Lots of transmascs on twitter seem to jump on and attack random transfems, try to defend womanhood from amab intruders, talk about their deep connection to womanhood and lesbianism, and generally just misgender mtfs and themselves. Meanwhile, mtfs try to insist that they're the same as cis women and get angry at the insinuation that they're not. So, why the gap? I have a couple theories:1: a lot of the people who identify as trans men or transmascs on twitter are cis women. this is probably true of some of them, there do seem to be a lot of non-transitioning transmascs, but I've also seen this behavior from people on testosterone, and I don't think a cis woman would want to take T.2: identifying as male is punished in woke online spaces, while identifying as female is rewarded with social capital: this makes some sense, especially given that transmascs frequently misgender themselves to position themselves and victims and mtfs as oppressors to win online arguments.3: afab people are socialized to identify with womanhood, the community, the identity, the oppression, and the sense of noble victimhood that comes from the oppression, in a way amab people aren't socialized to identify with manhood. This seems to be true of cis people. cis men may identify as men, but it's usually not their primary sense of identity, whereas for women it's often womanhood.idk, what do you guys think? btw I'm not saying all transmascs do this, just that it's a lot more common in transmascs than transfems.
Because female socialization consists of holding each other captive, they all have stockholm syndrome. Mtfs included. I wonder why lesbian couples have the highest abuse rate
An important factor that you're forgetting is that twitter is flooded with propaganda bots pushing ideological nonsense. How many of those FtM are legitimate female to male transsexuals who exist in the real world? Nobody really knows.
>>43440379I honestly just think it's because being a man really, really, really sucks, and that a lot of men are incredibly evil
>>43440526being a man is generally pretty advantageous. the average man has more money, more power, and lower rates of depression.
masculinity was religiously torn down for 100 years straight. the result is that masculinity can't even be defined anymore. what are boys supposed to hold onto about being a man besides their physical traits?
>>43440542what are you talking about? men hold the vast majority of positions of power in public and private institutions, they produce the vast majority of popular art and culture, the majority of which centers male characters, and they still make more money than women. they have political, economic, and cultural hegemony.
>>43440566you didn't answer my question.
>>434403794: MtFs are more interested in distancing themselves as far from maleness as possible, because it is the association to maleness that makes people want to kill them. Openly identifying as AMAB with AMAB experiences is contrary to this goal. FtMs are generally invisible and seen as harmless so they don’t face the same pressure
>>43440577idk maybe some of the stuff from the endless parade of movies, books, music, tv shows, and games that are made by men, about men, and for men? you guys have gone from having the whole pie to 80% of the pie and you act like you're the most dispossessed people in the world.>>43440617I mean this is kinda true but mtfs seem to get upset by being associated with maleness even when there's no threat of violence because it makes them dysphoric.
>>43440637>idk I agree
>>43440637>it makes them dysphoric.Maybe this is mostly a response to social pressure? Would saying “yeah I used to be male” be such a big deal in a utopia with no prejudice?
>>43440637>mtfs seem to get upset by being associated with maleness even when there's no threat of violence because it makes them dysphoric.nta and i dont like being associated with it when its used to exclude me but i do feel like being born male gave me experiences i otherwise wouldn't have and a deeper understanding of the men around me. obv i dont say ts outside of here because ill be treated like a freak rapist misogynist and put at higher risk of rape/murder
>>43440678No my AGAB is literally none of anyone's business and has no impact on anything. Also I was "assigned" male because society tried to force and groom me to be that way, it's not a real thing it's just society's box it tried putting me in
>>43440379why do fags like you never shut up
>>43440693>being male isn't realok go get pregnant?
>>43440697foid rage wuh woh
>>43440684i feel the same as you to be honest, i dont really feel like it makes me a man or anything, but i feel like im weird for thinking that, im just a woman to myself even though ill probably always be a xy penishaving pedophile rapist moid to all the women around me which is pretty miserable
>>43440379You are ignoring manmoders completely to hedge your averages
>>43441801manmoders dont cling to manhood, theyre basically prevented from transitioning due to geneticshave you ever seen a manmoder happy about being one? theyre fucking miserable
>>43440379It's very obviously point 2 + the infiltration of online spaces by turbo normies. These normoids want all the clout from being a queer in online spaces without any of the drawbacks it comes with in real life. For them the label ''transmasc'' is just another aesthetic to wear that will stop being cool in a few years. Though it's been going on since 2020 so it may take a while.
>>43441983Im a moder and i am happy sometimes :(
>>43441801>using non-passing MtFs to justify women being attention-seeking, zero accountability, histrionic whoresThe amount of times they've used this argument is telling.Knowing women can reach these levels of delusion so easily, we're lucky the world is run by men.>>43442013>happy about being oneNTA but that's the key statement. Even a John 50 can feel happy about something every now and then.
>>43440379>transmascThere's your answer. gnc transmascs are not ftms
Womanhood means privilege in first world countries
>>43440617Superficially, maybe, but they also often act painfully malebrained and also misogynist and flaunt their maleness to the point they obviously don't care that much. Plus the existence of boymoders who boymode for like 3+ years shows many of them aren't all that motivated either.
despite being a man being easier overall due to patriarchial forces being a guy is still pretty ass as you are born into a world that tries to turn you into a misogynistic emotionally disconnected masculine vessel at all timesfemale socialization is ass as well but much more communal and valorizedthe average male childhood as an autistic, awkward fag is gonna be miserable as shit(this is what most trans women are pre hrt desu) vs female childhood which is filled with weird bullshit you need to be safeguarded from but at least allows you a decent range of expression
>>43444638>male socialization is ass and your life will suck unless you're some sort of sociopath Gigachad but being a man is still easier overall because uhhh.. patriarchy!!
>>43440379In some countries, the line between butch lesbian and trans man is still somewhat blurred. Look at the country of the profiles saying these things and you’ll see some patterns.>>43440450 is also a trvke.
>>43440379Remember when Billie Eilish dressed up like Flavor Flav for a while? Remember when Miley Cyrus went from a Disney channel star to twerking on stage at the VMAs?That's the reason why mtfs eagerly leave "manhood" and ftms "don't". No I will not explain further.
>>43440437don’t those studies include lesbians who were in relationships with men, trans that’s where the vast majority of their abuse comes from?
