Does transitioning mtf make it impossible (or just really really hard) to get a cis f girlfriend
>>43424831>cis girlfriendwhy do you strictly want your girlfriend to be cis first of all
100% its gonna be open being transbiens are gross lol
>>43424937Why do I, a person attracted to women, prefer women who were born with vaginas, have feminine proportions from having the correct puberty and hormones for their gender identity, and were socialized as girls and women?
>>43424962On the money with weasely wording
>>43424831Why are you still lusting after women? I find it hard to believe you are a lesbian. Are you even on HRT?
>>43425025Stay male so you can leave sopping virile loads in AFAB pussy the way nature intended
>>43425077I have gender dysphoria and the thought of sticking my penis in something repulses me
>>43425025Don't ever take HRT you retard
>>43425025>>43425093wow, you have really high standards for somebody who is in a terrible position to have high standards. that's not going to be fun
>>43425093The thought of you declaring you aren't a guy but still are madly attracted to women sickens me
>>43425121The standards in question>be 1 of 4,000,000,000 people?????????
>>43425121Estrogen is going to FUCK THEM UP95% chance they are back here in 6 months crying about their dick being dead and begging for a pharmaceutical solution
>>43425125I don't see where that was declared
>>43425142I'm already on estrogen. Why would I want the dick I wish I didn't have to work
>>43425130you think all afabs have>"feminine" proportions>"the correct puberty">female socializationand that's beyond ignorant. there are chinese women alive right now who are male socialized. and do you know what PCOS is? so you want a cisf who is "feminine" according to her agab, and checks all those very rigid boxes for you, while accepting that you are extremely gender non-conforming (per your assigned birth gender). that doesn't seem like an easy situation
>>43425156Why do you want stranger pussy when you are going to get your own?
>>43424831it actually makes it easier if you end up passing well because you become an exotic rarity and there are a LOT of cisf chasers, to them a woman with a dick is the best part of a man combined with a woman that is not a man, meaning your sexual value goes up compared to either cis men or cis women
>>43425196I said prefer, I never said I would exclusively date some picturesque idealized female idol. You grossly misinterpret everything I say while ignoring the very simple reality of what I'm saying. Why would pcos be a deal breaker to me? According to this thread >I'm not actually into womenAnd also>I'm only allowed to like people born with a penis regardless of their gender identity
>>43425204Are there actually a lot of cis f chasers because everyone online says the opposite
99% of cis women want to date a boyfriend.
>>43425232You will take the dick, and you will love it, bitch
>>43424831Best chance is to date women while you're male then transition when she's already invested. That's kinda what I fell into with my ex, tho she's bisexual.Doing this knowingly is morally wrong though.
>>43425232>Why would pcos be a deal breaker to me?so you'd date a cis woman with more facial hair than you? you're not saying anything clearly or simply. you laid out a very specific set of conditions and then retreated into a sham generality. it's very tiresome. just date who you want to date and stop consulting grok you brainrottee
>>434252448,300,000,000 world population4,000,000,000 women half of population2,800,000,000 adult aged women population1% of that is 28,000,000 women, thats quite a lot
>>43425281Women with pcos don't have full man beards, you're being ridiculous. I dont and have never used grok and don't use any ai, you literally can't stop making shit up
>>43425302ok? somehow i feel like if your standards were actually "any cis woman/4,000,000,000" you wouldn't think it's extremely difficult to impossible to get a gf
>>43425346I'm just asking trans people who have transitioned and might have real world experience with this how many cis women would date a trans woman, because my assumption is few if any, but I recognize that may not be the case so I'm asking other people. I know my existence as a male who wants to be female is seen as the worst possible thing in the world to cis people but now I know being male who wants to female and also likes people born female is the worst thing in the world to trans people
>>43425025saying this as a mtf yourself is truly somethinglike how fat men dont wanna date fat womenyoure fake, and it brings a tear to my eye to say it I almost feel bad because the transbian slander is gonna continue in this thread without protest but you knowshoulda just been straight
>>43425390>"grokchan tell me women won't date trannies">"women won't date trannies">"holy shit"also, there are transbians all over this board, so you're totally wrong to think trannies as a whole frown on transbianism
>>43425420Do you think people in wheelchairs should only date other people in wheelchairs? Or amputees should only date other amputees? If I was born female and preferred cis women you wouldn't be giving me any shit about it
>>43425421are you seriously pretending that this board doesn't shit on transbians endlessly?
>>43425479if you saw the kinsey thread yesterday everyone in it was bi and this board shits endlessly on bis too. tfw you reailize its all just self hate projection
>>43425295Of those 28 million how many are within 1000 miles of you and even speak your language? Then imagine having any standards on top of that.
>>43425460you fail to live up to your own standards. yes, we would be giving you shit, if you were the stinky cis femcel who blogs about her yellow fever in /clg/ all day and assuredly does not look like the xitter models she reposts. i do go out of my way to give that person shit explicitly
>>43425523Yes obviously I fail to living up to my own standards, I was born male. I cannot stop being born male. It is literally impossible for me to overcome that. You would never tell a a paraplegic that they're wrong for preferring an able bodied partner, how can you not see your own bias?
>>43425547you literally wrote the webcomic. one panel, two people in wheelchairs, neither of them have legs. one says to the other, "sorry, i only date people who can walk"
>>43425577Do you really not understand that attraction comes from the mind and not the circumstances of your physical body?
>>43425597attraction comes from body and brain working together as a desiring machine. nothing comes from the mind. it's a placeholder for the negative space of the psyche
>>43425632the body and brain are the same thing
>>43425632So if you get into a car crash tomorrow and get paralyzed from the neck down you will forbid yourself from ever being attracted to anyone who isn't paralyzed from the neck down?
>>43424831If you’re tall and still have your dick cis women will fuck you regardless of your gender
>>43424831Bait thread or retarded OP?Wanting cis vagina while having bottom dysphoria is an insane combo.
>>43424831it's not impossible>t.in a c4t relationship
>>43425025Yeah OP with that kind of internalized transphobia yes no cis f is going to love you. No cis woman who dates trans women is going to want someone who is transphobic, I nearly broke up with my trans girlfriend because she had an episode of saying mean things about trans women like they are disgusting or gross in a certain way. I would never date a transphobic cis woman so then I would also never date a transphobic trans women. Sort your own prejudices before you can look for love, because hatred makes you unlovable
>>43425025AYO cuh, look at dis choosin beggar ass nigga
>>43425715Wanting a woman with a vagina is not transphobic
>>43425242Never met one of my kind
>>43425715i actually only date somewhat-transphobic trans women. my girlfriend is "one of the good ones" etc. the real problem is only when she gets self-hate brainworms about it.
>sorry transbian, even though biological women outdate you 1,000 to 1 you're not allowed to DARE think about dating one>you're a subwoman, you can only date subwomen of your own caste, you don't get to date freely like we dothis board is actually insane
>>43425743It is, it is pretty transphobic, but even theni can excuse a genital preference, but having a vagina is not your issue, you want cis women because you feel they are superior to trans women in some weird way, you said it earlier in the thread like they have more intrisic value for being cis that trans women don't have, thats fucking disgusting. No cis woman is going to date you like this, you have a lot of internalized transphobia to work through, the best you'll ever get is a weird chaser that doesn't think you're a woman and only wants you so you can stick your dick in her, which you said you don't want. No cis woman who actually respects and cares about trans women will want you when you are this bigoted to your own community, I definitely wouldn't. Please work on yourself
>>43425774do you think that gay men see men as having more intrinsic value than women? should they work on themselves so they can date women
>>43425754Perfectly proving my example of only people who don't really care about trans people and only see them as vulnerable people they can exploit
>>43425778What are you even saying
>>43425786am i exploiting my girlfriend by loving her and being in a happy and committed relationship
>>43424831transbians are like gaydens, only real girls/boys satisfy their boderline rapey needs, very funny group of "trans" people (aka cis people with same sex porn fetish)as an intersex tranny this is even funnier, because I had transbians have interest in me because they assume i'm cis because tits and curves and a fem voice, until I was like "yeah I got a dick too" and suddenly they act like cis men supposedly do (they don't btw, unless ur dating the most gross man alive)
>>43425743trans women have vaginas though??
>>43425025this is straight up just transphobia with a performative 'its not transphobia' veneer>>43425390'being transphobic is the worst thing in the world to trans people' cant imagine that, you're crazy
>>43425800When you actively seek out self hating trans people who have internalized transphobia you are fundimentally looking for vulnerable people who fundimentally have self worth issues, whether you realize it or not that is exploitative, it's one of the most well known manipulation tactics in existance
>>43425025>>43425778>sees trans women as men>admits to being socialized as a male>doesn't pass or have feminine proportions (or a vagina), thinks every trans woman is like him>wants to plow cis f pussyyeah you're just another transphobic straight man OP! might as well join a transbian polycule now cuz no woman is touching you
>>43425125where do you think you are?
this post is legendary, literally the perfect transbian bait thread
>>43425871i don't "actively seek out self hating trans people." i moreso meant that every trans woman i've met who acted like a woman was somewhat transphobic to those who don't. that wasn't something i looked for; it just happened that way.
>>43425810>things that happened once with one single weirdo but are suddenly representative of a whole group>also when transbians date cis women they are straight men pretending>and when they date trans women they are gay men pretendingdont get me wrong OP is a retard and i hate them just as much as you but transbian hate is retard pickme tranny shit
>>43425964i'll stop being a retard pick me tranny shit when transbians stop making posts like this
cis women are allowed to>prefer cis women>prefer trans women>like both cis and trans womenbut trans women can only >prefer trans women>like both cis and trans womenwhy?
>>43426013no you can have preferences but the reasons OP gave for that preference were literally all transphobic and very cis male coded
>>43426013because trans women are not women
>>43426013because trans women are the bottom class of society and they dont get anything they want and will die alone unless with other undesirable faggot creatures
>>43426013I think both are bad actually
>>43426035I think you can be accepting of trans people while still preferring a cis romantic partner and not be transphobic because of this
>>43426169when your reasons for said preference are all false assumptions about how a trans woman looks and acts, then yes it is transphobic. there are many legitimate reasons why one would prefer a cis partner but those ain't it.
>>43424831>not already transitioning >old enough to post here>primary concern of transitioning is the potential to get laidI know pedophiles who are less creepy
>>43426257How do you know that that's actually op's primary concern? Just because they made the thread about it doesn't mean that's their only hangup about transitioning.>a trans woman liking cis women is creepier than someone being sexually interested in actual childrenI think the transbian hate has genuinely gone too far
>>43426297you're 1000% OP samefagging but, i agree transbian hate in this board has gone too far, OP is still an evil retard though
>>43425025Ignore all the butthurt comments, people are allowed to have preferences and ideals, and yours are entirely understandable and natural. Bitter people will twist your words and frame any preference to something they aren't as a "phobia" towards the thing they are. If you happen to not find a partner because of too high standards or too little flexibility, it's your problem, not theirs. Don't be bullied and manipulated.
>>43424831No, it doesn't make it impossible to date cis women. Id say im a maybe 6 or 7/10 kindve passing twinkhon for reference. Ive dated both cis women and trans women. Though theyre usually going to expect PIV sex, which does kindve bother me because like you I also have serious bottom dysphoria. I think you have some serious internalized transphobia though that you should deal with. Theyll respect you more if you dont hate yourself. Though honestly I dont think it's worth dating other trans women. most of them are in drama filled polycules that will mean youve now got a whole group of people who want you dead when you break up with them, the sex is actually generally nothing special, theyll resent you for anything you have that they dont, and most of them who are t4t are just not capable of being great partners. And by the way Ive probably heard trans girls ive slept with say they feel like theyre having gay boy sex just as often if not more than ive heard cis partners compare our sex to straight sex, so dont think youre going to be seen for what you are just because theyre also trans. People like to mythologize t4t but id say its just different problems same shit in the end. Usually the trans girls that have their lives together enough to actually be good partners are just going to be dating cis people already so you should too.
>>43425025vaginas are disgusting and the point of transness is to be rid of them you should just kill yourself you troubled moid
>>43426548it's on to have preferences but your preferences say something about youop is an adult who has not started transition their transition results will be hampered because of this not only that the first gripe they have is "getting chicks" finding a partner is never a number one priority in life and the mention of this likens op to chauvinistic incel communitieswhat people find offensive is how an incel chauvinist hon in the making is out here saying either they view themselves as better than those who aren't even ugly, masculine or creepy like they are or their primary reason to interact with a woman is to obtain their rotting fish organs and any facet of their humanity is superfluous
