>be me>straight cis man>over 1 month hrt>start having weird feelings towards other men>began fantasizing about big dudes with massive cocks plapping me>get aroused...i don't reckon any info that says estrogen turns you gay. is it really the case or it's something else that's causing these feelings?
>>43397394it doesn’t change your sexuality. You just had it in you already and suppressed it
>>43397405nah. i've been into women for as long as i can remember. but rn i'm experiencing a shift, like: less interest in women, more interest in menvery strange...
you're in for a wild ride sister
Same and i hooked up with a ftm shortly after.
Yeah, this shit changes your sexuality - this is a well known fact as it literally changes your brains.
>>43397394I have no idea and I don't buy any of the bro/hon/sissyscience theories on itsimilar experience here though
>>43397439You can repress things without being conscious that you have repressed them too y'know, you're probably trutrans instead of cis and this is just the androphilia that inherently comes with a fucked up gendered brain
>>43397394estrogen doesnt turn you gayrepression represses more things than just a transitionyou came out of the closet a little and the lust for men escaped
>>43397439do you mostly watch straight porn or lesbian porn?
>>43397394I’ve had that too but thankfully my brain is strong enough to fight it. I will always be a straight cis male
>>43397394>take female hormones>get female sexuality It's a mystery
>>43397394Idk but I get turned on whenever I imagine being intimate with a guy. Feels weird in my tummy. First time I felt it was after starting HRT. Before that I would never be able to cum with women no matter how hard I tried.
>Start taking hrt for lesbian fetish,>Start noticing guysSurprised Pikachu face
why are there so many cis men on estrogen now? i didnt see many back in 2023 when i started, i felt very alone. now we seem common
Now im scared that taking hrt will turn me from a gay man into a transbian. I really do not want to be a fucking transbian, i only want to love men
>>43397394I've seen this same thread like 100 times now. If you weren't gay prior to starting hrt, you're not gay now. Estrogen isn't what makes women desire men, it's the fact that they have a vagina and a uterus and a menstrual cycle that makes them horny during certain times of the month. Your sexuality will rebound back to straight male after the fetish euphoria runs its course.
>>43398205either looksmaxing or repressed trannies in the closet either way, it’s a very vocal minority, not many
>>43398234we were smaller minority before tho.also seemed less goony then, the new ones are more goony
>>43398253i know anon, i hate this. literally there are more people who are "agp men" on hrt than trans women and our optics are cratered
>>43398256ya idk. im sad about it. i dont relate to the gooners at all and i thought maybe id be able to find other people doing hrt for the reason i do instead of gooning or dysphoria, but thatll never happen now.
>>43398313i'm one of the people that transitioned for dysphoria so im curious, why did you transition?
>>43398325im self-diagnosed but i think i have a form of dysmorphia over my hair, and hairloss. it drove me into taking anti-dht pills and then the HRT when i became convinced finasteride wasnt working.
>>43398349ah, i see. are you happy with your hair nona?
>>43398373no. the hormones have helped in keeping the dysmorphia under control but it still springs up from time to time and ruins a day or week. i dont think ill ever be completely free from the nightmare i have been stuck in since i had to start the hormones.
>>43398395sounds a little similar to ocd symptoms. have you tried ssris for those compultive thoughts? it would sort of suck to be a man and lose your fertility and gain gyno for something that can be fixed another way
>>43398412no i havent tried ssris. ive been on hormones almost three years, my fertility is already gone (didnt really plan to use it anyway tho) and i have breast growth.
>>43398436how big are your boobs? do you hide them in daily life?also, why don't you want to use your fertility? were you already gay or something or just not into kids?
>>43398458>how big are your boobsidk, maybe a bit bigger than aa cups..? i dont know.>do you hide them in daily lifeyes i want everyone to see me and treat me as a normal man>why don't you want to use your fertility?i never had much of a sex drive and im short. combined with my mental fragility, it was clear i shouldnt have kiddos. id be a bad papa.
>>43398478i see. do you think hrt was the right decision for you?
>>43398508i dont think id be alive right now if i didnt take it. the thoughts got so overwhelming. so yeah
>>43398523thats good. im glad that even though you aren't trans you feel better in the day to day
>>43398205It just became more acceptable to talk about it. Not by much, just a little bit more acceptable.I had to lie about the reasons in 2017, lol.t. estrogenized fag
>>43398533thx anone
>>43398565lie about it? why? did you see a doctor for hormones
>>43398597Yes, I did see a doctor. "I want estrogen because I want to continue to look cute" was not (and is not) a valid reason. So I lied that I wanted to transition. It took me a while to figure out DiY.Also, talking about this in public (even in queer/fag spaces) is still not advisable.
>>43397394Sounds like me in 2014 but over 6 months or so.It's your choice if you give in or not. I did. But I'm also MEF so being with men is what I wanted.
>>43398603i see. ya that makes sense.
>>43398017Female sexuality is gynephilic tho
>>43398349Duta is better, you did not need estrogen :'D
>>43398205Yes because all you retarded “cis men” on hrt are just trannies in denial. The cultural zeitgeist has shifted back in a major way toward conservative values and with it homophobia and transphobia.No wonder more people are choosing to remain closeted. Its safer
>>43398767i am on duta too (old picture yes im too lazy to make another.)i hate the idea of any androgens attacking me>>43398798i am not trans. i have no desire to be a woman, in appearance, socially, or biologically. cus i dont have dysphoria like trans people do
>>43398798>The cultural zeitgeist has shifted back in a major way toward conservative values and with it homophobia and transphobia.nta but I started in 2017 when it was super fashionable to be a tranny. Still not a tranny, still estrogenized.This is why we don't talk about it. Because you people are just as bad as the conservatives you purport to despise. Both of y'all want us to be trannies and refuse to believe us when we tell you that we're not.The reason this is happening is due to misandry. Women who take T for non-tranny reasons don't get even 1% of the hate we get.
>>43398753“AGP” straight man larper cope, most women are weirded out by vaginas in the same way that gay men are. A relational sex drive focused on the self is not the same thing as gymephilia, if it were, lesbians would have as much sex as gay men and more than straight people but they have less than either.
>>43397942>>43397962uh, honestly, i never even thought of it. but maybe it is? like, my mindset for trooning was: "oh i'm a very straight MAN and i'm not afraid to take estrogen because MEN are afraid of nothing ARRGGH i'm very MANLY!!"yes, i know i'm repressing the shit out of being trans, but i never thought i was doing the same with being into men>>43397982i watch all sorts of weird fucked up shit, but nowadays i'm losing more and more interest in porn>>43398152shit. i feel the exact same thing
>>43398205I say I’m a cis man on HRT semi-ironically, it sounds dumb and invites no pushback from chuds and actual women (cis or trutrans). In reality I have no idea what I am, I’m devoid of identity
>>43397394Same thing happened to me, Nona. Now I have a vagina and am married to a man... If you're not okay with that eventually happening to you too, you should probably reevaluate what you're doing with your body rn.Also, it's absolutely okay to start out considering yourself a cishet man and end up a transhet woman. It's a more common experience than reddithons/transbians would have you believe, and there's nothing wrong with taking that path if it makes you happy...
>>43397394straight to straight pipelineyour sexuality did not change at all, its environment did
>>43399776not OP>Now I have a vagina and am married to a manBased. I wanna get there too by 2030. How long did it take you?
>>43397666>wants dick>hook up with dickless boyare you okay? did you hit your head a little too hard?
>>43398867I'm a woman and no, I am not weirded out by female genitals. I find wrinkly penises way more off putting. I think there are even studies where they measure female arousal to different types of porn and lesbian sex turns women of all sexualities on the most. Women love women, even if they are "hetero"
>>43400022We married after 4 years of dating, I think I was 9 years into transition and 5 years post op.
>>43400369>5 years post opBased.For now I'm on a waitlist for that and have been dating a guy for a few months. We're moving in together this year.I was a straight man in 2021 lol.
