Last time I said my shoulders are broad to my height (5'6), people said not broad at all, ansur said average. Now it's considered a brick and "at least I'm short" cope and people complain about it? Is this shoulderflation?
>>43371236BMI? it depends on thatat you're height it's not as bad but still not good
>>43371236lots of insane and/or retarded people that don't live in reality on this board
The problem is ,there isn't really a good data set for bodily dimensions in young non-obese people of the general population so everyone tries to adjust by saying you have to be like a SD away from the median of ANSUR for things like shoulders
>>4337123617" is not that bad tbhon. Like, it's not ideal but it can be a lot worse.
>>43371294>there isn't really a good data set for bodily dimensions in young non-obese people of the general populationthis is literally what ansur is. if anything the median american woman is likely to be wider than the women in ansur, since the ansur subjects weight quite a bit less than the median american woman.
>>43371294Last time Ansur told me 17" is below average female shoulders, kek. Do they pick out like the most obese people or was it just held in Murica
highk im like you but im 5'5 at 16 shouldersidk ive been told my shoulders are broad as hell(from my middle aged family members)and from people i actually know and am around ive been told they are pretty smallunfortunately I spent a brief time in my adolescence gymcoping so ive been punished with having some actual upper body muscle rather than being able to be a starved twink like half the people hereidk if you dont have much muscle and are clocky in other ways then yeah 17 at 5'6 is a bit bad but not life ending if you have muscle from gymcoping or something + youre not really clocky in other ways(for me my hips are literally my only "real" clocky trait tbhon) then its like fine desu in general if youre kinda short + at least have a good chance of facepassing and arent horribly fucked up in some other ways youll prolly be fine desufor trans women its the combo of being tall(in comparison to normal women), having lots of upper body muscle(in comparison to normal women), being facehons, and being bricky that cooks themyou gotta pick your poison with trans stuff thankfully i got a soft babyface(regularly get told i look 14 at almost 19) so i dont need any surgeriestldr youll probably be fine dont worry about itpeople only this board will genuinely tell you having a underbust in the low 30s is neverpasser
>>4337135617 is above average by a decent bitthe average non obese women is walking around with shoulders from 13-15 inches(barely any muscle on those bones so keep that in mind)
>>43371356American military personnel, filter for bmi
average womans measurements(assuming you dont live in America where everyone is nearly obese)are like:14-15 shoulders~120-140 pdship circumference in the high 30sunderbust 28-32bust 34-???about 5'2-5'3
>>43371382Last time I did
>>43371382>>43371433no? 15-16" sureand 5'2"-5'3" average height lol, average height in most western countries is ~5'5"
>>43371433>>43371382they say, with literally zero evidence. that's smaller than the average BIACROMIAL of american women.>>43371356the mean female subject of the first ansur had a bmi of 23.
>>43371433It’s over>16.5 inch shoulders>120 pounds>hip 36>underbust 29>bust 36>5’7”
>>43371511Honestly those are good measurements for a tranny. What's your waist like?
>>43371511Stfu these are good
>>43371496You can't fix brainworms with facts and figures.The problem is almost never shoulders in isolation but shoulder:hip ratio.
>>43371659What shr is ngmi anymore
>>43371734I have no clue.Either you pass or you don't.It's never down to a single measurement.Most trannies don't pass.
>>43371543I think it’s like 30 or something last time I measured it
>>43371817Waist being bigger than underbust? WaowHonestly working out and some mild, slow weight gain could help.
>>43371270/thread
>>43371511those measurements are actually quite goodbetter than mine>16 inch shoulders>130 pounds> hip 35> underbust 32> bust 33>waist 26>5'5my excuse is im getting on hormones soon + i gymcoped in the past
>>43372643Those are great measurements before hormones wtf
>>4337135617 is way above average for biacromial in fact above average even for men. And is average for bideltoid. Doesnt really matter though. Doesnt make you pass by itself.
>>43372656??? howmy hips are small(its only 35 cause of my butt :<)underbust is ok i guessidk my ex(enby) always went on about how im gonna pass super easy(maybe in comparison to this closeted tgirl they are friends with but in general no) which i dont agree with
>>43372887HRT will add a lot to hips and workouts will shred visceral fat and reduce underbust/waist. You have great shoulder measurements and are short, too.
>>43371236I'm 5'4 and have 17.5 inch shoulders at under 19 bmi
