I had pretty bad gender dysphoria from about 17 until 23–24.Got a dog (22)Got a girlfriend (23)Got a job (24)Finished uni after switchingI am now 26 and living a pretty good life as a cis male (do not give in to urges). It will get better and probably for the best. Do not troon out; it will fade away (Thank God I didn't). And if you give in to those feelings, you will be left as a castrated "gynecomast" failed male.
I have two masters degrees and I can't find a job in my fieldNever had a girlfriendNot interested in pets
>>43405104>Do not troon out; it will fade awayI believed that at 22.Now I'm trooning out at 35. With a job and a son (my wife died in the meantime).It fades away for a while. But then comes back twice as hard later on. You'll see.
Feel bad for both of you
>>43405104I've been pretty active my whole life and I trooned at 29, I haven't regretted it yet and I didn't hurt anyone with how I trooned out.I think there's this goldilock zone where you can have a functional life and enjoy your gender identity if you like being androgynous.
>>43405297Did it worked out for you? Do you pass?
>>43405104do glowies really?
>>43405324People tell me I do and I'm still very early is like less then a year but I know I much too large to pass, I guess I soul pass idk. Ya I'd say it's working out, I just feel normal now.
>>43405354I am not a glowie, Morover my gf is my childhood sweetheart (I have pictures of us in pre school) I really love her
>>43405212And how is it going for you and your son?
>>43405369I hope you find happiness
>>43405429We're making tranny jokes together. He's 16.Compared to the tragedy of losing his mother and my wife, me trooning is a marginal issue.
>>43405104same at 17 but I ended up trooning outgot surgeries done with at 21boyfriend by 22uni graduated at 24 then career started which im climbing fast inand just got a cat with bf a couple months ago at 27never get misgendered except over the phone sometimes (getting voice fem surgery in 3 weeks)hope it works out for you anon but life can turn out great even if you give in, you are right though I am definitely a failed male, much better off as a woman
>>43405104I'm a 23yo repchad about to graduate and set up for a decent job, unless something radically changes in like a year this is BS. The last two years have been the most miserable I've ever been. With my shitty genetics it's too late for me to get good results transitioning though, so now I'm trying to decide between being a manmoder eunuch with no hope of ever passing or kms
>>43405510how tf did you get surgeries done by 21>t. 25yo, 7 years hrt.
>Got a girlfriend (23)here's the difference. if you're a straight dude you might be right, but if you're born gay it makes no sense in the current meta to not be a ladyboy
>>43405104Yeah no mine peaked after I became a lot more successful
>>43405532ffs round 1 at 19 (jawline)srs at 20ffs round 2 at 21 (forehead)my face was mega fucked and I knew I was straight up unemployable as I was so I autism maxxed the surgery clearance timelines to get it all done as fast as possibleall partially or completely covered due to needing a lefort and associated reconstruction for massive bite occlusion for ffs, total cost like $25k
>>43405689god I wish I could've had srs at 20
>>43405532Nta but I finished with the surgeries by 20. It was a combination of family help, debt and saving up. Admittedly, I knew I wanted to troon from age 14 and followed my grandma's advice to do everything as fast as possible so I can have at least a chance at a normal life.It involved quite a bit of bending the rules as my country never supported minors transitioning. Had srs abroad too.Where there is a will, there is a way.
>>43405559> if you're born gay it makes no sense in the current meta to not be a ladyboyYeah but what if I’m 6ft2
>>43405822>Yeah but what if I’m 6ft2you're still gonna be a bottom whether you transition or not might as well be cute if you're gonna be a bottomplus your body feels way more erotic on estrogen during sex
I know I have a "girly face" so no problem doing later
>>43405931Just the body cirurgy to get curvy and breasts
>>43405104thats crazy i trooned at 25 and still havent had a job or a degree or a girlfriend because your survivorship bias means nothing.
>>43405212>>43405369Perhaps a form of anti-psychotic medication would be the way to go?Would have to get it prescribed though, and many of the good ones have been banned in some countries for some reason
>>43405104I am the same age as youStarted hrt at 17Have dogs, had girlfriends, have a good job.It doesn't go away and I'll be cuter than you when you crack
>>43409895>lobotomize yourself to fit my theory
>>43405104cool for you mate, but my story is different. I am 5'3 and submissive, I cannot use my cock so getting a girlfriend is absolutely out of bounds for me. I am a failed male trying to get a job in tech. My only foreseeable future is becoming a tranny pornstar.
>>43410079post hole
>>43410113sorry I don't take pictures of my "hole" and you don't want to see my ugly 30 years old MAN "hole" anyways
>>43409895incredible
>>43410150>>43410065Given the current doctrine of psychiatry/medicine though, I think such prescription would never be considered (even in a small-dose titration).Its an absolute travesty that there are people suffering with dysphoria, and psychiatrists/psychologists have seemingly completely copped-out of actually researching the condition and helping these people. I honestly believe that the normalisation of the "trans" identity into society, was driven by the health service fobbing these people off.The uncomfortable truth for many people with dysphoria, is that transitioning doesn't always help.And sometimes it can make things worse.
>>43410169You should be injected with haloperidol
>>43410169>and this is why we should chemically lobotomize people
>>43405104Yeah, I noticed the times when I had the most "gender dysphoria" was also when I was depressed and life was hard, and it often just felt like some miracle fix which would solve all my problems. Some of the earliest memories of gender dysphoria was when I was getting bullied heavily in school (and all the thoughts were your usual incel think patterns like "wow life would be easy mode if i was a woman" etc)Also it really helped that I became more honest with myself and accepting that I'm a gay guy. After some therapy i think a lot of the dysphoria was because I couldnt accept that I found men attractive. People in this board won't take experiences like this seriously though, and will say that i'll troon out in 10 years or something though.
>>43410174You know I would if I could>>43410234Perhaps a different substance? Could a therapy involving very small doses of methamphetamine or lysergic diethylamide be used, in conjunction with talking therapies?Do you have any other suggestions, or are you in support of the current "social integration" approach?
>>43409900I will just use lithium if get that bad
>>43410279Your options seem to be "completely divorce the person from reality" so yeah, I am
>>43410327I must emphasise, that the suggestion of an anti-psychotic is based on low doses, on a carefully monitored and reviewed titration period. Else, it could indeed do more harm than good.The massive elephant in the room, is the link between dysphoria and autism (that hardly any scientific researchers seem brave enough to promote, or perhaps the research is being purposely suppressed?)Since this is website is essentially autism-central (i'm probably a bit of a cyborg myself), the correlation is seen quite clearly on this LGBT board (most of the threads of Trans related)If it really is related to austim (either a fixation, or a form of dissociation), it might be why healthcare systems struggle to treat it- as there is no "cure" for autism.
>>43405485Aren't him afraid that you will kill yourself if it fails?
>>43410396>low dosesThe problem isn't the dose, the problem is that they seem to have abhorrent consequences for anybody past schizofrenics and giving them at all is a ridiculous, harmful idea. Same with SSRIs and anybody past MDD/schizofrenics.>(that hardly any scientific researchers seem brave enough to promote, or perhaps the research is being purposely suppressed?)Everybody knows that, you're self victimizing. Even Powers actively seeks genetic correlations.>If it really is related to autism (either a fixation, or a form of dissociation)Or perhaps... genetic? Do you even know what autism is? Over/underdevelopment of different brain areas, caused either by disruptions in fetal development or faulty gene copies. It's not a mental illness, this is why treating it is pointless. The only person that seems to have a retarded fixation (like dissasociation, both are symptoms, not causes) is (You)
>>43410472Don't waste your time, OP is an obvious poltard from the way he (presumably) conflates lithium with antipsychotics and "magic pill that makes brain issues go away" retardedness to the word salad where he asked tranny if the son was afraid of her killing herself "if the transition fails". No actual trans or dysphoric person thinks about it that way.
>>43405104I tried getting a gf and she was insane and bpd and absolutely ruined me. now I’m still a repper and also terrified of women
>>43410418Nope. Why would he? I won't kms if my troony project fails. I already came out as a weirdo fag (in these words but in my native tongue) and I'll simply default to that.Repping for so long comes with some perks, albeit at a huge mental cost.
>>43405104It does not go away. You are fooling yourself. I was stupid enough to do that until 25. You will eventually have a psychotic breakdown and regret the last 50 years of your life.
>>43410479>treating it is pointlessThere is no discussion to be had, if your resolve is concrete in despair.There is no permanent "cure", but surely alleviation of undesirable experiences is welcomed?>only person that seems to have a retarded fixation is you (me)Come on now, you know that isn't true. Every autist on this board has some kind of retarded fixation, including you. You just lack the maturity and confidence to admit it, lolPsychology is one of my retarded fixations.What are yours?
>>43405104Dude if you married at 26 thats a feat im 32 and still no gf and unmarried
>>43410169A *lot* of trannies are mentally ill and thus take all kinds of mental health medication. If any of it helped they would already know. Transitioning will not always make your life fine, but your life will be worse otherwise. Do you honest to god think we just somehow managed to get the entire medical establishment to lie for us, when they fucking hate us?>>43410279A lot of trannies take meth and LSD and this does not cure them. You are a WOMAN and there is no cure for this.>>43410298NOTHING CURES IT. TRANNIES ARE ON PSYCH MEDS AND IT DOES NOT TURN THEM INTO MEN.There is no cure for being a woman, Anon.
>>43410722Why would I want to lobotomize myself instead of self-actualizing as my actual genderWhy would anyone ever want to fucking do thatWhy do you think that would be better
>>43410664Oletko suomalainen?
>>43405104I'm happy for you anon.I was repping for a long time, dated women, focused on work, and that left me stable and functional for a years. Working 50+ hours a week and drinking when I wasn't working. Dreaming of wife/kids. It was a life. But I could never feel authentic and open enough to find the right person. And I didn't know what I was working so hard for.Now I'm trying to integrate my fem side more, and I'm open to whereever that takes me. Laser and clothing have been huge but I'm also on hrt.
>>43410722Genetics and analytical medicine/lab work, aka actual medicine instead of your retarded bullshit>There is no permanent "cure", but surely alleviation of undesirable experiences is welcomed?By forcing other, "socially acceptable" harmful experiences on them?
>>43410735This was more in reference to autism, rather than dysphoria>lobotomize myselfI suggest that other therapies / help should be offered to autists that feel they are suffering Is your fervent dislike of the anti-psychotics in particular, or for any form of pharmaceutical help?If you feel that self-actualisation is the best thing for you personally, then by all means continue it: but be honest with yourself about its efficacy. Has it really helped make that torrent of confliction in your head subside? Hopefully.There
>>43405104>>43405150john 50 thread
>>43410795No. Though I could easily pass as a Finn lol.
>>43410972Nord?
>>43405104honestly regret not doing the same. I probably would have been fine now but nope i transitioned and now im locked into it forever.
>>43410512I am not the transphobic you think I am, I just became really afraid because an ftm friend killed himself
Also me at 24
