why do so many trannies have a hard time integrating into the female social role after transitioning? Is it shame? A male upbringing? Being a social outcast? and most importantly, what can be done about it? >t. male brained tranny struggling to integrate with cis women
isn't the female social role birthing and raising children?how would a man perform that?
>>43376060last night I did some shrooms and laid in bed contemplating my transition, I realised that since transitioning, cis women (and men) have been way nicer to me and that I'm pretty retarded for thinking that everyone secretly thinks I'm a gross pervert wearing female blackfaceI felt my shame and fear fade away, so, I listened to some Taylor Swift and didn't feel the horrible anxious feeling of doing something deeply wrong, instead it felt really nice and I had a great time listening to girly music without feeling like an interloper. I saw a vision of what would be if I just lived without any shame, how readily I'd embrace womanhood, how happy and free I'd be...Now that I'm sober again the feeling of shame is back. My dad used to hit me for doing anything girly as a kid. It's so terrible to think that his influence still haunts me a decade later, I just wish I could accept myself as a woman already >t. 10+ years hrt>>43376065no that's the motherly social role which is a subset of the female social roleyour mind is simple, die retard
>>43376060trannies refuse to talk to cis women for some reason
>>43376138Cis women make me super depressed since I'll never be one of them so I avoid them at all costs.
>>43376164fair, i try to only talk to broader/taller women
>>43376138Crippling gynophobia and it seems like most women hate us desu. All you really need to know about what cis women think of trans women is to ask a cis woman if she's trans. I've been forced into socializing with females more after transitioning and really hate it, being around men makes me feel 10x as safe.
>>43376138All i have been around has been cis women my entire life. I do feel like i integrate pretty well. Read more romance and write some poetry and take care of someone. Itll get you there
>>43376222what romance do you read?
>>43376060You need to be exclusively androphilic. Otherwise your attraction will make you put them on a pedestal.Trvfags have no problem socialising with women, as women do.
>>43376229Song of Achillies right now. Wurthering Heights before that. Twilight before that. Im relatively new to the genre so im trying to hit the popular ones first.
>>43376060All cis women are TERFs.
>>43376255>reads 3 romance novels to gain expertise at being a woman
>>43376255This is dumb.
>>43376286maybe she learned a lot from twilight
>>43376060Female social role is being a wife and a mother. Its not possible for trans women to be such. Its not their fault
>>43376286>Was raised with 4 sisters and no dad>Only ever had female friendsYou understand im not op right? Her situation doesnt apply to me. Poetry makes you open up emotionally, reading is shown to increase empathy, and doing something feminine creates shared experiences with women.>Your retarded replyI can always tell when an anamaxxer is speaking becouse they literally cant use their brain
>>43376301The book list or the concept of reading?
>>43376386I mean ive read like 20 romance novels and wouldnt say I know enough about them to know how the affect you. They just make you doki doki waku waku a little because thats what theyre supposed to do. Idk like you might as well be eecpmmending magical girl animes atp
>>43376389i imagine the former
>>43376411should i watch strawberry panic?
>>43376424Idk i only watch jyosei hetslop
>>43376097Girl, you gotta hold onto that realization. There's no shame in accepting yourself. You did it. You made it.>t. 7 years hrt>>43376065Women, not men. Please get your brain checked.>>43376060The vast majority of trans women weren't socialized female. Seems pretty simple to me.
>>43376065Thats the only female social role, everything else can be done by men also. People here are sexist as they push some weird gender stereotypes
>>43376060no, actually its the severe autism and misanthropyalso not passing
All the cis women I meet immediately discriminate against me so I completely avoid themI have never had a woman treat me decently in my entire life holy hell they are terrifying soulless monsters
>>43376471all the cis women around me poorly try to act like they arent grossed put by me
>>43376374It is absolutely possible, even if our experiences are atypical.
>>43376465Holy projectionFor future reference, describing norms and trends is not the same thing as prescribing norms.
>>43376411Favorite?
>>43376060I don't actually like the female social role at all>why did you transition then retardAGP
>>43376955the one i wrote
>>43377000Pride is your sin
>>43377136pride is the only sin that can live with itself
>>43377155Shit you got me. What's your book
>>43377168a literal nobody webnovel that i'd rather keep private lol
>>43376060humans recede into patterns that give least resistance and stresspeople don't treat trans women as women, it's easier to fall back into patterns that match their expectations to minimize social frictionalso internal expectations and dysphoria, if you don't meet your own expectations for a woman you won't take yourself seriously and won't be able to genuinely perform the role(tbf all this is shame derived)(also try and break the habit of using trannies to refer to mtf's only it's very conservicoded, sry 4 autistic pedantry)
>>43376065>>43376465Not speaking to anyone or leaving the house for weeks on end is an exclusively male social role. It will cause dysphoria if female socialization saturation is not experienced
>>43376060That is how everyone feels about each other. It's why humans have individual identity, swagger, style and imagination. Self-conscious, pertinent in society, citizens that is a society. Everyone wants to have a good environment Everyone has those same worries
waste no more time arguing what an integrated tranny should be. Be one.
>>43376459>Girl, you gotta hold onto that realization. There's no shame in accepting yourself. You did it. You made it.It's hard, I genuinely just feel so anxious whenever I try anything new, even thinking freely feels difficult, it feels like people can read my disgusting thoughts "this creepy weird autistic AMAB pervert thinks that doing X will finally make him feel like a real woman lmao", let alone actually acting in new way. But I'll keep trying...
>>43376060it takes practice and not being so hard on yourself. you had to endure a decade of wrong puberty body horror and it was so bad that you come here regularly to talk about it. it's a battle internally and even externally, because gender essentialist gatekeepers exist from both sides of the cis gender binary and even within ourselves. we had to endure being treated as immutably male for our upbringings and it's hard to rub ourselves clean of that feeling, like christian guilt is to the deconvert. forgive yourself for what happened, accept that the picture of femininity in your head has become something you use to crucify yourself with instead of something to help you. perfect is the enemy of good, after all.
>>43378107Thank you nona, framing this as being equivalent to Christian guilt for apostates helps
>>43376060Many cis women have the same issue i mean there is an entire tomboy culture that is cis not ftm lite
my superego is out of control
>>43376060maybe because men and women are different? maybe because a man cannot become a woman? maybe because being trans is a mental illness?
>>43376255> twilightYeah… no. If you want something similar but better read Halfway to the grave, otherwise very recent there are the ACOTAR books, the throne of glass series (which actually is good up til the last few books), the Book of Azrael series, and from blood and ash if you feel trash-y. All of these tend to have sassy hot heated women though, so if you want something more “””normal””” the Blood Grace series is quite good (for just the first two books imo). Kingdom of the wicked is peak imo, it’s very good and the scenes are very spicyThese are quite famous so you may even have something to talk about, though most of these books have dumb af FMC so you may just sound like a bitch irlt. I read too much romantasy
