is it transphobic to not want to hang out with trannies who refuse to voice train?im being canceled by my so-called friend group for not wanting to be seen in public with someone who has a booming bass voice and no intention of ever changing it
yes, it is at least somewhat transphobic. why do u care? i assume bc them being clocky would lead to u getting clocked? if ur already in a tranny group that point is moot
>>43383436not transphobic but a bit mean i think. does she pass visually? if she doesnt then she probably thinks voice training wouldnt do any good for her
>>43383436>You need to accept me for who I am, but I'm not gonna accept that person for who they are. I'm embarrassed to be seen with them, gross!Passoids are even more transphobic then cis people I swear
>>43383586who they am being lazy and self destructive for no reason.
>>43383462she is close to passing, but not there yetshe has been confronted in womens bathrooms several times>>43383460i dont want to be used as a shield when she gets confronted in bathroomsdont turn to me and expect me to say shit, i dont want to be guilty by associationshe has had years to voice trainive literally offered to pay for her to go to a vocal coach>>43383586i dont ask people to "accept me" i simply passand i expect others to hold themselves to a certain leveldo you hang out with people who look like they havent showered and shaved in weeks? by your logic, you cant be angry at them for this
>>43383624https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respectability_politicsStop being such an Auntie Tom
>>43383436not it's based, if she feels bad about being lazy then you're doing her a favor>>43383654being respectable is a good thing hon
>>43383436you're right but you're being autistic. this is the type of situation where you're supposed begrudgingly go along with it and talk about her behind her back.
>>43383436I don't think so, but I am kind of a bitch lolListening to it just makes me extremely uncomfy and is unironically triggering
>>43384138>you're being autisticAKA the best kind of right
>>43383436no nobody takes those fetishists seriouslyif you're going to do something commit
>>43383634>and i expect others to hold themselves to a certain levelnta but sheesh! I mean, you don't HAVE to hang out with anyone but yes you do seem to have a lot of internalized transphobia, in addition to doing what you need to survive. It's not her DUTY to voice train. that's a decision everyone is entitled to make for themselves. If they determine they don't need to, then that is their business and no slight against them.>do you hang out with people who look like they havent showered and shaved in weeks? by your logic, you cant be angry at them for thisYes, I have friends who have depression, lol. It would not occur to me to be angry at them for going through some shit and feeling hopeless. If I have the time and energy I could offer help. I guess if you can't help yourself from being resentful that your "friend"/acquaintance is visibly trans, it is better to not hang out. Better that than to hurt her over finding out you think this stuff about her.
>>43383436>embarass yourself by honmoding without training>WHY ARE YOU EMBARASSED TO BE WITH ME????im so jealous of honfidence ngl
>>43383634You have done nothing wrong. I would cut off a stupid hon friend like that who would put me in a constant potential danger cause she is too lazy to voice train
>>43383436yes that's very transphobic but I get it sort of. I would only date pale/lighter skin dudes, is it racist? you could say that, but it's my personal preference.hang with who you wanna hang with. it's your life.>t. tranny who isn't voice trained
>>43387063>constant potential dangerholy fucking cope lmao if you're in a woke area no one gives a shit if a hon sounds like a man and if you're in a chud area they're just going to hate crime both of you regardless. it's fine to dislike hons but don't act like you're in a fucking warzone because you hang out with them
>>43383436The voice thing is always so strange.I dont encounter many trannies but when i hear some wannabe tranny talk with a very obvious guy voice im just thinking wtf is going on.
>>43387124Hons put passing girls in danger
>>43383436Ok tell me how to speedrun voicetraining and ill do it rn
>>43383436i understand it... but also if you know more than 2 voice trained girls you're in a minority. if you are in a group of more than 2 people who have all voice trained no cis person is going to think twice. girls who have been transitioning for a long time dont hang out with newbies, that's normal, but framing that as the reason will make people judge you. i dont hang out with anyone who yells, and people who are like "oh i dont want to put in effort" are ANNOYING
>>43387496cis girls wont hang out with hons for the same reason: standing next to a clocky woman makes everyone inspect every woman to see if she's a tranny. OP it's not your duty to hang out with basscels, but your friends are right in that you shouldnt say that. i have tried to create a support groip for voice and the big thing is people dont like... practice or do the work so>>43387497you literally have to do 3 months of practicing before you have the capability to voice train. most trannies literally give up when we realize you have to like, do work and practice. you will not be the prodigy. hum into a straw without blowing bubbles
>>43387519ntn but the only trannies i know who don't voice train are transfem enbies/enbycoperseven when i went to trans support groups all the actual binary trannies under 30 y/o voice trained (and a couple enbycopers)
>>43387561>you literally have to do 3 months of practicingNah i aint doing that. imma just kill myself one day anyway
>>43383436It looks like /tttt/ is half filled with supporters of this guy
I don't want to voice train it's hard :<
>>43383634>she is close to passing, but not there yetso why does the voice even matter if she doesn't visually pass
>>43383436many trannies nowadays do not realize that the goal of transition is to become a woman. they instead relish in being a tranny
