religion is a shield for homophobiafun fact: the Supreme court basically threw out the infamous "gay cake" case because at a public hearing for the colorado board that administrated the anti-discrimination law the baker was complained about under, a woman made a similar comment to saying its awful to use religion as a way to get away with being homophobicalso, fun fact:said baker no longer sells custom wedding cakes at all
>>43385424i never understood why christians act like they invented marriage
>>43385471just part of their npc dialogue tree I think
>>43385424Religion is a philosophy regarding metaphysics and the nature of the universe. If you remove religion, homophobes will simply use other tools, like stereotypes and bogus research, to target you instead. In fact, religion is often what prohibits them from hurting you even more, because it also sets a limit on how cruel they can be to others. You might ask, 'Why not just be nice? Is religion a reason behind their cruelty?' Most 'chuds' aren't even religious, yet they cry in rage against everyone daily.
>>43385684if homophobes had other tools that were as effective at promoting an anti-gay agenda, they would have no use for religion
>>43385471they believe marriage was invented with the world by god 6000 years ago(this is not a joke)
>>43385684>le homophobes always existed they are inherent to the universeexplain why the roman empire was very gay and had a lot of gay shit in their mythology
>>43385694Most homophobes on TV use bogus research, and most on the internet straight up use bullying rather than religion. Look at the 'chuds' on this board; they use Wojaks and nothing more. Religion is, however, a means to communicate with average people; in fact, people use religion for everything.Fame: Promote me on Twitch because I'm a Christian VTuber!Guilt-washing: 'I used to be a bad person, but now I call myself a Christian!'Commercial: Buy my wares; we are a religious store, and the others are in cahoots with the globalists.ETC
>>43385684>In fact, religion is often what prohibits them from hurting you even more, because it also sets a limit on how cruel they can be to others.Roll the clip samhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37RLn28mrLU
>>43385746how many gay marriages were legally performed in the Roman empire?
>>43385796what a very carefully worded question lfmaoyou realize in the ancient world marriage is basically a deed of ownership of a woman?
why would you want to support a business that holds abrahamic ideology? you wouldn't. just boycott them and they can cater to their own kind. the result of trying to use lawfare to shut these people down just makes lgbt look like the bad guy and it backfired. these days they run their own psyops to make us look bad tho so idk what the solution is other than to be ready to check them on their lies.
>>43385813if marriage is considered the most important valued commitment a man can make, and gays are shut out of this institution wholesale, this is not gay acceptanceromans were LITERATE and you are confusing rich gays writing about gay sex because they were rich enough to evade taboo to be tantamount to broader social acceptance for all social classes, which it was not>you realize in the ancient world marriage is basically a deed of ownership of a woman?no its a social prestige document attesting to your acquisition of a pregnancy vessel, and, for the woman, a legal contract that you can't just abandon her and have to take care of her kids and her financially you are ignoring that the woman gets something out of it"ownership" simply means being taken care of
>>43385836they had no idea the bakery was owned by christians and were blindsided by being publicly humiliated when they asked for a wedding cake>shut these people downnever happened, not a single business has EVER been shut down for refusing to cater to gays>but they shut down their own businessnot the same thing
>>43385839bruh the romans had legal codes saying you can't abuse slavesthey weren't savages (unlike u.s. southern antebellum slavers)
>>43385734If you remove religion, then what? Do you think they are going to accept you? Marxist homophobes exist, and they will just say that you are under the influence of Western capitalism or degeneracy. If religion were the only barrier, then all communist countries would have legalized homosexuality long ago. Religion is like a language: just because someone uses English to insult you, that doesn't make English a homophobic language.>>43385746Roman society still had homophobes. You had to be rich or under the protection of rich people to remain gay. In fact, the story of Emperor Elagabalus was observed to have been written by people who wished to slander him with accusations of effeminacy. India has ton of gay mythology, but they segregate them from ordinary people. This also apply to incest, Indoeuropean myth is filled with it, but both Greek and Roman shun on incest.
>>43385871any society that doesn't fully socially integrate gays into their society is savageyou know people are gay, and you are choosing to shut them out, and weaken your overall social bonds just to make an example out of them >bruh the romans had legal codes saying you can't abuse slavesim sure that was enforced :^)
>>43385853>never happened, not a single business has EVER been shut down for refusing to cater to gaysThis is a lie.That's what all leftists have. Lies. You make homophobia acceptable. Congratulations.
>>43385964>This is a lie.name a single specific business anywhere forced to close for not catering to gays>but they decided to close on their own/relocatenot the same thing
>>43385893>If you remove religion, then what?then shoot any public homophobes who remain>blah blah blah marxism blahnot writing an essay to debunk all of that
>>43385903there was no such thing as a "gay person" in the roman empire. there was "gay behavior". everyone was presumed to be bisexual.
>>43386025everyone know what a gay person was then and now and decided, then as now, to pretend gays don't exist so they could be petty and cruel most people ARE bisexual, but some are gay
>>43386047ok whatever, keep pretending your shitty kike religion with stoning laws is on the same level as the glory of SPQR
>>43386079still waiting for the name of a business closed down by the government for refusing to serve gays
>>43386101i'm not that poster
>>43386079Roman religion died because it was awful once it passed the tribal stage. That is why Romans spent so much time integrating other deities and inventing Neoplatonism to cope with it, but it all failed because the religion lacked structure and a coherent teaching. Julian tried to organize it, and nobody bothered to join his cult. It also tied itself to the state, so if the state persecuted you, the Roman religions would agree that you deserved to be persecuted. It was so bad that Caesar could just march on Rome and the high priests would fold to anyone with authority.
>>43386138>but it all failed because the religion lacked structure and a coherent teaching.pov it's the year 3026 and you're explaining why fundamentalist islam took over the west
>>43385982Point is asshole people are asshole.You think they only go after you? They also go after other people including other Christian denominations because they love punching down it make them feel stronger.
>>43386158>Point is asshole people are asshole.ok then make sure my assholes are the ones with guns
>>43386151Either this is a delusional idea that assumes Italian Christians replaced the original Romans, or another delusional idea that the majority of Muslims in the West are religious. Amish and Mormon are still growing, btw
>>43386202>that assumes Italian Christians replaced the original Romansyeah there's this thing called mortality and successive generations>or another delusional idea that the majority of Muslims in the West are religiousa muslim is religious by definition>Amish and Mormon are still growing, btwum, yay?
>>43386218>yeah there's this thing called mortality and successive generationsThe Italians still share the same DNA as the old Romans, so this is false.>a muslim is religious by definitionThis is false, "Muslim" is also a cultural group, just as secular Jews exist because "Jew" also applies to an ethnic group.>um, yay?Amish and Mormon growth means the way to combat a population decline exists within Christianity, but not within the Roman religion.
>>43386331>The Italians still share the same DNA as the old Romans, so this is false."ship of theseus" sophistry>This is false, "Muslim" is also a cultural group, just as secular Jews exist because "Jew" also applies to an ethnic group.ok if you want to count Dawkinsite "cultural christians" but for brown people then be my guest>Amish and Mormon growth means the way to combat a population decline exists within Christianitywhy do you give a shit how well the religion spreads? are you a religion or a human?
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>>43385982Welcome to life some people are just shit it has nothing to do with religion you just hate religious people your not different then them.
>>43385789Wrong people can use anything to justify there bad behavior religión is just one mean of many. This people would sacrifice jesus for their own goal. You leftist are to retarded to undestand that why you keep losing.
>you cannot be religious because uhh... I deserve to feel good about my sexuality and I can't risk having people not like it
>>43385424Polytheists should sue school districts in dont say gay states because 2 genders is Genesis bullshitPolytheists should sue Texas tech because banning all talk of LGBT stuff and Plato for mentioning more than 2 genders is religious discrimationUse religious rights rulings to your advantage If you are agnostic, deist, atheist or anything else it doesnt hurt to identify as a pagan for religious rights Im unironically trying to find local trannies so we can "start" a religion, until MAGA i wanted it so I could get holiday displays in the Capitol and so I could try to secure Marijuana and mushroom growing rights. Now I want it so I can start telling christian nationalists to fuck off and waste the supreme courts time>>43385471Christians pretend they invented marriage, laws, philosophy and everything elseChristians are absurd, who else claims they need to discrimate to follow their faith but abrahamists
>>43389301>if u kill the homophobe u become the homophobe !lol
>>43389500yes
>>43391355>Im unironically trying to find local trannies so we can "start" a religionsign me up
>>43391355absurd indeed
>>43385424>religion is a shield for homophobiaReligion is used as a shield by homophobes who are not actually religious.Truly religious people have done a lot of good for the world. Like sailing around the world stopping ritual human sacrifice and freeing slaves.Even old-school Catholics who still do latin mass and think the current Pope is a Satanist don't make a fuss about gays. Yeah, their church won't do a gay wedding; because for them, the only reason to get married is to have kids. They wouldnt marry a hetero couple that didn't intend on trying for kids either.
>>43392294>no true scotsman