The group of people you idealize and admire and want to be more than anything in the world is the group that's obsessed with hating you, that considers your existence and your desire to be them to be an assault on their dignity and a personal insult directed at them. They write books and make whole websites to congregate devoted entirely to hating you and trying to remove you from public life. And yet you can't help but see them as superior beings, as the highest form of human existence. You can't help but worship the god that damns you.
>>43395637Are you a trans woman anon?
>>43395726I'm a straight man on estrogen who wishes he was a woman.
>>43395637Truth. I'll never be a lesbian and that haunts me more than I can put into words.>You can't help but worship the god that damns you.
>>43395637>>43395753juat get a girlfriend and stop worrying about labels
>>43395947trannies don't care about labels. we don't want to be men who are labeled women, we want to be women.
>>43395753Just be a transbian.That's already what you are.
>>43395637Wishing you were something doesnt make you that thing. There no amount of sadness you can feel about it that will change a thing. Theres no law you could pass. No fee you could pay. Nothing will ever make you a woman. Even the lesbians pretended you were one, you wouldnt be. Even if they genuinely believed you were a woman, you wouldnt be. Nothing will make you a woman. Put your heart into something you can actually change. Youre achieving nothing by whining about it.
>>43395637Yep, this shit is the reason I'll rep forever. I still remember when I was in high school in like 2013, finally putting together the pieces of my weird thoughts, when it dawned on me: oh my god. I am attracted to women and I also wish I were one. So I would be a tranny but like...lesbian? Instantly I realized that was the dumbest shit I ever heard and that I could never tell anyone about this. Seriously, back in those early 10's the idea of a transbian didn't seem to be on anyones radar. The stereotypes were still either "faggot is so faggy he turns into a woman" or "John 50 spends decades crossdressing and then leaves his family to live out his MEF fantasies". It was fucking rough, like for "representation" we had what...Mrs. Garrison? lmao fucking end me
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>>43395746then why arent you a woman
this is such a baby trans thing to worry about it man
>>43395637As a feminine attracted trans women I'm kind of over worshiping them, there's good women out there.
>>43396018I am a women and always have been and nothing can ever change that, not sorry.
>>43396018yeah ik iwnbaw but accepting it doesn't make it hurt less.>>43396136yeah the idea that a man can become a lesbian by putting on a dress and a pronoun pin is just ridiculous and obviously a fetish.>>43396187because I have a male body and mind?>>43396197I've been on hormones for over 7.5 years.
>>43396249>7.5 yearsand still this mentally stunted? lol embarrassing
>>43396249theres no such thing as a male body when youre 7 years on E, and theres no such thing as a male mind ever, wear the fucking skirt dumbass
>>43396273I'm not the poster that you're responding to but that just comes off as dismissive.
>>43395637>And yet you can't help but see them as superior beings, as the highest form of human existence.The highest form of human existence is not one that fails to procreate its existence.
>>43396346Transbian + cisf could technically procreate
>>43396307NTA but you're a delusional retard. The key factor in differentiating between Eastern trannies and Western trannies, is that Eastern trannies are at least smart enough to realize what they are. Western trannies are retards that think hormones make the body, instead of the fact that your body was decided at conception. Deal with it.
>>43396364>If we were in a hetero relationship then they could procreateYea, and then cease being a lesbian. Lesbians are attracted to vagina, not penis. And no, getting a fucked up surgery that creates a perpetual wound is not a vagina. A vagina is a unique and specialized sexual organ with a function. Unless it's grafted onto you and you use gene editing to make it stable, you'll never have one.
>>43396369>tranny, japan
>>43396273Must be man-moder.No shit nona feels like a man after 7.5 years, if they never socially transitioned. You'll only feel like a woman after living as an actual woman."Fake it" till you make it.
>>43395637Lesbians are sour grapes for me desu
>>43396411I'm not a weeb if that's what your asking, but their approach to the trans question is a lot more rational than the current left-wing trans approach, while the right wing Western trans approach is just..."stop existing, go away". The right being dumbasses does not make your position default to correct.
>>43396492trans people still have legal and social protections in real japan and not anime comics you know
>>43396512Okay? Those protections don't legitimize them as biological women.
>>43396538has there ever been a trans biological movement? have we ever asked for more than dignity?
>>43396492>rationalnona, who gives a fucking shit about rationality?none of us are rational people, because humans aren't fucking rational. the only reason to want to pretend to emulate rationality is to do science and math and shit.what the fuck does sex (fucking) have to do with "rationality"? what the fuck does the clothes you wear in public have to do with "rationality"? what the fuck does what you want to do with your life have to do with "rationality"?why do you give any fucks at all about shit like this >>43396538, what does biology fucking matter at all?if the system of ideology in your brain is incongruent with what you want to do with your life, then throw away that entire fucking system and build a new one. it doesn't fucking matter whether it's well put together. it should be the one that maximizes your own personal happiness/satisfaction with the world.
>>43396577Wow this was a big sperg-out.>humans aren't fucking rationalFor the most part we are. It's why we have society. We recognize patterns, build hierarchies, create systems of efficiency that helps to negate suffering and stress. Trans people can be included in that too, but not if they are trying to re-write what other people's identities are for their own coping.There ARE instances where YOU are the one that is wrong and need to realize it. You can live your life as female-presenting trans woman, I won't stop you, I like them, but that does not mean I am going to consider you equivalent to an actual woman. Because you're not.
>>43396570We should demand research into biotech that will be able to change our bone structure and better SRS techniquesOnly when it is possible to transform a bald, fat, 50-year-old Mexican man into a hot, thin, 20-year-old White goth girl will true trans liberation be achieved
>>43396686too bad thats science fiction and we live in reality
>>43396570Have dignity in the fact that you are trans. Don't try and take the dignity from biological women. Just because you're trans doesn't mean I don't respect your identity.
>>43396708I am explicitly describing technology that hasn’t been created yet here you absolute fucking imbecile
>>43396307I mean I'm pretty much indistinguishable from any other man except for the gynecomastia. I have a receded hairline, broad shoulders, big hands and feet, a brow ridge, etc.>>43396364that would be a straight relationship tho.>>43396412This is correct. If you look like a man and everyone around you sees you and treats you as a man, you're not going to "feel like a woman."
>>43396273frlike atp you're willfully choosing to be a tranny instead of a woman
>>43395637>Being a tranny who wishes he was a lesbian is the most pathetic thing in the world
>>43398147how could I "choose to be a woman"? I'm physically a whole-ass man.
>>43396650>I like niggers who pretend to be people, but they aren't actual people or something
>>43398188you misunderstandyou either are a woman or you aren'tbut if you choose to be a tranny, then ofc you're not a womanin your next life choose not to be a tranny and if you are a woman (soulpassing) people will know and treat you as suchtoo late for you now obviously, you have fully absorbed the moid poison (not just T but the essence of maleness) you could have had a chance to soulpass if you stopped repping/manmoding after like 2 years max but alasenjoy being a moid forever
>>43398231this is literally just magical thinking
>>43395637Girl, what. I don't idolize and admire lesbians personally.. I'm just a tranny who likes women. Lesbians are just humans like the rest of us.
>>43398484if you don't feel inferior to women as a man then why would you want to become one?
>>43398492I'm just a tranny because that's what I ended up being when I took off the mask. It's a mistake to idolize people based on their membership of a demographic group. People should like themselves and have self respect.
