women have endless social privilege
men are brutally enslaved
and 99% of people refuse to see women as humans capable of intentional maliciousness

>>43409520
Literally this is what I mean you are being so dramatic and literally saying men are enslaved which is illegal in all countries in the world

>>43409527
because this is real
men have their penises chopped off
and get abused their whole lives
while foidsimps like you screech about MUH RAPE and denying that women hurt men at all

women do nothing but hurt men all day and night
we could end all wars by murdering all vaginaborn humans

>>43409538
>end wars
>...by murdering all women
Ahahahahaha what a fucking retard

Those wars are all started by old men who want more money and more power.

>>43409538
So you are literally encouraging to do violence on women? And not all women have vaginas you know and most people on this board agree with that. And rape is worse then getting circumcised. I'm sorry it literally just is

>>43409552
nope, women want money and power, men just do what women make them do
you don't see women as having agency

it's funny to me the people that sell themselves as feminists don't actually see women as capable of having agency because that means women could want to have a mindset of hurting others with a specific purpose

you live in a delusional fantasy where women can only be nurturing caretakers

>>43409498
theyre incel screeching at you but ime as a tranny i feel like people take me less seriously (sucks) but also i get a lot more inclusion from women and i feel like guys tend to take care of me a little more. idk about sympathy but the vibes are very different. how old were you when you transitioned? i think a lot of people troon out at 18 and think they know what it means to be a man and a woman but really they're comparing boyhood to womanhood, which isnt the same

>>43409559
yes
we should slice and dice women until they no longer exist
all the pain in the universe has been caused by women and once eliminated, we will be free from suffering

>>43409498
i think that men and women struggle in different ways, and trying to invalidate one or equate both is silly
why is it seemingly impossible to admit that maybe both genders have it bad?

>>43409560
No MEN cause all the wars usually. Sometimes women but VERY rarely.

>>43409562
I transitioned young too but my point is I know both enough to know in general even if I don't have every specific

>>43409560
Women are perfectly capable of agency and being huge pieces of shit but men are uniquely great at being disgustingly immoral on average and then gaslighting you into believing no actually you're evil because *five billion retarded strawman arguments*

>>43409585
you spelled women incorrectly. women have ideas, women have desires, and those desires usually center around killing men for sport and sadism
women don't even care who wins a war, they just like watching men die and fight to breed

>>43409576
because I've witnessed women abuse men my whole life and almost never face punishment at all, and worse, having the people around me defend them
I've seen how much harm this system causes, and it's time for change

>>43409576
Well they all say men have it worse which isn't true and they have stupid memes about it which aren't funny and aren't true

>>43409585
>I transitioned young too
i wish lol, i trooned out at 22. just saying you're comparing childhood to adulthood. ofc you don't feel like you get more "sympathy" or whatever

>>43409591
Women do not like war???? Are you fucking insane

>>43409604
women love war
its a way they can weed out weak men
there's far more men than women who want to breed
men are surplus
women are also sadists and just enjoy watching men hurt each other at their request
once you understand that women ONLY want to cause pain to men, and that's their most basic drive, you can be free of their mind control

>>43409591
>>43409597
i feel like men get taken seriously, which validates their actions and invalidates their experiences, women are not taken seriously, which invalidates their actions and validates their experiences, this is why a woman can get away with murder but never be taken seriously in a corporate environment, and also why their feelings get invalidated in a way which men's aren't, whereas for men, they get full responsibility for their actions and are allowed to achieve highly without being second guessed, but aren't allowed to cry, whether you want to say one is better or worse is subjective
also, if you allow opinions to be shaped in reaction to others, then you're a retard

>>43409617
Have you ever seen a woman in war time? You are literally talking like a crazy person

>>43409628
I just don't agree women can get away with murder. People always blame us for everything

>>43409628
And you didn't have to call me retarded it's just my opinion

>>43409628
men don't get taken seriously
when women say stuff you HAVE to be fake nice to them and pretend what they are saying is amazing and valid or they can turn everyone against you
that's simply how the system works and simps like you will lie till you die

>>43409641
>expose female control of society
>he's crazy! don't listen to him!
of course

this board is full of people who don't think for themselves and never have
you are unwilling to question the system, and will be oppressed by virtue of your own ignorance

Moids are huge crybabies and think experiencing rejection from a woman they wanna have sex with is worth building your entire personality around and joining the brownshirts

>>43409651
I'm just saying there's women who have to live through war irl and they definitely don't love it if you would liten to what they think for once. And I always think for myself which is why I disagree with a lot of people

>>43409657
It's dumb! There's worse things in this world...

>>43409659
most of what women say is a lie meant to emotionally manipulate you
you are assuming women are being honest, which is a dangerous assumption
your ignorance adds so much suffering to your life

>>43409657
women are abuse machines

>>43409641
retarded incels blame women for everything but, in the real world, court systems are rigged massively in favour of women and women are routinely emotionally validated in ways that men just aren't, both for their emotions and actions
>>43409651
i just totally disagree with you, and if you really can't meaningfully engage with the other sides of an argument you're passionate about, especially this one, then maybe you should have sex?

>>43409662
So women secretly like getting bombs dropped on them and having to flee their countries?

>>43409662
>women are abuse machines
Yeah and little girls don't get raped by their dad
And my dad isn't a rapist who beat me up and put a knife to my throat

>>43409677
I'm so sorry that happened to you nona <3

>>43409677
i was also routinely raped as a child, as a man, and i've historically felt major resentment towards male sexuality

if you haven't lived into your 20s and 30s as a man you have no idea what the experience of a man is like, so don't act like you do - fuck off with that shit
we're all alone and it's all fucked and the "sympathy" we get from other humans is all fake anyway, it's always somebody trying to get something from you or person completely oblivious to the fact that their sympathy is just them projecting themselves onto your situation
fuck all humans

>>43409677
are people more sympathetic towards boys or girls who have been raped?

>>43409498
>lived both
no, you haven't
>being a woman is harder
*being a tranny

>>43409498
National news today - https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360971617/three-women-found-not-guilty-indecent-assault-after-using-sex-toys-passed-out-man

>Three women found not guilty of indecent assault after using sex toys on passed out man
>“As far as the crucial issues go, the complainant was described as being little more than a bystander because he was unconscious at the time,” Judge Savage said.
>However, the jury sided with the defence case from lawyers Ron Mansfield, KC, Katey Barker, Paul Norcross and Joanna Lorigan Innes who maintained throughout the incident was “good-natured fun”
>“Mr Mansfield urged you to have regard to the national pastime, taking the piss.

Anyways I dont really disagree with you OP but I don't entirely agree either

>>43409709
Tranny is a slur for (gasp) transgender WOMEN. try reading that back slowly

>>43409688
Well you don't live as a woman so don't talk about it

>>43409498
>being a woman is harder
>men are seen as disposable
Two things can be true actually, that's the issue people have. They're autistic. They think there's some kind of "meta" pick that will make life perfect. Men are seen as inconsequential in the face of their legacy, or lack thereof, and women are seen as shallow and pathetic little glass dolls IF they happen to be pretty enough to deserve being patronized and objectified.

>>43409761
Maybe but I mostly don't agree men are disposable they get more sympathy if anything

>>43409796
people are more sympathetic towards boys who get raped than girls who get raped?

>>43409829
No I didn't say that specifically just men usually get their own feeling and experience centered for everything

>>43409835
>they get more sympathy if anything
clearly not?
if people care more about girls getting raped

you are confusing competency with privilege

>>43409681
Ah it's fine dw
>>43409687
I'm sorry that happened to you anon
(I don't think I was raped as a child I just wanted to give a personal example after, my dad is a violent rapist but I don't remember my childhood but I don't think he touched me)
It's hard to cope with I mean I still am extremely traumatised from my childhood at 30
>>43409699
They dgaf about either. People hate when adults bring up their shitty lives.

>>43409796
You don't have to agree, men don't come up with the fantasy impulse to die in a "glorious" last stand because it's on the Y chromosome, they do it because as a general rule society does a great job getting the point across that they're meant to give up whatever they have to in order to "be a man"

>>43409838
I mean in general

>>43409846
You are talking about hypothetical stuff and I'm talking about real life day to day

>>43409498
Probably something to do with "women and children", mandatory military service, higher occupational death rates, and other examples of the thing youre saying isnt real

>>43409856
Yeah because women never suffer from those things. Sure.

>>43409851
>I mean in general
In general women are taken MUCH more seriously than they deserve, relative to their mental competence.

>>43409863
Women are not taken seriously because of people like you in this world.

>>43409876
I wish women weren't taken seriously. We'd live in a much less fucked up world.

>>43409896
what do you look like bro?
i am imagining you chuckling as you continue the cycle of hatred

>>43409896
So what women's fault is it? Is netanyahu a woman? Is Putin? Is Donald Trump? How is it women's fault.

>>43409952
you assume women cannot influence men to make decisions that favor their interests

>>43409957
Yeah you are so right because women benefit sooooo much from what they are doing...

>>43409859
Leaving aside that "never" is a far cry from significantly less, I'm not sure if theres a country where women are conscripted and men aren't or where "women and children" rhetoric is something they can "suffer from", lol

>>43409969
So women don't suffer from their boyfriends and brothers and sons and husband's getting conscripted? And women and children first is old they don't do that anymore but even then it was just a safety thing

>>43409845
don't worry, i'm not too upset about it, i don't even feel particularly traumatised, i just feel that it's very easy to have trauma colour your views on gender relations in an unhealthy way, which has certainly happened to me and i think is quite upsetting

>>43410025
Yeah it used to for me too and then I started overcompensating on the other side (man-hating into woman-hating kinda) now i just hate and distrust everyone

>>43410883
i hate to say that i often feel similarly, people are just so evil, so innately imbued with strange selfishness and lust
but i'm trying to be kinder though, and to use my cognitive empathy regarding this matter to actually be empathetic instead of using it to hate more effectively

>>43410894
Yeah me too. I mean i have like a code i kinda live by lol, I don't want to create harm onto others and will probably dedicate my life to helping others so yknow
But that doesn't stop us from having those survival first instincts

whenever a mra-type brings out the "women secretly control the world because uhh its actually WOMEN that come up with everything and they just influence poor helpless men to do it" you gotta just disengage the conversation there because theyre beyond the point where any rationality will sway them from their cope conspiracy world

>>43410929
but it's fine when feminists do it

>>43410928
yes, i'm trying to be good, volunteering time and money where i can, though i admit mostly to nature projects and charities, i don't think i could bring myself to give to human charities just yet

>>43410959
Yeah I think it's quite common right. Like I'm vegan and definitely enjoy the company of cats more than that of humans lol
My non-human family members are the only reason I made it through the abuse (and repression out of survival) without committing suicide