What are trannies thoughts on why the majority of young men are incels? You have seen both sides.
This says adults, not "men"You think all females are perma-children? OddAnyway, phones but too much, surveillance culture, induced neuropathy etcWhen you're always double checking your imaginary presentation to phantom strangers it gets a bit less exciting to perform, except for the degens
>>43322581Vast majority of incels are menWomen can get sex on tap
>>43322496I got sex both when i was a man and now as a tranny. Skill issue
>>43322581There’s no cis woman older than 18 that’s still a virgin
>>43322496>report from datingadvice,com>likely kids 18-30 already on the site whining about how they never fucksure very reliable lmao
>>43322588>Thinks that being able to get mediocre sex from mediocre men who arent impotent but might as well be is a privilegeKek
>>43322609tf does that even mean nigga
>>43322609>I cant get chad WAAAAAAAHHHH
>>43322609Compared to being unable to get sex it's objectively a privilege
>>43322594Samesies. I gave up a life as a pretty good looking man to be the most milquetoast 6/10 tranny of all time, still end up being a slut (until I met my t4t gf <33)
>>43322496Society is broken.
>>43322623Imagine after two pumps the pussy clamps shut and you cant fuck anymore
>>43322496Not shocked. Modern men are weak, pathetic, and pussy. Men just complain about women, being a virgin, not being liked by women etc.They're weak chuds eho can't think for themselves, so OBVIOUSLY they became incels. It's hard to find MEN who aren't bigoted in some way, VERY rare.
>>43322625Fr i was a good looking guy and got a lot of attention in college. Unfortunately i didnt want to be a guy anymore
the incel is just a different reaction to the truth that the randomness of body features is deeply cruel, unfair and depressing, and a fundamental injustice that dooms people to miserable lives. misogyny is just a coping mechanism that there is some semblance of hope that if women were forced to have sex with them then the Body Problem would be fixed, when it wouldn't. It is basically unfixable and intrinsic to biological life.
>>43322623Would you rather deal being locked in a room with a tweaker or being in an empty room? Loneliness is preferable to dealing with insufferable people.
>>43322642I know this is bait but a lot of incels are just highly unfortunate men. You think the 5'2 indian is getting ANY pussy no matter how nice he is?
>>43322669Yes. My loser roomate whos like a month behind on rent, lives in a trash pile, doesnt clean his toilet, cheated on his girlfriend, lies constantly, sleeps until 3pm-6pm every day, and steals all my food has a girlfriend. A cis girlfriend that actually cleans his room for him and shit and helps pay his rent at that.I feel so fucking sorry for her ngl.
>>43322676chad does what chad wants
>>43322496because they can't hit on women because they can't know if they're cis or trans anymorehitting on women isn't safe anymore
>>43322496Wdym seen both sides? What are the sides? I've seen no sides afaik. If I had to guess it's the lack of third spaces that lead to social isolation, and the rise of video games, these both push a lot of men and some women into being alone, and the longer they're alone the harder it is to break out, and also the more likely it is they fall into weirdo conspiracy stuff like the manosphere and the red pill at which point it's basically over for them.It might seem outdated to say much video games but it's not really about the medium it's just that it's an activity you almost always do alone, even when you're technically connected to others, if you're sitting in your bedroom it doesn't really matter if you're on voice chat with some other incels a thousand miles away that's just a rank imitation of socialising, it counts as much as posting on 4chan
>>43322685Hes not a chad lmao. Dudes like 5'7, balding, has absolutely fried hair, one of the most recessed chins Ive ever seen, his eyebrows are so blonde it looks like he doesnt have any, he has a sort of globular top of his head that looks vaguely like a crystal ball almost, hes pasty with a seeming complete lack of undertone to his skin, his arms are long and gangly.The guy looks weird as fuck and he would not look out of place in a dumpster outside of a 7/11
>>43322696BWC or high IQ manipulator
>>43322623It's not if the social standing is negatively affected for women and positively affected for men, society treats it as a win for men over women
>>43322699Nah. The guys a dipshit who fried his brain with weed and alcohol too. Hes one of the worst liars Ive ever met, and hes so grating to be around that in the 6 months Ive known him there has been 2 times that people Ive known have borderline murdered him in the absolute most literal sense.Guy is an absolute failure in every sense of the word to a degree that I am doing my best to put it to page here but I cannot, and he has a relatively cute gf.Its just that his gf is a sad lonely alcoholic who has no self respect.
>>43322588If that's how it is then so can menbut no, people have standards, don't they mr bot
>>43322719>then so can menchad can
why do incels hang out on this board
>>43322735Prolly cause fit lgbt and r9k all have the same general obsessions, appearence, the feeling of being oppressed and unwanted because of those appearences, and an absolute refusal to do anything about it. Nobody can tell you about male esthetics better than a tranny.It would also explain the repper, incel, gymcel overlap irl.
Modern men are genuinely repulsive, inside and out
>>43322764Plenty of them are fine don't overreact
>>43322735Most of us were incels before trooning
>>43322764This.
>>43322780Speak for yourself incel
>>43322496society is cruel to autists
>>43322496i hope they grow out of it consentually
>>43322794They probably won't, there isn't really an avenue for it
>>43322786I'm not an incel anymore ;)
>>43322775Idk where you live, but where i live they are rude and horrid>>43322785Ty anon
>>43322823>they are rude and horridhow
>>43322831Deliberately antagonistic, demand sex, rude when turned down, bad haircuts, slobs, far right. Its ridiculous how many men are openly racist, sexist, transphobic. I had one guy tell me hes straight, sex is binary, im not a woman and he wants to fuck me. What is going through that morons head
>>43322848I just go on the bus to the library and like to smoke weed in the park where do you meet these people
>>43322496I'm an incel but I still love trannies, cis girls are literally worthless
>>43322860They're British. You must live somewhere nice, being able to go outside
>>43322623I'm pretty sure those guys could install grindr too
>>43322895i'm from new zealand. and a poor bit. i don't believe all the men you meet are like this
>>43322900is not being able to get chad the equivalent to changing sexualities for roasties?
>>43322901I think you would be shocked how British men are. They're really thuggish and violent and just repulsive. Something like 65% of young women have a negative view of men, and its justified. I speak to my hairdresser and skin beautician, both confirm every single client complains about men. Its just the culture here, being nice or kind is very uncommon
>>43322939i think you just only notice bad men
>>43322913yes, mediocre dick is about as attractive to both of them, wanting to fuck every random man would be changing your sexuality
>>43322966This is why the third world is the future while the west is cooked btw
>>43323002third world's birth rates are plummeting all the same
>>43323025Nope. Africa still has 4-5 kids on average. Wonder why?
>>43322496Everyone has been progressively more isolated since the smartphone was invented, when the iphone came out I was already addicted to the internet but most normal people werent. With phones everyone got addicted to social media apps and there was less reason for people to go out to physically interact outside of mandatory interaction at school. Before the smartphone the amount of people who formed a relationship online was less than 5% of people, most people met at school or work. In current year its over 80%. Most people interact through dating apps. Everything is disposable and nobody can connect to eachother because there is nowhere to go to find connection because there is a simpler alternative that everyone is routed towards, because thats where everyone else is.
>>43322496Not my problem. Blame cisfoids for being mentally ill.
I can't wait till I'm 40 years old and old enough to date high schoolers
>>43323041Africa isn't a monolith retard. South Africa's went from 6+ in the late 60s to 2.2 and declining. It's a feature of developing economies to lose fertility since the more educated people are the less kids they have.
>>43322496Not having sex isn’t the same as being a self identified incel loserIt says adults not men We’re all busy af, also it’s them damn phones
>>43323426Thank you for saying this. Inceldom is a mind virus. I don't believe half of gen z are truly incels and if you believe that need to stop consuming the gogslop media.
>>43322609classic
>>43322496in a nutshell: men are oppressed sexually, socially, medically, and economically in ways that women are notthis is a horrible matriarchy we live in
>>43322588brutal trvke
>>43322609>3/10 woman complains about mediocre men>look inside>all sub-5 of men
>>43322609Women really do just want the moon, lmao
>>43322623nuclear trvke
>>43323527Weird right? The highest standards and then it's always an uggo making the demand.
>>43322669No. a lot of incels lack confidence due to having a shitty upbringing, so they blame women instead of doing the painful thing and looking inward. Half the men calling themselves incels aren't even incels btw. They're volcels, you actually have to be rejected over and over again by women to be considered an incel. But ofc, words on the Internet have no meaning anymore and the term incel isn't even used correctly half the time, so what do I know.
>>43323564>What do I knowApparently nothing, but you type anyways so
there’s no way the majority of men are incels and i still cant find a boyfriend bro what the fuckkkkkkk
>>43323570To be fair, the majority of men would never ever ever date a tranny. Maybe a small chunk would /fuck/ a tranny on the DL, but actually dating one long term...
>>43323570Literally just put on makeup and suck a dick. It's not hard.
>>4332249650% of men unable to get pussy is crazy. Cripples, retards, and addicts get girlfriends you fucking losers. Total millennial victory!
>>43323593I think a good chunk of that is probably not even interested in "getting pussy". Modern women are insane
>>43323598>Modern womenYou're a weirdo bro only weirdos say that. If you were normal you'd have had a nice gf by now.
the TRVKE women refuse to face is: they are whiny bitches. Women LITERALLY never had it better IN HISTORY than right now, and they are still whining ans bitching as if they are getting sent to Chud's Rape camps over their refusal to breed.There was NEVER a single point in history where men respected women, their opinions, their consent and their autonomy more than NOW. Women never had as much freedom than NOW. Women never could do as much stuff than NOW. And still, they somehow think they have it worse than in the imaginary past they cooked up after watching tiktok reels about how Big Chud is coming to gape al their holes.>oh no the modern day lets me be an engineer, get a divorce, choose between a plethora of men freely, own a bank account, a car and a house. I'm so oppressed REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>43322496I think it’s partially on society as a whole, pinning some insane expectations on guys, porn (adding more insane expectations) and women who have to appear “perfect” and whatnot, nuking every chance because the brains have rotted from both sides.Also some women, especially the “theyfab”/“pooner” kind, are deranged psychopath so I guess there is some other traumatised idiot like me.T. I’m a tranny
>>43323568>no rebuttal or criticism of my argument>"yOu nO kNow NoThInG, U StOoPid"Ok dumbass. sure.
>>43322496As long as I've been alive, it's known that out of shape men who spend all their time online instead of socializing IRL don't get laid. Now more men are out of shape and spend all their time online instead of socializing IRL and don't get laid
>>43323785This lolDon't get me wrong, there's a pretty heavy dose of "things are fucked because of social media" here but if you're an incel you have at least one share of the blame for your situation. I'd be happy to relieve an incel of their virginity (I'm in it for the love of the game) but desu I can barely stand chit chatting with alot of yall
>>43323802I do think there's a bit of disorder due to social media too.The people who were naturally nerds or outcasts probably knew this would happen since they were experiencing disconnect by the time they were six years old. By the time they reached 18, they either accepted it or figured out how to exist in some sort nerd or outcasts circles.But internet is now tempting enough to get a bunch of would-be normalfags too, so they get confused when they start doing the same shit nerds were doing and have to live with the consequences of that.
>>43322496Unironically the Internet and lack of education, experience.>t. almost got radicalised during gamergate when i was younger.
>>43322496Puts same to all the OG pioneers that used to be on r9k, their lives were genuinely fucked, now fags are just mad they haven't had sex at 18 without ever really trying.
>>43322496i have a conventionally attractive male coworker who only now lost his virginity in his mid 20s. his issue (which i think is the issue with a lot of men these days) is that they don't really put themselves out there and kinda just expect women to do all of the heavy lifting with initiating and everything. especially since there is the fear that their actions could very easily be misconstrued or mischaracterized.
>>43322609>>43322668>>43322676>>43322696>>43322710>>43322757>>43322785Avatarfagging is retarded and you should feel bad
>>4332398525 is a normal age to lose your virginity and im tired of pretending its not
>>43324050I think the global average is ~17 and the average in developed countries is 18-19 IIRC?
>>43322496Zoomer boys should just suck each other’s dicks, it’s easy.Part of the problem seems to be that the internet has made it easier to find communities of people with similar interests and opinions. You can avoid people you don’t have much in common with, and consequently you never have to learn how to talk to and get along with people different from yourself. Men and women tend to have a lot of differing interests and consume different media, so a conversation can run out of material pretty quickly if neither party is willing or able to take an interest in what the other is saying.I’m guessing dudes are getting left behind here partly because they’re the one’s generally expected to take the initiative (this isn’t particularly fair imo), and also because so much media aimed at them is meant to feed their grievances and turn them into whiny little bitches.
>>43324105Not a bad take. The internet is destroying our societies.
>>43324074idk like half of all people are chronically single nowadays so that number has definitely risen.
gen z just gets more based every day
>>43324140Google AI summary:>The average age for losing one's virginity is generally between 17 and 18 years old in many Western countries, including the U.S. and UK. Globally, this average varies by culture and region, ranging from as early as 15–16 in Nordic countries to over 22 in nations like Malaysia and India. Doesn't look like it, really. Normies are fucking the same way they always have. *shrug*
>>43322496just in general, zoomers were told why not to do certain things or fall for grifts, and they argued until they were blue in the face 'no it will be good ackshully' just like they were told not to do other things like nicotine products cos it messes w/ collagen, and now they're bringing smoking back to look like old bums by the time they're 30oh wells~
zoomer hatred is so dumbit's literally like this with every generation I remember when everyone shit on millenials until they in turn started shitting on the zoomerszoomers will shit on gen alpha the same way in a few yearsnothing ever happens in fact
>>43322496men younger than 23 are lowkey hopeless and undateable because of too much incel brainrot
>>43324306Why specifically 23 year old as a cutoff? Seems oddly specific XD
>>43324105But I don’t want to talk about horoscopes and shit
>>43324330i've found men as young as 24 to be dateable
>>43324170i think its pretty common to get a gf in high school when everyone is peak horniness and then have a drought for like a decade
>>43322496like I know incels and it's sad not the sex partthe not really being socially integrated and having irl friends and stuff if incels rallied around anything but sex they'd be 100% right that being saidmen and women want different thingsmen want their pp suckedwomen want long term romantic relationshipsany woman can get dick easy but so can anyone it's about being emotionally connected to the person attached to the dickalso like I knew an incel who started hitting the club every week and despite being creepy they got a gf so like there is hope anons
>>43323785Hey I'm in shape but I still spend all of my time online
>>43324494This I would agree with, ya. But losing your virginity after your mid-twenties means you're an abomination that every normal person would turn their back to in shame. A complete social failure who can never be normal. Because 25 is just not a normal age to lose your virginity at.>t. 28 year old virgin
>>43324482Aha, I see. So it's personal experience.
>>43324527you need to get fucked so you'll stop sounding like such a crybaby bitch
>>43324521>like I know incels and it's sad>not the sex part>the not really being socially integrated and having irl friends and stuffYeah, that's true. I sometimes feel like men make everything about sex, when they're really trying to say "I wish I was a normal person with a normal life"
>>43324545No Anon I can't let anyone touch me and it's too late now
>>43324354ntaUnfortunately, to get with the other gender, you must show curiosity in their bullshit. The positive to this is that you could also try to teach your hobbies to women, it goes both ways
>>43322496when i was a boy i was scared of sex so i didn't try to have it but once i became a girl it became less scary and i started having it..i wonder if more boys should become girls so they can have sex?
>>43324527Let me take your v card anon
>>43324645No. I've made my peace with dying a virgin. Having sex wouldn't fix any of my issues. And at this point, I view being a permavirgin as an act of personal rebellion against a sick & broken world. But thank you for the offer. That's nice of you.
>>43322588So can men. Suggesting women have sex with a guy they're not attracted to isnt any different than telling a guy who cant bag a girl to go have gay sex with an old man.
>>43324050i mean it's definitely on the later end but im not gonna give weird looks to someone around that age who says their a virgin or judge someone for something so petty. especially since im really not experienced in sex at all despite losing it at 19.
>>43324590Why does everything have to go both ways? I want to reap benefits without putting in effort >:(
>>43323985>is that they don't really put themselves out there and kinda just expect women to do all of the heavy lifting with initiating and everythingMen arent lonely enough
>>43323578Men deserve their misery
>>43322951No, i notice men. You live in a complete bubble.
>>43322496It's half their fault and half the fault of declining material conditions. The world is going to shit but their attitudes do them no favors. I've been on /r9k/ for as long as /r9k/ has existed and honestly most incels are just young men getting in their own way and coalescing around ideologies that propose simple answers to their problems.I've been friends w/ some incels and honestly a lot of them seem to get better with a little social support.
>>43324892You could try only doing the sharing part. It would probably stand out at least, because I keep hearing women complain about men being secretive about their interests.
>>43322496men have always been conditioned to be unlikeable assholes and we now live in a world where women have the ability to tell them to fuck off
>>43322496young men are a plague upon this earth. males are so horrible I transitioned to stop being associated with them.
I’m a cis gay male but desu sometimes I masturbate to videos of women being beaten by men; it’s genuinely satisfying to see them get knocked out of their false sense of superiorityHow cooked am I
>>43325875I've always thought I'll be treated like an unlikable asshole so I've never even tried anything with women despite being nothing like that.You people are evil
>>43326215Overcooked anon. Think we’re gonna have to just throw you in the dumpster I’m afraid
I have a few thoughts as a late 20s straight tranner1. Good, sex is gross and for degenerative brained freaks 2. Good, the less sex with retarded cvntoid whores the more likely straight men will to be open with a trans woman or boymoder/manmoder who will actually appreciate them, love them, treat them with respect and have actual empathy and relatable opinions and interests. 3. I forget what the third thing was gonna be sorry But generally I think that hookup culture and swinging too far into sex positivity is what caused this. Sex is gross and should be kept behind closed doors, sex does not substitute actual love, and hookup culture and hypergamy destroy trust and the fabric of society.
