>>43444521
relationships are a two way street. hope this helps!

>>43444538
Relationships are not transactional
Hope this helps

>>43444521
Never let someone have control over your life

I pay for my neet chaser bf and in return I receive boundless love and affection...

Same

Chaser offered me a place to stay and said he didn't expect anything from me but then he was begging for blowjobs like a month later

>>43444604
Telling this to the government

>>43444696
Free place to stay for a month. Poor you

>>43444606
>neet chaser bf
h-hi

>>43444741
Being a predator is not cool anon

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>>43444521
Date a trans girl then

Get a job

>>43444752
Not looking to create a harem

>>43444798
shoo transbian

>>43444521
You’re really stupid if you think they would just give you so much love unconditionally lol

>>43444538
With trannies the street is a dead end.

>>43445127
We were here first chaser scum
Have you played ff10?

>>43444753
Asking for something after a month doesnt make you a predator. Makes you parasite

>>43444521
do u want to be treated like a woman or not bro

>>43444521
Nigga chasers just try to rizz you up with gifts to get you to do more depraved things for them, while they attempt to use details about where the gifts get sent to, so they can stalk you, because they think since they bought you lots of stuff that you are their property.

>>43444589
They kind of are, why else would someone pay for your lifestyle?

I mean maybe he's not gross enough to say outright I'll let you live with me rent free if you blow me when I'm horny but that's what's implied if you don't have a delulu mentality

>>43445426
saying you're offering free housing and then trying to turn it into sex slavery a month later does in fact make you a predator

>>43444521
Why exactly is anyone expecting anything to be actually free with no strings attached? Even your own family has some expectation of you pulling yourself up to not be a total waste of space and life, and they're genetically related to you and have every incentive to root for your survival.

>>43444589
Relationships are transactional, you just wish they weren't, but you can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets full faster. The only reason any human being cooperates, or even interacts with any other human being is because we want to accomplish things in some way and it works out to an advantage when people work together, or even work against each other. If we were building society purely from a survival-oriented point of view in which no gain of any kind was taking place, you would avoid other people like the plague because the only threat to you at the top of the food chain barring a freak happenstance of nature is other human beings.

>>43444521
What's the point in dating trannies if you behave like women? Kek

>>43444538
>>43444589
Anything is fine so long as both parties clearly express their intentions and respect each other's boundaries. Hope this helps!

yeah that should be obvious

>>43446065
>>43446166
i hate people like you

>>43446724
yeah because you're mentally a child

>>43446066
Not what they said

>>43446790
youre a sociopath

>>43446847
look inward for that comment

why do you think someone should pay for your life for nothing in return?

>>43446932
i dont think that! i think that viewing relationships as transactional is depressing, how can true love be a transaction?? thats such a sad way to think

>>43447016
>true love
bro its 2026 we're doing situationships and casual sex wtf do you mean

>>43446724
Don't care, didn't ask, fuck off. Faggot.

>>43447077
this is why everyone hates chasers

>>43447380
Just date another troon that's what most of you do anyway

>>43444521
>I will get gift, money and free housing
>You will get- huh, nothing in return
Why don't you just go live with your parents then

>>43447449
not surprising considering how evil you guys are!!

>>43447524
Weak b8

>>43446724
Get a job or get on some dick if you want to be a sugar baby, faggot.

>>43447479
if it's not free just say that from the start, don't play manipulative games

>>43448434
Do you really expect a man to pay for everything and get nothing in return?
Don't take advantage of people like that, it's evil

>>43448483
If he wants something in return he should say so instead of lying about it. That is evil

>>43448534
Do you think he was doing charity work?
I don't understand if you're trolling or extremely manipulative

>>43448559
Why do you keep dodging the crux of the issue. If the guy isn't doing charity work, why lie about it? That is the manipulation

>>43448575
So do you expect a guy to be doing charity work on you?

>>43448598
If he says he is, yes.

>>43448606
And you actually believe it? Again you're either retarded or manipulated him into it. Or either you or him is extremely gullible.
Anyway I wish you the worst

>>43448626
>man lies
>you manipulated him into it
huh?

>>43444589
>somebody should pay for all my shit so i can end up still being dysphoric and sad anyway and i shouldn't have to do a single thing in return
waow

>>43448632
Yes you're a manipulative evil bitch bye

As a chaser I all want you is to smoke meth and breed my chaser ass.
Don't talk to me if you have less than 9 inch dick though. Sorry but not sorry

Chasers really showing their asses with this thread lmao

>>43444521
>Chaser offers you a place to stay after family kick you out
>Lets you sleep in his bed
>Cry when you wake up the next morning tied to it
Did you really think it was free?

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>>43444589
>>43446166
i don't expect much rational thinking from this site but esp this board in general but unless you're actually 10 nobody thinks relationships are transactional. stop conflating relational relationships based on building trust and love where things are reciprocated out of genuine adoration and care with sexwork or slave labor.

transactional is "if i do this you MUST do this" and keeping tabs. nobody that loves you while dating or married, friendships or even in an ideal family does that. you can argue that some points might seem transactional but not the overall relationship an example being your parents expecting you to take care of them in their old age and not drop them in a home, but they didn't put you in great schools or cherish you growing up to be like " i can't wait for my retirement to grow up make a bunch of money so i can solely mooch off them"

there are transactional romantic relationships the difference is it's honest from the jump. if you're a trophy wife there is an exception you will take care of yourself appearance and personality wise from when you be walked around galas or work dinners. you look attractive and be charming and he funds your life. if you're a sugar baby same thing, he funds your college tuition and rent and once a month he does fetish stuff with you, go out to events, etc.

a chaser trying to gaslight you after doing the bare minimum of just being a doting partner doesn't mean you have to put out or sell your soul. you say and point out the obvious "are you too broke for a sex worker?". there's parasitic men that want a mommy, bangmaid, and a therapist all for the low price of a cheesecake factory date and getting you some vbucks. it's in their best interest you're insecure or will take crumbs because if they could get better they would. they wouldn't take their dream girl back to their place to smoke some weed and fuck on their floor mattress.

fuck i would do a lot for a lot less

>>43449983
gain self worth, nona

>>43449869
truth

>>43451399
you'd drink piss in a desert

>>43451693
No

>>43444589
So you're fine with a relationship where the other person is a leech and contributes nothing?

>>43453062
bear grylls would

>>43445131
I loved my ex in this way, I was happy to do almost anything for her sake.
All I ever wanted in return was to see that she was happy and unburdened, she had a gorgeous smile, one to kill for.

>>43453314
Cuck behavior like that is why she left

>>43453355
Bait used to be believable

>>43453386
Not even bait. Men that don't respect themselves is the biggest ick

what do chasers expect from you? ive been talking to this cute guy recently, he appears to be one of the ones who likes male/autism brain... hes rly hot soooo if its just sex + regular relationship stuff im very fine w that, since he hardmogs (hes a beard and abs type of guy) me but

>>43449869
>transactional is "if i do this you MUST do this" and keeping tabs. nobody that loves you while dating or married, friendships or even in an ideal family does that.
Frankly this is cope. Yes, it's bad if people are trying to nickel and dime emotional effort. No, it's not bad if someone expects any kind of reciprocation.
>a chaser trying to gaslight you after doing the bare minimum
Extremely telling that you view "giving someone a place to live rent free, if not paying their bills and buying them gifts" (what OP described) as the bare minimum.
>there's parasitic men that want a mommy, bangmaid, and a therapist all for the low price of a cheesecake factory date and getting you some vbucks
And there's parasitic women who want an emotional sponge, a piggybank, and a 2nd father for the low price of LITERALLY NOTHING, evidently, if having sex with them and being an emotional safe haven is apparently asking too much from the person you house for free and buy gifts.
>they wouldn't take their dream girl back to their place to smoke some weed and fuck on their floor mattress.
Someone will give the woman of their dreams what they can. A long term relationship involves building each other up. If he's capable of giving you more and is treating you like you're disposable and undeserving, that's one thing. But the way you've written all of this clearly shows you expect him to give you the world. You are literally the one making it more transactional than it ever was in the first place. Basically outright stating you wouldn't even accept gifts from a guy who isn't making six figures in one of the most fucked states the US economy has been in in decades. Clown behavior.

>>43453414
Both having self respect, and doing what you can for your s/o's QoL is, as it happens, something that CAN occur!
I do wonder what kind of man YOU would enjoy seeing yourself with, unless you're a stereotypically insufferable transbian.

Ultimately this thread is beyond retarded and I really hope it's just bait.

If you accept gifts from people outside of social events where it's a social stigma to decline, with ZERO intention to every reciprocate, you are a leech. This also includes letting someone pay your bills but can be somewhat understandable if you're at risk of getting kicked out or something and GENUINELY have no other option.

There are a TON of options for housing support or free housing as a woman, even as a trans woman. If you are ending up living with some guy, you are actively choosing to forgo those services. If you aren't actively looking for another place to stay, or for work to pay part of the rent/utilities, and evidently also are not interested in paying for it in other ways or even just having a romantic relationship with the guy, YOU are now the problem. NO ONE is offering permanent living arrangements in this kind of situation. They very obviously expect you to do SOMETHING. Even government handouts are typically restricted to people who are making an active effort to find work.

You aren't just a poor soul looking for a little help at a rough point in life. You are demanding comfort, attention, and monetary donations from people you have absolutely no respect or affection for. You want to coddled like a child.

>>43453663
>There are a TON of options for housing support or free housing as a woman, even as a trans woman
LMAO

>>43444521
how about you kill yourself nigger let a nigga chase

>>43453545
>A long term relationship involves building each other up.
many women are really allergic to the concept of being an adult partner in a relationship, womenchildren if you will

>>43456088
"let people enjoy things"

>>43456285
Yeah it really seems like the only ones with any emotional capacity are pretty unlucky in a lot of ways. But there's also a large influx of girls who outright expect relationship level treatment from men without even pretending they're in a functional relationship. And they get to hide how embarrassingly entitled they are by abusing therapyspeak, plausible deniability, and whataboutisms. "I don't want to give people anything" Okay cool! Then you don't want a relationship!

>>43456498
>the only ones with any emotional capacity are pretty unlucky in a lot of ways
when you can't coast on your good looks, you've gotta become a decent person or you'll be one of those seething cishons that become terfs and similar
> But there's also a large influx of girls who outright expect relationship level treatment from men without even pretending they're in a functional relationship. And they get to hide how embarrassingly entitled they are by abusing therapyspeak, plausible deniability, and whataboutisms. "I don't want to give people anything" Okay cool! Then you don't want a relationship!
yep, just grey rock them - give them no ammo to DARVO you and just deny being a simp for them. they deserve to get pump and dumped until they grow some responsibility and fix their femcel nonsense

Funny thing is that most trannies are so desperate that if the chasers were just honest, they'd get their sex pets without the manipulative lying

my chaser bf loves me… he may be 10 years older than me but i feel so maternal towards. he pays for my life style, gives me guidance, he isn’t controlling at all, he’s just a sad old man, not all chasers are bad, some just deeply want a connection

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>>43444589
>t.

>>43447016
>true love
>no sex
>no will to contribute anything in return whatsoever
???

False altruism is a problem but don't be so cynical you refuse to see kindness in your fellow man.

>>43444521
trannies will move into your house sleep in your bed eat your food and use your health insurance then act confused when you assume there's romantic intentions. that's how you know they're really women

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>>43444538
nooooooo trans rights are human rights trans rights are human rights!

free stuff from chasers forever or you suck

>>43460471
If you want vsexvas payment, ask for it first