What do you think of her (his) face reveal after FFS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeWSCnblz0
he got scammed kek
i want my brow cracked off real bad op
>>43376512idk why everyone dunks on FT, i think they do really good work
she looks good unironically seeing somebodys face pretrans is such an infohazard cause i cant objectively analyze it.
>>43376529yh it's very natural. probably the best in europe just their noses are god awful that's the only thing
they gave him downs.
>>43376544do you think they have him a single palmar crease on both hands too?
>>43376512I'm thinking fas/down syndromeHow did that happen
>>43376557where did his philtrum go?
When will he detransition?
>>433765652 years from now
>>43376512he looks like a gay baby
>>43376512This nigga puts all this effort in to look as feminine as possible, yet has made absolutely no effort to voice train? wtf?
>>43376512holy fuck i hate this dude sooooo fucking much (only bc im jealous)
he still doesnt pass desu
>>43376564i don't give a SHIT about Philtrum!
>>43376606that's kinda the same level of cope you see from lolcow/kf posters who assert that they can always tell. physically he does pass as long as he doesn't talk
>>43376512She has a piggy nose now
>>43376512She looks the same to me
>>43376512SHE’S SO HOT
>>43376512oink oink
>>43376646moo
>>43376612
>>43376512Just worse. Esp the nose.
>>43376557>fas/down syndrome= neotenous = fem
>>43376676kinda, right? I preferred it before too
>>43376741He just looks kinda bogged now
>>43376512She really needs VFS...
>>43376780vfs doesn't fix your voice if you don't voice train
>>43376758The character lost its appeal and mystery. Before it was>wow this crossie looks kinda pretty it's cool a guy can pull this off without surgeryand now it's just another mid post-ffs tranny that's too lazy to voicetrain.Like, the voice is jarring now whereas before it fit better into the nonchalant performance.
>>43376512is honestly so funny how he is so deattached from his whole selfhe even named the youtube video "face surgery" to avoid saying "feminization"highkey what a subhuman
>>43376512ahahahahaha fuck i actually feel kinda bad for him/them/whatevernever realised how big finn's nose was but damn, that's really the best they could do?
>>43376788vfs is basically a scam that does nothing other than get rid of like an octave of your low rangeyou basically have to still speak in tranny voice, but you also can't switch back to man voice if you need tono thanks lmao
>>43376902why would you need to?
>>43376941detrooning, if you needed to pass as cis male for safety reasons, etc.
>>43376941Avoid getting bullied in online vc
>>43376564philtrectomy
>>43376557still swollen but also plenty of women look like dysgenic downies without makeup
>>43376512bro became a mickey mouse looking mfker
>>43377049Kek cant unsee
He still looks better than 90% of this board but keep coping
>>43377062Doesnt matter he is not trans so we arent in competition
>>43376512>get botched FFS>didn't even tried to fix xer teethKWAB
>>43376512He/she got groomed.
>>43376512If he had real friends they would’ve advise against it
>>43376512Who did she go to?
>>43377049wtf lmao i can kinda see it
>>43377341so you can avoid the doctor?
>>43376512the 4chan memes of her side profile got to her lol, looks good, not booged like most retards get because they change EVERYTHING about their face
>>43376512OMGSISA
>>43376512looks like a british woman
>>43376512??? just fixed the side-profile?
if i was spending that type of money i would want serious changes
it genuinely looks worse now
>>43376512chud lines and pig nose :)
>>43376529I went to FT Brazil. Took a long while for the swelling to start going away. But now it's been 7 months and I'm in love with the results. The forehead work was top notch. Maaaaybe I'd ask them to be a bit more aggressive with the jaw.
>>43376512serious surgery faceshoulda gone to someone else and only got a nose job tbqhforehead has such a high chance looking uncanny and idk why you would get it if you don’t care about passing that much
>>43376512This actually makes me doom even more. I'm supposed to save up tens of thousands of euros just to look pretty much the same as before???
>>43376512after watching this i get the feeling that finnster's upper lip seems to be paralyzed ?? the whole face looks kinda half frozen when she speaks
>>43376512Looks disgusting but he was always ugly and retarded so what difference does it really make
>>43376512she looks like a human luma from Mario galaxy
i can't judge if it looks good or bad until someone cums on it
I'm sad....who am I going to jerk off too now that F1nn has down syndrome?
>>43376512now we just have to wait for the bottom surgery announcement
>>43376512hopefully this will be a wakeup call to all the lazy sneedhons who think FFS alone will save them
>>43376512>the nosescammed
>>43377094His that look fine. I can tell your american lol
>>43381725teeth*
>>43376512>looks like above average British woman now whereas before she looked like an obvious twinkhonYou guys are just coping and malding GAMPs. Also people who want FFS but can't get it and lash out.
>>43380586That is literally how british spoken english is defined
he looks 15 now lmao
>>43376902Idk the one friend i know that has it she voice passes now and is stealth
>>43376512Ruined
>>43376512I know afabs that look like that in the UK lolIf he doesnt fix his voice though hes never gonna pass
How do people even watch his videos? His mannerisms are so annoying like the constant looking around and twitching and stuff combines with the video being cut every couple seconds. Its unbearable.
>>43381787>he looks 15 now lmaoyou make it sound like that's an undesirable outcome for the agamp femboy streamer
>>43382647Niggas very fake imo he should leave the internet and go to college or live off savings or do some Minecraft without the porn or tranny shit just be normal if you are reading this lil nigga maybe for your own good be normal still be a tranny whatever you want but be normal
>>43376512still serves male. maybe with makeup theyd be ok but the aura, mannerisms and voice are so masculine. transition takes actual work and sitting on your ass hoping mones and surge will do everything for you is idiotic.
>>43376512omfg i deadass actually hate him so much why’s he mog me.
Is he the best passing tranny of all time?
>>43376512Why is nobody talking about how insanely aggro they were on the cheek aug? They really went full cherub and made her look like she's 4 years old so she can get more money from her pedocon fanbase.
>>43383425mannerisms and aura should come naturally if your trans. There is no reason you should have to train these
>>43384778I don't think there's much cheek aug, like, she already had pretty full cheeks so it's more that they made her nose too small
>>43384116No.
>>43376512good results doesn't look overdone, or uncanny Just refined his clockiest features.
>>43384778based cherubmaxxer
>>43384778The only thing that was done is brow and nose, dumbass.
>>43384996russians don't count, their parents start them off early so they don't get drafted.
>>43386246She started at like 30 years old
>>43376512Looks ugly, but he always was so nothing changed
>>43384116You have seen like 3 trannies or live under a rock if you think this. Zoomer chasers should be forced to watch the cBrazilian shemale and Asian ladyboy classics and maybe they will get some taste.
>>43376613no he doesnt lol
>>43384996shes a 31 yr old millenial and finn is a zoomer
>greasy rat modepoor girl is severely malnourished or sleep deprived and a bit boyish sure>during most of the stream where she had the lashes, neutralish makeup and better hair framingwhat an adorable 20yo girl look at those cheeks they're so pinchablethe shnozz and browbone reduction were a good choice, but putting on a few pounds really helped her face even before the bone smashing, let alone afterearlier profile pics made her nose look a bit too slopey, but she looks genuinely good in this vidhopefully that, and the uncucked breathing (deviated septum got fixed) will be enough of a nudge to help her mentol helf situation and she gets to live a normal happy life
>>43376612philtrum? dang near killed'm!
>>43380043check the video, she looks better in motion than in a (potentially specifically chosen) frozen frame
>>43384778official story is she chubbed up a bit before surgery since she was considering fat transplants. turns out that going from malnourished anamaxxer to probably still malnourished but less anorexic makes your cheeks fem, assuming ok fat genetics
>video of her consultation pre FFS side by side with post>basically just a downgrade
>>43387114She literally has a side by side comparison in the last 20 seconds and it's just worse in all ways.
>>43376612Are you sure
>>43387114I watched the video ans she looks like a piggy of with fetal alcohol syndromeOink oink
>all this work>all this effort and money spent>still dont pass at all
>>43386626>>43387075hopefuel for oldfags??
>>43386626inb4>I was on puberty blockers for 2 decades but it doesnt countthere is always some bullshit
>>43386626she started socially transitioning at like 19 or 20 and yeah she probably was on diy earlier than that because it's otc in russia and she's had like a bunch of surgeries too, but she was a passoid even without any surgeries
>>43376512kek at the fucking mannerisms and voice, total bloke tier. face now looks bogged too and how much did she pay for that? like 40k euros. what a scam and a massive waste of time and energy, why even bother transitioning, oh right she got groomed by some homosexual sugar daddy on twitch and discord.
Until he's sitting on a BBC, I don't give a fuck about this guy
>>43387774>19 or 20No she did not :D she a lateshit. She just had a good base
>>43376587because then they'd actually be mistaken for a woman, which goes against their whole "woah, I'm actually a dude that just looks like a woman!! check out my onlyfans!!!" meme.they'd lose access to their gooner audience's neetbux
>>43376522>>43380970it takes six months for the swelling to fade.But pretransition f1nn was the HOTTEST cross dressing bitch ever.
>>43388117it's called being a trap/otokonoko
Is he male or female now?
>>43388187and I'd wish they'd stay away from the trans label
>>43388117I know ugly honbeasts here cannot understand what it is like to succeed at something but eventually when you are pretty enough you come to the conclusion that squeezing your throat 24/7 is gay as fuck. Ultimate passing is mogging so hard that even if they know you are trans they can't misgender you without invoking normie confusion.
>voice training is hella gay brooh my days what is OFgooner spasmoid on
>>43388265It is. Trying to 100% stealth when there is AI databases tracking you is kinda stupid. The meta move is to be so hot that people just don't question you.
>>43388281>ai exists so we shouldn't even trywe gotta start ludditemaxxing
>>43388296It's called adapting to your current circumstances. Same reason most trannies moved on from being hookers.
>>43388249Its not a thing. If you have booming male voice, people are just gendering you out of pity
>>43388381In what scenario is your voice gonna give you away that actually matters.In public, I dont speak to strangers. If you get a job, unless you were lucky enough to have parents who helped you bury your information you are fucked anyway. If you can perfectly voice pass, and its not a constant annoyance to you then good for you but personally I find the tranny monotone voice that sounds the same a lot worse than a cute twink voice. Now ive met some actual voice passers, but most trannies have that annoying fagcent they pick up from youtube cis women.
>>43388281Well also the fact that peoples fem voices are 100% clockable. Like people point to zee or taf but they just sound like gay guys with their balls being squeezed. It is sad how bad voice modification is.
vfs workspre-vfshttps://voca.ro/11j2N2uhxULMpost-vfs, still learninghttps://voca.ro/1e1gZiHPvEK3post-vfs nowhttps://voca.ro/121q2Gwc3VQzI think the key honestly is that VFS gave me the courage to speak in girlvoice 100% all the time, which was an extremely necessary step in learning an okay girlvoicekind of like how Finn needed those times where he was obligated by stream donations to spend 100% of his time dressed as a girl in order to look okay
>>43388381yeah i agree, i'm an ffs voicehon and a lot of the time, after people have heard my voice, they gender me male. it's a big reason for why i don't feel comfortable girlmoding, so i pretty much dress as a guy all the time and mutemode. at least this way people usually think i'm some weird autistic woman and not a man>>43388881who did you go to for vfs? i was going to try yeson but they asked for recordings of my best trained voice and i tried recording them and it made me depressed and i kinda just gave up>>43388399>In what scenario is your voice gonna give you away that actually mattersliterally any casual interaction where you speak, people will just treat you at best as a troon but usually not even that, you'll just get treated as a man as soon as you open your mouth
>>43388959i went to yeson. When they asked for recordings of my best trained voice, what I gave was honestly trash, but I doubt they were expecting anything good. It didn't affect anything about the process.If I had to choose again, though, I probably would have gone with Dr. Thomas, though, fwiw.
>>43388989ah, sadly going to the us for vfs is no longer an option while trump is in office so i think yeson or some euro surgeon may be the best option right now. did you do much voice training before vfs and did you voice train much after? but damn, this is actually hopefuel, maybe i'll go and email yeson now, i'm in asia for at least the next 6 months anyway so going to korea isn't a big deal
Through all the weird stuff, you just know Finny is just a good boy after all. Love you man, hope you find happiness.
>>43389056I did no voice training at all before hand. I did it all after. But as I said, training genuinely is still needed. I paid for lessons initially and then once I had a hang of it, I refined my voice by using it IRL 100% of the time.
>>43388881No way this is real lmao
>>43376512her nose got totally botched, which is funny bc the biggest things she wanted done was brow and nose. why the fuck did she go with FT who notoriously botch noses?
>>43388989>If I had to choose again, though, I probably would have gone with Dr. Thomas, though, fwiw.Why, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks for your responses so far!
>>43376512i wish i would stop hearing about this HRT femboy
>>43389194gimme a sec, I'm on a meeting at work so I can't provide a new voice clip right away>>43389704It's still possible for me to sound male. If I'm eating something spicy and it makes me cough, I have to be very careful to not cough with my chest or else it will be a very deep, male-sounding cough. That doesn't happen with Femlar, which is what Dr. Thomas does.
>>43389194>>43389749https://voca.ro/1kg3q2dPaGR7
>>43387784dude, we all know you wish you were her. stfu
>>43388153>But pretransition f1nn was the HOTTEST cross dressing bitch ever.*from certain angles
>>43389800damn, that's a gigapassoid voice, giwtwm, i feel like having a voice like that would be kinda uncanny for me since my face doesn't really look the part even with ffs. i bet you're a face gigapassoid too
>>43389800Okay now I can buy that better, the difference between second and third sample really got me though and I just couldn't believe it
>>43388881Tell us lots more please. What procedure did you get done, how did you practice?
>>43376512BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>43376512Pennywise looking ass
no point voice training, AI existsno point transitioning, you can have female avatars in video games
>>43389973this is what i look like irl, I pass well enough visually I guess>>43389993no matter what, when you're training it's going to sound forced and bizarre and kind of terrible, but you just have to keep at it and you will master the movements
>>43388881There’s a clinic in the US that offers either FemLar or VFSRAC (Yeson). I’m leaning toward FemLar, but idk :IVFSRAC removes vocal fold tissue and stitches the ends together to increase tension and decrease vibratory length to raise pitchFemLar removes thyroid gland cartilage, making the larynx and adam’s apple smaller. Also removes a portion of the vocal folds, shortens the pharynx, and lifts the larynx
>>43390003I got VSFRAC with Yeson. After I recovered, I got 1 on 1 virtual voice training lessons with a professional. I think the company was Connected Speech Pathology? And then once I had learned the basics from the lessons, I just started talking in girlvoice all the time.Keep in mind that I thought my voice sounded absolutely terrible when I started using girlvoice 100% of the time. I was extremely embarrassed and forcing myself to use it 100% of the time basically pushed me to my limits mentally. I did still get gendered female over the phone, though.At some point you just have leave your comfort zone even if it's scary.
>>43390530phoneposting ignore second one lmao
>>43388881Imagine spending thousands of dollars just to sound like a faggot lmao
>>43385588>doesn't look uncannyROFLMAO
>>43390714you're coping, she sounds great, i can only hope that i sound as good as her one day>>43390491oh it's you, you're actually kinda hopefuel, though your ffs went really well and you're really pretty, whereas at best, i look like a really ugly woman _at best_, and it's just kinda demotivating, but maybe it's a presentation issue on my part but it's another thing that kinda makes me get lazy with trying to voice train
>>43390714quiet midwit repper
>>43390768I would once again emphasize that it's not about hard work, it's about getting out of your comfort zone
>>43388153True, sure her nose was a little big but it fit her face. Like a super simple nose reduction by like 15% would have been perfect. >>43389962She was hot from every angle but full profile. See above, a simple nose clip keeping the original shape with a small size reduction would have been perfect. I hope F1nn is happy with it at least, don't want her to get depressed. I'm low key devastated /lgbt/. I want Original Flavor F1nn5ter back. I hate it here. :(
>>43388082Gilticus is half Slav half Tatar. It's all thanks to Tatar genes which is in itself Turkic + Asiatic combination
who cares about that what about his "gender fluid" cope??
>>43391090Gilticus is Bashkir master race, half tatarBest genetics for trooning
no robust facial structure, short midface, small forehead. it just looks like slop and i much more prefer structured faces with prominent cheekbones, high forehead, with low bodyfat, good symmetry etc
how the fuck does he have skin that smoothsame with Ella whatever Jean Hollywoodhow do they have no pores or bumps fuck's sake what the fuck and don't tell me it's makeup I've seen Ella take litres of piss on the face
>>43389800amazing how natural it sounds wtfscience has gone too far for good for oncethanks for letting me feel young againfelt like I was talking to a girl like in my teens again
>>43392010It’s a screenshot from a YouTube video, it’s probably just compression
>>43392057like I said, I saw Ella get pissed on by four dudes in ultra high-res and there were no cuts or edit aways and then the camera shoved itself into xer face and it was smooth and clean and no blemishes or pores fucking glassy skin god damn it motherfucker
>>43376512she cute
>>43376637It's slightly upturned, but it's still looks swollen, adding to the effect>>43376758While right now FINN looks eek different, give it 6 more months, and in full makeup, and then make a judgment. >>43376799> just another mid post-ffs tranny that's too lazy to voicetrain.Some straight up catilynn jenner type shit is going on. This is what makes me think F1nn will freak out and game end in a couple of years because he is doing all this external surgery and then does nothing to the voice like he will loose him self if he does.>>43388281The meta move is to be so hot that people just don't question you.Honestly, most women are not hot... Passable != Hot but average. You were on the right path, but clearly growing up with IG, Tok, Etc. has left your brain broken. >>43376512Does icky really have a tattoo on her face? What is with eurotrash degeneracy
>>43376512WHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>43380970one of the ten million other trannies
>>43376941In case you need to tell a nigga u the wrong tranny to fuck with
>>43376512Her lip filler has looked like shit for a while, which makes her look way more bogged
