>>43371884
Do you count having long hair under dressing very femininely if otherwise one dresses like a normal man

no

>>43371884
I think a reason why most trans guy have a hard time transitioning is because a lot of them are still treated like women by basically everyone so it’s really hard for them to even change or want to take hormones and a lot ftms just have this weird idea of holding onto their feminine past or lesbian past idk the most malebrained ftms are basically incels or youngshits lol very hard to be ftm in this day and age desu

>>43371884
you need to get some stealth friends. you're only really going to be able to find them online i think. lmk if you're in the upstate south carolina otherwise good luck

>>43372304
I dont think the being viewed as a woman thing is particularly relevant as while it is basically impossible to be third gender as a female(being androgynous as a female is not at all transgressive in 2026, theyfabs are inherently doomed from the start)
many mtfs who present as fem gay boys at the start get bullied like crazy and those who do end up socially transitioning at least also get bullied like crazy(OMG A FAG LETS GO BEAT HIM UP)
to be honest it seems in general that the ones i know irl dont have a whole lot of motivation to transition or try to pass much in comparison to mtfs which i find strange
I do agree with the latter point that a lot of ftms are in an abusive rls with their female childhood and desu
hot take but peak female childhood is probably more enjoyable on average than the peak male childhood as cis women, despite enduring the violence of patriarchy and such, are not stripped of their humanity in the same way cis men are(basically forced into being emotionally sterile vessels for masculinity, something which occurs no matter how good your childhood is unless you have woke ass parents)
the concept of being a women is also coveted and kind of safeguarded due to patriarchy making it hard to enter and hard to leave vs being a man which is not given the same treatment(not counting the systemic issues that men do not have to deal with)
if you are mtf/ a massive fag in general you basically get all the downsides and none of the benefits as you are an automatic failure male socialization wise and get 0 benefits of female socialization since youre a male and so its not shocker that mtfs do not have this weird "but but my masculine past" obsession that ftms do
female socialization is a nightmare but male socialization isnt much better if you are a fag or any kind

weirdly enough i feel like ftms struggle with "socialpassing" the most
ftms/transmascs in my experience irl + online seem to be unusuallly fembrained in comparison to mtfs which still act pretty malebrained tbhon but to a lesser degree bc of increased effort

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I used to be FTM for a little while lmfao but unfortunately I can't really speak much on why this phenomenon is a thing, I tried to transition because I'm extremely BPD and in retrospect I was absolutely mirroring my partner at the time, I'm a lesbian but because they came out as trans while we were already dating for a long while I felt like I had to stay in the relationship (biggest cope of my life) and so I guess as a way to cope I started mirroring him in many aspects. It was fun larping as a gay guy for a little while but it got old almost immediately because I am not a man and I am not into men, so eventually I snapped out of the weird trauma bond that we had and broke it off, still had some weird feelings about being a man and all so I felt uncomfortable doing anything that would go against my own "masculinity", but that eventually went away and I'm now back to square 1 of being kinda non binary but really not caring about gender all that much. But to get back on topic I have noticed this pattern as well, most trans men I've personally met are either really weird with this obsession about still being a female at heart or something or they are completely detached from all that and prefer to never even talk about it, even my ex he was always moping about not being masculine enough and not passing but at the same time he would frequently say he was jealous of my hips and that he wishes his were as wide as mine. It's odd and I'm not gonna speculate why it happens but it is an interesting topic.

>>43371884
are you calling trans men trans females and trans women trans males? this is retarded if so

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I have never personally met an MtF that behaved like a woman. They usually behave, primarily, as mentally ill and/or cruel people. However, this has in now way shaped how I view trans women as a whole, and I still view the deranged MtFs as women. And I am not referring to hons.

I think it's funny that some MtFs on this forum always refer to people obviously not actively living as trannies as their sources of trans men. You do not see the equivalent in men as frequently because it is more harshly punished. But even then, there is such a large quantity of femboys that behave or pose as crypto trannies, but some MtFs easily dismiss them or merely view them as baby trans losers who should not be judged for their actions, yet the same grace/dismissal is not given to theyfabs and "transmascs" the like. I understand that women are princesses, children, retarded, and beautiful, and that may be frustrating, and they should be held accountable.

You can and will encounter pretty normal FtMs, or you may not recognize them. But that won't do anything for you. You will always be considering the non trans, people who are commondeering the language in a time where words mean less as our actions become more and more meaningless- everyone's a wet blanket, no one has Personal beliefs yet everyone feels the need to have some sort of (correct) opinion on everything.

You can encounter a trutrans FtM and it won't matter, because you are frustrated with how women are raised- to be taught nothing, to be punished for nothing, to be allowed to do anything because what they do means absolutely nothing.

I do not consider myself a woman nor do I cling to being a XX wombyn and what not. I have never felt """"closeness"""" to women. I look, pretty normal. And I never want to speak to an MtF online ever again because you are so wrapped up in whatever agenda is floating around.

I am between OP example 2/3 but that's largely because i am a girlmoder on hrt waiting to move out in order to get a proper diagnos to get legal changes/surgeries etc

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>>43371884
Transgender tried to kill the president again.
It like the 3rd transgender

>>43375122
dudes not even trans lmfao

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