Why does nobody ever talk about that most men are balding/thinning, but hide their thinning through their barber?Genuinely, most men with "hair" over 35 have combovers. Barbers will openly discuss these options with you if you go in as an older male. This is rarely discussed and it creates the false implication that more men keep their hair than what actually happens in reality. It's shitty and I feel like it causes a lot of trans women to rep, thinking their appearance will never change. When really, a staggering majority of men will have noticeable hair changes before even 25.If I knew losing hair with age was a guarantee of male aging, my exploration of my gender identity would have been a lot quicker. I wish people talked about this more.Being bald is being a man. It just is how it is.
>>43452328It's not even people covering up their balding. A staggering amount of men don't even realize they are balding, because it is progressive and not noticeable at first. Especially if you are diffuse thinning, instead of receding. You won't know you're losing hair until you wake up one day and start noticing spots, but really you've probably been losing for the past decade since you were 18.I bet it's closer to 50-60% by 30 desu, and most people just aren't literally counting the hairs on their head and thus don't notice or report it for statistics gathering.
A lot of men get hair implants too and you just assume otherwise
>>43452348>>43452328I trooned in my mid-30s. I definitely have less hair than I did when I was young, but it's not bad enough that it's over. In particular the hair on the top of my head definitely feels like there's less of it, but I still have mostly a full head of it and there wasn't really much recession or anything like that. It's just less hair. Overall I consider myself a lucky one.
>>43452328asian women go bald at a pretty crazy rate too actually, look at the grannies next time you're on the train. in all the important races the balding rate for men is like 1/3, so you should split your stats into androgenic hairloss and general population groups
Why do cis guys just let their hair go like that? Surely they could use some oils and nicer products to keep it.
>>43452644Oils and hair products aren't gonna stop the natural biological process of male pattern balding
>>43452651Fin + rosemary oil combo? Surely there must be meta starts at this point.
>>43452644Hmm as a cis guy I think its 2 things, how much your hair is a part of your identity/look and would you look good bald?For me it was not really and the second was yes, so I kinda just let it go and grew facial hair out, for me though I broke halfway and hopped on everything to get it back, but even later in life most guys end up regretting letting it go, as we end up focusing on what other people think looks good rather than what we want
>>43452760Thank you for the explanation cis anon
>>43452673rosemary likely doesn't do anything it's based on a shitty studymeta is just fin/duta + minox nizoral can help a bit but in healthy people it's better to go straight for fin (if you have seborrheic dermatitis it's a different story as it can cause hair loss on its own)
>>43452328Alot of men don't bald at all, it's genetics.
>>43452348yeah its true i had diffuse and woke up one day at 35 noticing about a 1/4 inch recede into thin on my temples. i always had widows peaks since i was like 14 tho so i didnt notice even longer. kinda only noticed cause i had like 3-4 stray hairs still growing forward from that 1/4 inch and it looked weird as fuck. nothing i can do about massive skull and brow ridge which is way worse than the widows o well started injecting e the next week, quit smoking, started scalp massages, bought minox i dont use, and started rosemary and mint shampoos, and religiously taking multivitamin and collagen. pretty sure its gonna be ok and already reversing. also everyone around me is way balder even old cis ladies and i way over reacted the amount of scalp you can see through my thinning is really not that bad or any worse than every other cis female teen i see with a part and pony. i dont also dont care if my half routine is placebo i just do what i can and im not gonna minox cause kitties or fin/dut cause sides and already e
>>43452328get with the times boomer. balding is literally a choice and has been since the early 90s when finasteride was released.
>>43452328idk i saw my hairline receding at 24 and it made me so suicidal i immedietly stopped repping and took estrogen. it all grew back lol
>>43455879Is it possible for an otherwise fully hormonally normal man to sustain his hair perpetually (10+ years) with only finasteride? Just curious
>>43455980yes
>>43452673post-fin syndrome is a real thing tho, if you happen to have the unlucky endocrine genetics combo. broke libido or pp are big risks too. as a cis straggot hoping to find a woman, have a satisfying romantic and love life with her, start a family, not get cheated on and divorced, I can probably work with bald (did buzz cuts while young, skull shape is pretty alright) and it'll filter out the women that wouldn't be good partners, while libido pp stuff is higher prioso I've made peace with my higher and higher brow over the last few years, as well as graying hairsonce we have drugs with acceptable sides, sure. I'm likely too early for that train (and my hair too late for it), but in the meantime I leave it to the trans folks that have very different priorities to mine
>>43456635>post-fin syndromethere's absolutely no scientific evidence this exists. its just retards posting on reddit that are 40 years old with shit lifestyle/diet/anxiety that would have dick problems with or without having taken fin.
>>43456761>there's absolutely no scientific evidence gd existspowers seems to be putting a lot of effort into it and coming up with some plausible hypotheses, and he's mostly my type of nigga except for when he's getting too stubborn in the wrong directionsthe above applies to both conditions, funnily enough
>>43456635>post-fin syndrome is a real thing tho,no its not bro i have been on both duta AND fin as an extreme precautionary hair protection measure and nothing ever happened
Just here to say that my ONLY reservation about starting testosterone was the balding. My dad is 50 and his hairline hasn’t budged, but his dad is 80 and has been bald as hell since the early 90s at least) but i know most guys are more genetically similar to their maternal grandfathers and mine had a full head of hair at 75ish when he died.Wish me luck I guess? So far so good, just have a deep voice, man face, and monster clit now so I’m pretty happy.
>>43456635>more concerned about penis than being baldCan we not fix both...?
>>43457091I'd love that. I'm all for research in that direction, and this is one area where trans women are actually blazing the trail as they face much more dire consequences (masculinization), so they're far more likely to experiment. Their experience helps us men too.
>>43456761>>43457036As someone that got a rare side-effect from a medication (not fin) and got dismissed by the doctors I hope both of you guys get cancer.
>>43457047>most guys are more genetically similar to their maternal grandfatherslol mine was top-bald (like the last guy in op pic) since I remember him, and my mom also has the girl version of balding, then again I'm nearing 40 and so far have thinning and raised hairline (those stragglers look weird), so maybe I'll have decent hair for a bit longer than usual. or maybe it'll be ridiculous in a few years, who knows>>43457116got some weird sides from one isomer of a PPI too, I'm lucky it seemed to be temporary (tho who knows maybe it did some extra brain or vascular damage). human bodies have enough variety that even eggs have different effects depending on which type of cholesterol metabolism you have. generalizing without sufficient caveats is insufficiently-experienced behavior, hopefully most people move beyond that with time
>>43456635>broke libido or pp are big risks toonone of us care about that estrogen does it anyway. its the suicidal ideation and depression that are deal breakers
>>43458190yep, that's what I meant by different priorities for cis men vs trans women
