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How do I'm know if I am a trutrans when I look a this board and other social media and I see how trans woman talk about their dysphoria I can't relate as much and everyone else and when i really sit and think about if I actually am or not I feel so stressed out and idk why, fuck is really stupid to wish that I have dysphoria as bad as other people so I can finally feel sure of what I want
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>>43330597
silly nona, trutrans isnt real
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>>43330597
Yk i got advice from this one lady who detransed but basically got everything done all the surgeries and shit maybe it was a larp maybe it wasn’t but basically she said a lot of people like to play up their dysphoria to make their trutrans status seem more grand than it actually is so don’t really sweat it if you still want put everything in your soul into transitioning does it really matter if you’re trutrans or not
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>>43330656
Idk I just wish to be sure of what the fuck I am
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>>43330756
That’s just human existence but whatever you do just make sure you do 100% no half assing shit pls
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>>43330597
Dysphoria is AGP-exclusive
I transitioned and I didn't have dysphoria
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>>43330597
is it your heart's fondest wish to be a woman? You're trutrans
imposter syndrome hits all of us, but if you were faking you'd know you were faking
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>>43333500
That's the thing idk is it my heart to be a woman what I wish it to be completely isolated of society and live alone in a house in the mountains but that would never happen so if I have to be perceived in this society a prefer to be seen as a woman than a man , does that make sense?
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>>43333577
wanting to get the fuck away from everyone is totally valid
is there a reason you don't wish to be seen as a man?
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>>43333599
I don't know and I really fucking wish to know but I can't and thinking about it just stressed me out I'm fucking crying right now just because I can't answer some stupid question I'm such a loser
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>>43333651
actually, that answer is pretty good. I never knew why I didnt like being a boy, or outright hated being a man. There was no logic to it, I just knew I was supposed to be a girl

what attracts you to the idea of being a woman?
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>>43333725
I guess having more of a feminine body having a more variety of clothes, knowing if I was a woman I will simply be treated differently by other people
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>>43333780
also a good answer
have you begun transition or are you waiting to be sure?
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>>43333875
Just a month in hrt so i don't have any changes I hope when the changes began I feel sure if a want this or not
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>>43330597
>fuck is really stupid to wish that I have dysphoria as bad as other people so I can finally feel sure of what I want
I have no idea what has happened to being a tranny in the past 10 years where people think dysphoria is affirming or validating. Dysphoria is literally about being a piece of shit nature-fail imitation of something else. It is knowing that every part of you and your experiences are second-grade alien intrusions that do not belong in the mode of being your brain feels is natural. It is just genuinely body horror, spiritual horror, and social horror. Every part of it is horrible. I have never felt more abysmal about anything else in my life and it changed my personality irrevocably for the worse when I was forced to deal with it during puberty. Every time I looked on TV or talked to anyone all I could think about was how ugly and wicked my place was and how much of an uncomfortably out of taste joke my innermost feelings and desires would be to others. I just don't understand why you people want to do this or what is the appeal to being a tranny for you other than trying to scrape together some semblance of a less soul crushingly disgusting life. It doesn't work anyway, I am a passoid and relatively attractive so transitioning "worked" out for me, but you will never clean the stain of alienation and "wrongness" off of your entire life. I'll never have had the "right" childhood, the "right" socialization, my participation in anything is an affect, a conscious artifact of a deliberate choice, never simply natural, never simply expected, it is always contrivance and imitation. Life turned the most genuine feelings in me into mimicry with cruel and imaginative transfigurations. Transition made me a deeply cynical and twisted personality. I expect nothing from people but cruelty and alienation and to cope with it I present myself as a joke or clown constantly. Just enjoy not being dysphoric
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>>43333937
I wish I could say for sure whether you should continue. Are you experiencing the mental changes? Do you like or hate them?
I guess it's going to come down to this: if you want to become a woman, become a woman. Don't worry about being trutrans or whatever, just pursue what makes sense to you
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>>43333978
Dysphoria is such a vague concept t's easy to blame your general life failure on dysphoria and cling to the trans narrative instead of taking responsibility and getting a job. I'm just skeptical of all the failed transitioners online who think having a compelling sob story automatically means they have some authentic insight into dysphoria and the trans condition.
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>>43334164
>I'm just skeptical of all the failed transitioners online who think having a compelling sob story automatically means they have some authentic insight into dysphoria and the trans condition.
I wouldn't consider my transition failed, anyone who is a tranny is going to experience a lot of quite horrible things. I pass and am relatively happy with my body.
>>43334164
>cling to the trans narrative instead of taking responsibility and getting a job.
I don't know what kind of retarded jordan peterson talking point this is or how it relates to how being a tranny is miserable. If you subjectively can't distinguish between dysphoria and general life woes (of which there are many to be had) then you don't have dysphoria. It's a very acutely obvious feeling
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>>43334227
I didn't mean you specifically but also, it's so funny how you determine that I don't have dysphoria simply because I said I was skeptical. Just because someone says they have something doesnt mean it's true. A lot of people are liars and a lot of people are too dumb to figure out what's what.
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>>43334242
>so funny how you determine that I don't have dysphoria simply because I said I was skeptical.
I didn't say you don't have it. I said if internally, you experience both dysphoria and general life woes, it is very clear which is which. At times softer shades of both can blur into one another, but the acute bodily dysphoria and social dissonance is very obvious and blatant.
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>>43334268
^
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>>43334017
I mean I experience the mental change and I dont really like the rollercoaster of emotions but I think nobody really likes that
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>>43334268
I think the only thing that can actually convince me someone is trutrans is if they went through transition and haven't desisted for many many years.

Any autistic man can say he feels an accute sense of social alienation and physical distress due to his natal sex. It doesn't mean anything to me if some chucklefuck says it but failed to take any steps to address that beyond threatening suicide.
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>>43333978
>I just don't understand why you people want to do this or what is the appeal to being a tranny
I don't really know either I try to not thinking about for 4 years and the feeling but that I might be like this this never go away , and I'm really sorry if my post looks that i envy the crippled for being in wheelchair while I just get a slightly pain in the feet I guess I just wanna relate to anyone, but you right I just have to enjoy not being dysphoric
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How to know if you're trutrans:
Are you under 20? Troon out before you bald and kys.
Are you over 20? You already have hairloss you just haven't noticed it yet. Your jaw is thickening. Etc. It's over and you should repress at this point instead of being an embarrassment. You have a better shot making it as a man.

>t. Knew I was trans since 13, transed too late at 23, then again at 26, before giving up because diy hrt gave me osteoporosis, my mom said "I hope you're not a fucking tranny" and crushed my soul, and genuinely, nobody, not even other queer people, will ever take you seriously. At best, you are pitied as a joke.

There's no "trutrans." If you're thinking about this shit you're trans and you need to get on the train before it's too late and there's no point hopping on anyways. Genuinely you are a retard thinking in terms of "trutrans" and "faketrans". Do you want balding? Troon or don't Troon. It's fucking easy choice but the longer you wait the harder you make the choice because of sunk cost fallacy and missed opportunity.

Fuck intellectualizing it and wasting time on what is a time sensitive matter. Consider your priorities: transition is primarily aesthetic. Choose your aesthetic goals and then intellectualize whether you're a skinwalker later. The time I spent wasted thinking about transitioning could have salvaged my transition. You will crack eventually anyways, and then it really won't be pretty when you're a full ass man trooning out.
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>>43334668
That the funny thing how I see now I only have two paths
I am really trans but I convinced myself that I'm not and ended up realizing that I was until 40 so the best thing I would have is being some shit of sissy crossdresser
Or that I'm not really and continue taking the hormones and change my body until I actually have dysphoria and ended up with with a body that don't feel like me



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