted. itd be easier to be in a relationship and make friends if i was a woman but im just not trans
>>43325358“because trooning probably kills me”yeah exactly. this is a cope to give you an excuse to keep repping. you already know that you have to do it. are you scared u wont pass? that’s fair, and i dont want to downplay that. but, like, i want you to be able to look in the mirror and feel happy with what u see. and i think you and i both know that starting the process now is the only road to that
NEVER GONNA CRACK NEVER GONNA CRACK NEVER GONNA CRACKNEVER GONNA CRACKHONS SEETHING
>>43325369yeah yeah this was exactly my reasoning before trooningi even thought i was a misogynist, because men shouldnt be jealous of women!
>>43316263idk i trooned cause i was extremely isolated, terminal case of no pussy disorder, hated myself for being ugly and a failmale. dgaf though desu it was a good decision. life as a male isnt worth it if you arent masculine
>>43325588>life as a male isnt worth it if you arent masculineAgreed
>>43316263thinking that you want to do this is an extremely common symptom of gender dysphoriayou already have it, this is just meta-self-hatred where you don't even feel worthy to hate yourself for not being a cis woman so you convince yourself you're faketrans and hate yourself for that instead.
