I'm a cis lesbian and youtube has pushed me into the "gender critical" pipeline. Recently I've watched a lot of content about AGP, trans widows, detransitioners etc. It seems like some of you guys are real perverts. Previously I thought that AGP is pseudoscience and that MtFs just want to feel "sexy" as most women do but it seems it's way more than that. Some of the shit you do to get off is super weird (and obviously not "womanly"). Knowing this I now find it difficult to see any trans women as women and to trust them and it applies to even the most "trutrans" ones. But I thought I'll give you a chance to explain yourself. Is there anything I need to know before I satrt calling myself a TERF?
go back
are you not in fact a polish cis male repper?
Not really you may as well be a terf. I self identify as 'trutrans' and it's virtually meaningless to defend strangers to a stranger when I think the trannies are incels and the terfs are femcels in essence. You will get people shitting out lazy rehashed opinions about terfs being masculinized brains or agp being whatever meme meaning it has now but if you somehow benefit from being a terf than be one. Its not really likely the trannies around you are going to be good people or add to your life in some way.
>>43356786>letting youtube and 4chan decide your views on the world and other people
>>43356786I support trannies because I'm a chud and hate women
>>43356786The existence of manmoders disproves "gender critical".
>>43356786>It seems like some of you guys are real pervertshow many? what kind of percentage? because you can find a lot of perverts in basically any demographic>Previously I thought that AGP is pseudoscience and that MtFs just want to feel "sexy" as most women do but it seems it's way more than thatbased on what? the only "scientific" study of it was blanchard, and it was bunk when he created his model, and there's been no other study on it>Some of the shit you do to get off is super weird (and obviously not "womanly").there are people that fuck cars, again, what are the stats or you're just letting anecdotes disgust you which is not a reasonable reason to dehumanise trans peopleyou know I know of some cis lesbian child molesters, not even making that up, should this mean I stop seeing lesbians as women, or see your sexuality as predatory?alas I find it difficult to accept you don't need therapy to stop being a homosexual (paedophile).... it's not womanly
>>43356786If your mindset is such that watching random youtube videos informs your worldview then no logical arguments can change your beliefs anyway can you name actual specific grievances besides 'some terminally online trannies are weirdo sexpests' which applies to every group including cis womenoh my bad you won't because this is a bait thread sorry for falling for it
>>43356786Just call yourself a TERF and get off our board, I don't give a fuck
>>43356786>Some of the shit you do to get off is super weird (and obviously not "womanly").such as? How do you know what I do to get off, let alone every single tranny? I know there's like a 50% chance this is a bait thread, but I'll bite.
>>43356786What's wrong with being AGP?
>>43356786"I recently started consuming vast amounts of propaganda Im mad now"Sure.
poopoo peepee
>>43356786Is picrel one of those videos of people complaining about their spouses being trans? It's not really any different when people complain about their spouses ending up gay or lesbian, but the fact that people take the term "trans widow" seriously when they'd laugh off the idea of a "gay widow" is absurd.
>>43356786What do you think of cis homosexual men who happen to take estrogen?
sitting shiva to somebody then complaining about it lol
>>43356953>such as?using women's spaces, sitting to pee, breastfeeding, breast forms, pretending you have a period, pretending you're pregnant, wearing diapers, everything that has to do with the word "sissy", making up new "lore" of yourself and expecting everyone to play along and I'm sure there's much more.
>>43357258yeah it's easy to make people look like creeps when you rip their words out of context, you can pass judgement on their ideas when you actually engage with them in good faith honalso cite some examples of each of those things you listed
>>43357258incredible how everything you people get mad at trannies for is something I've read almost word for word from classic feminist authors.
>>43357258>wearing diapers>everything that has to do with the term "sissy"Gosh I love being a little diaper doll sissy! My Mommy changes my diapers and calls me cute and puts me in nice frilly dresses :3
>>43357258I get off to the thought of topping other trannies and making them moan like little whores, I don't do any of that shit. Anyways, either I got baited or you were never that pro-trans to begin with if some trannies with fringe kinks was enough to potentially sway you.
>>43356786people are individuals
>>43356786No, agps only view women and feminity as a fetish to make them come. They don't see women as real people because their concept of womanhood is a fetish.
>>43357258Those people aren't me.
>>43357258>I want to be sexually objectified Yeah we fucking know Jacob
>>43356976>Everything that doesn't support my viewpoint is le propaganda.
>>43356786all women are terfs I'm happy you finally found yourself, please enjoy being a bigot to feed your fragile ego.As a trans women I see nothing wrong with hating most other women for arbitrary reasons too.
>>43357356None of these are out of context hon
>>43357586yes they are hon
>>43357577>Trannies avoiding cis f of having fragile egos kek
>>43357606I mean I can admit I'm flawed human being why do women specifically pretend that their farts don't stink. There's nothing wrong with being yourself
>>43357575Calling something propaganda is morally neutral. There's no need to get defensive about someone calling something you like and agree with propaganda. I like and agree with communist propaganda, and I don't get mad when people call it propaganda.
>>43357650>Calling something propaganda is morally neutralNo it's not. Especially if your assertion is inaccurate.
>>43357666Why do you think propaganda is inherently bad?
>>43357650You were clearly using it in the pejorative sense
>>43357689>YouThat wasn't me.
>>43356786Please forgive me for being an AGP pervert.
>>43357547Maybe if women have only one conceptual standard to meet, and they still fail to do it, then perhaps they just suck at being women? If trannies can mog you at your own game then well, sucks to be you
>>43357668Because it is by nature deceptive.
>>43357714It is a mistake to think that women "have only one conceptual standard to meet", whatever that may mean. That's what apgs believe, but they are wrong
>desires can be formed in people that go against their own liberation>the idea of a sex object is simplified>transphobia is so shit that when it's swapped for sexism it's strangely affirming>people internalise stuff and society sees submission and being penetrated as female-ness (see the assumption that gay bottoms are more feminine than gay tops)>people think they control porn but actually it affects and changes them in the same way people think they can own their attraction to women but actually those women change how men behave, also here the same thing about society constructing womenness around being penetrated and a recipient of sex rather than a participant>some hideously cut up and reorganised segments of who knows what, first sentence is true that is the narrative, second point is true we demand perfect victims that behave in a perfect way, third point is strangely put I think they just mean children don't act in the ideal story book way, they're interested in things they should not be, they do things they should not do, they haven't yet learned what is appropriate and what it considered correct for their gender and sexualityall quite basic feminism really
>>43356786I mean /r9k/ pulled me down the incel pipeline. From your point of view it's probably baffling that I used to hate you based on a few internet videos. I'm still not a fan of cis women but I'm smart enough to realise that everybody is different and these echo-chambers push a singular narrative with no nuance.
>>43356786OP I'm sure you are either a larp or a bot but regardless on the non existent chance that this is real. I'm sure there are people who are much more patient and willing to explain to you why everything you think about trans women is wrong like a fucking child because you clearly cannot be trusted to fall for the world's most obvious grift. But from the bottom of my heart I wish a lot of harm onto you, and then I hope society turns you into their scapegoat of the hour so you experience even a slimmer of the suffering people like you cause onto innocent trans people
>>43358603>slimmer
>>43358829im esl give me a break alright
>>43356786you are falling for psyopsnothing anyone says on youtube is ever worth listening to. read books, read papers (or even blog posts would be better) and talk to people IRL. video rots your brain.i cannot begin to rebut everything you've seen because the literal factual content of it has never been the point, it's about a person's voice and face creating a framing which tricks your brain into thinking that absurdities are socially reasonable to believe. people come out of this type of content believing every absurdity you can think of and some you can't.
>>43358940esl theyfab.... a fate worse than death
nona a lot of these people are freaks. i myself am a freak. but these transgender women you are so upset at are like this because of the "f" the feminism and not the "t" transgenderism. male socialization dehumanizes women and boils them down to a very flexible but harmful stereotype. you want these people to be well adjusted in their sex lives? you haze them. you criticize them and you hold yourself over them and lecture them. you include them with the rest of the girls and you snap at them when they have some freakishly male conception or creepy mannerism. either they break under the weight and detrans or they start understanding what youre talking about and comprehend female socialization. young transitioners who look female and have support from family and friends will be well adjusted. they live under the pressure and stress of being female just as much as you do. the only way to give that mentality to the 20 something transitioner is to force it upon them in a brutal way or help them pass to the point where they do share the same fears and grievances that you do. no im not talking about "force feminization" or whatever fetishistic bullshit those stupid sissies are peddling. i mean helping them have naturalistic femininity that can be pushed and broken through with intention, just as cis women do.
>>43356786It it kinda simple, some trannies are fetishists, maybe even most are, but to suggest that the fetish is the MAIN driver for them to transition is absurd, they would just be crossdressers fuck women and live normal lives if not for dysphoria.also no matter how online fetishistic agps are in real world it is much less common and trannies irl are just normal
>>43356786Once you realize the problem is just white men instead of trans people youll stop being transphobic. Basically all the pervert trannies are white and started HRT after 20. White men are responsible for 70% of child porn arrests. White people and jews point at white trannies to distract from heinous white sex crimes, but you can just Google "sex crimes" and sort by date and youll see who the perverts are
>>43359182(cont.) womanhood can be many things but knowing nothing about growing up and living as a woman is not one of them. i know biologically female people with the most fucked up and rancid perverse fantasies humanly possible, that completely transcend the archetype of the model feminist or model woman. and i still notice an acute difference in how these perverse ideas are expressed. people need to help them become male perverts that pervert femaleishly and not just male perverts crossdressing.
>>43357258nigga just google "how many cis women have rape fantasies"
>>43356977thiss
oh my god how are at least 20 of you this stupid
>>43359182I am genuinely hoping someone like you helps me along. I either get acceptance or ignorance, I already had a neglected childhood, I NEED someone to help me figure this shit out
>>43359332here are some tips1) start observing and interacting with cis women. branch out of your comfort zone. try to get into hobbies that a lot of women are into. listen to female commentators within hobbies you already have.2) you need to understand fashion. you can make yourself stick out like a sore thumb by dressing in a way thats indicative of how men percieve and treat women. or you can push the boundaries of fashion in an intentional and intelligent way. if youre into alt fashion and dont pass you should genuinely be taking from genderqueer people who grew up as women. if youre into lolita its super easy to get caught into the fetishistic zeitgeist of wanting to dress up as your favorite character: oftentimes someone written and designed by men for the sake of appeal. contrast that with women's lolita culture. you want expressive, not sexual. womens fashion for women is (broadly) expressive. mens fashion for women is sexual. over time you can lean into sexual but thats a very nuanced line and crossing it in some ways can be dangerous. i only gave a few examples but this advice applies to all fashion no matter what youre interested in.3) empathize, dont internalize. there are many women who have many perspectives. some may like you. some may hate you. investigate into why. use your empathy. dont shut it off because you feel scared by their hate or misconceptions about you. it hurt but crystalcafe opened my eyes to a lot of things. the full story isnt there, theyre very pitiful and angry people, but a lot of them are honest about what they find frustrating. more than anyone they will state outright what separates the culture of cis women from trans women. but obviously, dont internalize the idea that youre a bad bad bad evil pervert for having a genuine mental condition.
>>43356786>I'm a cis lesbianLmao no you're not.YWNBAW
>>43357258Wanting to be oppressed and objectified the like women because they think that makes them down is profoundly repellent.
>>43358496>I mean /r9k/ pulled me down the incel pipelineIt's not 4chan's fault that you're retarded
>>43358603>Telling a woman you good society turns get into their scapegoat Lmao
>>43357821>Getting fucked makes you female Lol yeah classic feminism bro
>>43358603Omg shut the fuck up theyfab
>>43359332How do you need help becoming a woman if you're already a woman?
>>43356786lol @ Shannonwhy do they all look like THAT?
>>43356786Imagine letting your worldview be informed by the straights whining about how awful they are
>>43357258> using women's spacesyou ultimately see trans women as men and you see them a threat to women's spaces, but in reality - estrogen makes their "innate male strength" disappear almost to the 95%- trans women are unsafe on the male spaces as cis women are unsafe with trans women. may even be worse. male bathrooms without stalls are incredibly more unsafe for trans women as you get cis men watching their naked bodies and feminine appearance.you don't care about trans women, that's all. but genuinely live your life however you want even if you harm people along the way. it's up to you to think whatever you want and be an asshole if that suffices you> sitting to peenormal cis men do that. i'm ftm so i don't know how it is to have a penis at allbut i know many men (specially those who don't have super large penises) pee while sitting sometimes. i asked a guy about this once and he told me it's pretty normal when you're gonna shit. you wouldn't shit while standing> breastfeedingno normal trans woman would do this. you are literally eating a psyop like it's yummy chocolate.and if by ""breastfeeding"" you mean adults licking trans women's breasts when having sex. Maybe you're Just an idiot and that's a You problem.> breast formswhat does this means?? genuinely?? do you mean like, trans women describing how their boobs look? or you mean you don't like how they look? or you just hate the fact HRT makes women have boobs?
>>43359988you dont know do you sweet summer child good good
>>43356891>based on what? the only "scientific" study of it was blanchard, and it was bunk when he created his model, and there's been no other study on iton this board, people generally recognize that autogynephilia is real. many here--some trans, some not--even identify as AGP. many joke about it, but some are serious.there's no point in taking this tack. everyone understands why r/mtf popularized the phrase "euphoria boner" until their mods started to concern themselves with "optics"
>>43360024>trans women on 4chan think agp is real so it has to be
>>43359997womenhood is an ascetic by your metric, I also think boiling womenhood down to socialization is reductive.
>>43358603people blame trans women for this but some of the most obnoxious TRAs are cis women with they pronouns
>>43360074yup it is a larp if youre male. copers gotta cope. no way around reality
do you retards genuinely believe that an actual female made this thread
>>43360101no but its fun talking to him
>>43359689Because I'd like to blend in with them mentally dummy.Just labelling myself as a #validwoman isn't gonna make us accepted by other women.>>433595171) It's hard to know what hobbies women are into, I listen to alot of female content creators and I watch shows recommended to me by cis friends and family. It's hard to push myself to interact with more cis women because I am VERY scared of being a stereotype, I don't want to make anyone regardless of sex uncomfortable and I've always been introverted, so the idea of just walking up to someone because they're someone I want to be like is paralyzing.2) fashion is really hard too, we know what kind of person we want to look like (Neither a fetish or for the masculine gaze), and we know in theory what outfit components go cute together (as much as we can at least so far), but given how shy we are its incredibly scary to go thrifting. However I've been told that we dress anywhere from normally to cute save people trying to overtly be insulting.Picrel is an example of some outfits we find cute.3) thank you for letting us know about crystalcafe, we won't intrude but it would be a good source to observe.
>>43357258> pretending you have a periodnever happened, again. there might be trans women who refer to their cramps as a period (cuz they are caused by the same thing, i think it's progesterone as far as i know) but it's never serious. never has been.> pretending you're pregnantnever happened, again. look, i'm gonna hold your hand and you're gonna repeat after me. "there's millions of trans women in the world. what 4 privileged white mentally ill freaks posted on their social media to get attention and clout does not defines what the dozens of millions of normal trans woman do with their lives"and if by "trans women pretending to be pregnant" you mean intersex women with male dna. get the fuck out. or better, go to study more biology. > wearing diapersageplayers weirdos with urinal issues. not a trans thing. they romanticize their bullshit to cope.> everything that has to do with the word "sissy""yeah totally, this slur towards trans women actually means these trans women love and enjoy this community of sick weirdos and are a part of it. truly.sissy is a slur for trans women and sissies are a completely different thing from them. like incomparable.> making up new "lore" of yourself and expecting everyone to play alongwhat does this even mean? is changing ur name making up lore?you just hate trans women then.i watched the image you adjuncted, and i do know for a fact many "trans women" think like this. but i know too many cis women think like that too.many sex workers ""like"" the sexualization of sex work. not because of genuine liking, but because of the feminization they feel that comes with it. it's not good. it's really bad. it's a problem the patriarchy created to force women into submission.gender is natural to us because we are meant to recognize what we are and what others are, we are social human beings who need to form interactions with others and mentally we group us with one another.(2/3)
>>43357258however the patriarchy takes away our gender to assign it roles we are expected to perform and intends to strip away from us our neurological-psychological sense of ourselves so we can submit ourselves to the expected roles. men will forcibly put women into degrading sexualizing positions and normalize these conducts in society, and while many women can see through its manipulation and defy these ideals, other women fall victim to patriarchy and sexualize themselves and let themselves be coercively sexualized in order to reclaim the womenhood that men want to take away from them if they don't submit.this is why this extends to cis women and trans women. because when patriarchy takes away your gender, only returning it to you if you fit the roles they want you to fulfill, many would degrade themselves in order to reclaim their womenhood, even if they are sexually abused and exploited during the process. even if they, as women, are turned into misogynistic sheeps of the patriarchy.this is how you see so many sex workers who swear "I'm not raped, I do this for my own volition! I love this job, it makes me feel empowered!".but i want to highlight many of these "trans women" are just true AGP freaks.they are the men who upheld these ideals of female submission and femininity as a degrading thing. i put "trans women" in quotations cuz they aren't trans women. they are sissies who larp as trans women. trans women have a different culture from sissies and you can see it the way each group expresses themselves. if you really hate trans women, refrain from interacting with us. but if you genuinely want to learn, listen to us. not to those weirdo freaks.sorry if i was aggressive on the first replies.
>>43359218holy baseda white terf will never accept this trvke though, since they prefer their white supremacism over actually realizing who are the fucked up sissy fetichists desu
>>43359997i like when ppl reply to what i say cohesively what is this supposed to mean
>>43356786>Is there anything I need to know before I satrt calling myself a TERF?Yes, the following:You do not have the right to dictate what any one does with their body.You do not have the right to dictate what clothing any one wears.You do not have the right to dictate what words any one uses to describe themselves.You do not have the right to dictate whether any one gets divorced.You do not have the right to slander, libel, or harass any one.It’s that simple.
>>43360084males and females don't existthe concept of a biological binary is a social construct also ur brain mosaic can determine how you're gonna identify and tranny brains are phenotypically different enough from cis brains to be notedbasically being trans is a sexually adjacent neurological illness
>>43360084i mean what the fuck do you expect trannies to do? how else do you think they would engage with womanhood. yeah theyre incomplete thats why the condition exists. do you expect them to sew on a womans torso and have the authentic real experience of having that lower torso of a real woman? idiocy
gender critical feminism is based as fuckI hate trannies so goddamn much
Feminism-critical trannies are based as fuckI hate feminists so goddamn much
>>43360110og replier here. dont discard your "male" interests if u think u need to, being your own person is important i def agree with that. oftentimes being a good fit for female spaces isnt "playing into female stereotypes" but rather disengaging from male stereotypes or behavior that unintentionally makes people uncomfortable. social awareness is your friend and being female passing means having a level of comfort in that role. which is a big ask i know.>>43360310i agree with vaush on this one. bimodal characteristics with exceptions. but yeah a lot of it is constructed. gender is performance. butler spoke on this ages ago>>43360450then you arent engaging in good faith. you should end your life anon>>43360261sissy fetishists are real and horrifying and have a massive impact on t culture esp on reddit and in adjacent femboy spaces. they do wear and use "breast forms".
>>43356875Based transwoman > woman argument that I am also privy to (I am a knower)
>>43356786>admitting to being spoonfed a worldview by an algorithm
>>43360404>i mean what the fuck do you expect trannies to do?medically detransition
>>43360463same, nobody that's not brainwashed with incredibly misandrist koolaid would be a feminist at this pointt. pooner
I don't see lesbians as real women. The things they do to get off are disgusting and unfeminine.
Wow. These are pretty mild. You'd be shocked by what ciswomen get off to.
yes there are many things you should know. Namely:>Feminism is a retarded ideology >Men are better than women intellectually, physically and creatively >DEI and institutionalized man hate are the reasons so many foids are getting jobs and college degreesTrannies are retarded too, though. Hope you can grow out of it
>>43356786The key thing to realize is that AGP is the underlying motivation of 95%+ of AMAB transitions, whether they identify as trans women, trans fems, nonbinary, demigirl, demiboy, etc.AGP is autoheterosexuality in natal males. (AAP is the female equivalent.) It's heterosexuality except you are your own partnering target. Being your natal sex thus causes the same frustration that an alloheterosexual (heterosexuality directed at other people i.e. regular heterosexuality) male would experience were he forced to be in a romantic and/or sexual relationship with another man 24/7 with no way of escaping that other man, not even going out of the house for a smoke or a walk.Autoheterosexuals are effectively trapped in a relationship with a person of the wrong sex for their sexuality. "Gender dysphoria" is that frustration. "Gender euphoria" is the elation arising from finally effectively being in a relationship with a partner they can view as the correct sex for their sexuality.This explains the old phenomenon of crossdressers developing a female persona and feeling a need to spend increasing amounts of time "en femme" to the point that not even doing it full-time is enough to relieve the desperate urge to appear female, at which point they typically sought out medical transition.It can show up nonsexually in prepubertal children. Any trans person whose natal sex characteristics caused them distress as a young child and later transitioned because of that distress is autoheterosexual. It can show up early and nonsexually in the same way that prepubertal children can develop display platonic crushes on other children.The dysphorics, the euphorics, the transmeds, the crossdressers, and the fetishists all have the same etiology.
>>43360845why? theyre not real women anyways according to you. are you that entitled that estrogen should purely to the female sex, t to the male sex? that sounds boring
>>43360845Please tell me how to medically detransition my vaginoplasty back into my original dick and balls.
>>43361190I read through all of this and this is actually really insightful and a different lens to approach the problem from. I've been searching up autoheterosexuality and alloheterosexuality but haven't found much. Is there a book or some studies anywhere that I can read more about this? I feel pretty excited thinking about this and ii'm not sure where to go next. Oh and thank you for typing all this out, it's very insightful.
>>43356786I don't need to explain or answer for the behavior of other people. Do you go into black communities and demand that they answer for every inner city gangbanger? Of course not..so don't ask me this shit.
>>43356786larp. real women are lousy with deranged kinks. Mtf usually only circle around puppy play, edge play, cnc, and abdl. Afabs are into actually evil shit like home wrecking and cucking
>>43362753You're very welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful!Phil Illy has a book and a website about autoheterosexuality: https://www.autoheterosexual.com/Anne Onymous has a blog in which she writes about AGP: https://anneonymousa.substack.com/United Transsexuals has this blogpost about autoheterosexuality: https://anonymouslytranssexual.substack.com/p/not-with-a-woman-but-as-a-woman
Based on the 0% chance that you aren't larping, no. There's nothing to say to you. You're already convinced of all these ideas, and they're all unfalsifiable lol. I've tried to talk people flirting with right wing and terf stuff (they are different ideologies) off the ledge before and with terf stuff specifically it's literally pointless, and paradoxically it's literally because they're arguing in good faith. Right wingers and terfs both believe all kinds of insane unfalsifiable shit but right wingers can be talked out of it because most of them don't actually believe in what they're saying in the first place. I don't wish you well or anything, go fuck yourself, but like yeah there's literally just no point.
>>43356786>explain something u didn't do or I'll hold u accountable for somebody else's porn addict behaviorfascinating, really, like u can't see this apply to urself at all lmao
>>43356786OP is an indian heterosexual man living in his parent's basement
>>43356786>But I thought I'll give you a chance to explain yourselfI don't need to explain myself, what other trannies do has nothing got to do with me
>>43360436> women can bear children, men don'tinfertile women? women without uteruses, vaginas, ovaries? women with dysfunctional uteruses or ovaries or other sexual organs?> women bleed once a monthas a pre T trans man this is so gender affirming because i, indeed, don't bleed once a month. i basically never bleed> women develop womanly gender-specific sexual characteristicsdo you know people born male can develop these too? there's ppl born XY with vaginas. men who naturally grow boobs. etc. many such casesthere's many ppl with many different sexual characteristics, scrambled with each other. men like me born with some female characteristics, but lacking others. on testosterone i would develop some masculine characteristicsunfortunately you don't realize sex is made by characteristics that can be grouped together in many different ways, it's just that it's more convenient for reproduction specific combinations so those are what ppl are commonly born with. but nature doesn't draw straight lines, never.also, thank you for telling me i'll never be a real woman, that was particularly very gender affirming for me. i am now, very happy about it. yay! iwnbarw!!
>>43360573i didn't knew what breast forms were, that's good to knowi mostly meant how sissies and trans women are very different things, since they're usually fetishist men rather than actual trans women
>>43357258I dunno about all of that, I just want to get rid of my peen and look like a woman because having a peen and looking like a boy makes me really sad for some reason
>>43360383what about the many trans women who aren't creepy fetishists ever thought about that?
>>43357103>the idea of a "gay widow" is absurd.Its a real thing tho. Gay men who know they are gay and marry women so they could be viewed as straight or just to get a woman to have their kids. I think it should be crime punished by death just like trooning on your spouse should be.Its not the same as when lesbias do it becase of comphet and women having to suffer so much if they have kids>>43357356In what context would those things be ok to say? It does not exist
>>43368342it's because you're an autogynephile
>>43360074Womanhood is just having a female body and existing. Trans women who get srs get to experience parts of it, trans women with a penis never experience it cause they choose to keep their male body
>>43361006Nothing more feminine than two females liking each others female genitals..its double the femaleness
>>43356786if you're a cis lesbian then the majority of trannies you meet are going to be the ugly weird typeI'm not going to call them perverts but they 100% have a male sexualitythey're going to be really creepy and I hate dealing with them as much as you dobut for every one of them there's going to be a passable normal person who transitioned as a minor and spends all day on the computer and will end up getting with a loser guy who treats her like shityou can hate the first type but just know the second type exists and it's not ok to get rid of them
>>43356786>>43356799>>43356808TERFs rape kids.
>>43356786Holy shit, how pathetic, 'boo hoo my partner transitioned and therefore I'm a trans widow', but if a lesbian marries a man and separates and gets together with a woman, the man is a 'lesbian widow'? Literally retarded, all of it.Conservatives don't think you're better just for being a lesbian, OP, if they had the power, they'd make you suffer, and disappear suffering. Get a clue!
>>43359651not what anybody said you are a liar
>>43359988holy fucking shit you're so clueless about men pissing lmao>specially those who don't have super large penisesfunniest shit I ever read
>>43360024>on this board, people generally recognize that autogynephilia is realsome do some don't, the people that do argue about what it is, so what, some people think the earth is flat>there's no point in taking this tackwhat tack? asking what somebody is basing their ideas on? what do you even mean here
>>43368504>what contextsee >>43357821
