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>got drunk and high on meth and told my mom I was struggling with my gender again
She knows im repping now I think. I convinced her I was over it a year or two back
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>>43463222
how old are you? probably just keep repping
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>>43463233
21
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pic has heavily aroused me I'm gonna jerk off to it
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>>43463222
>Methhead
You are functionally retarded and your voice should be ignored until you go clean. Junkie fuck.
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>>43463271
>injects bathtub estrogen from a spic
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>>43463290
Estrogen doesnt get you high. Risks of contamination are real and like the only downside of diy.
I'm surprised no one has tried to poison a diy supply to kill trannies yet tbhon.
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Why are reppers like this
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>>43463290
>>43463301
both of you are just awful. especially you, cismoid
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>>43463222
>anon is worried about his mom finding out he's a tranny repper, but doesn't mimd her knowing abt his crystal and alcohol problem
many such cases
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>>43463222
>told my mom I was struggling with my gender again
>She knows im repping now I think
you think?
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>>43463290
brb stableising my vials with bubblebath
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>>43464359
I want cismoid off this board already tbhon
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>>43463301
they should make estrogen that gets you high
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>>43463222
How are you doing meth but afraid of estrogen. Fucking retard just inject estrogen
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>>43466415
Troon mindset right here
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>people falling for this dumb, lazy bait

I expected very little from yall and still I am let down
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>>43466456
Its not bait im high on meth rn lol
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>>43463301
>Risks of contamination are real
Not if you do it right. I've IMd several vials I made in my room under an upside-down tote and still have no adverse effects. 100s of 1000s of trannies have as well. Shit is not that hard but you do have to follow sterile technique and have something to depyrogenate your vials
>poison a diy supply
That's why you buy from a reputable source or make your own. If you can bake a cake, you can mix your own vials
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>>43465979
You know you can just filter him right?
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>>43466521
really? wow. never knew that. thanks lol. still want that nigga GONE GONE tho. hes a phoney
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>>43466513
Wtf is that real??
Can you just synthesize estro inna bathtub? What are the ingredients?
Bizzare.
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OP here
My mum confronted me asking what I was gonna do about this and bitched about me smelling like alcohol at 8am
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What is meth like?
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>>43466743
you dont synth anything
you mix your favorite estro ester powder in oil. cap. crimp
like I said, baking cake
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>>43468975
>estro ester powder
And how do you check if thats cobtaminated?
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>>43469500
You send a sample of your powder into a lab for testing. They run it through a GC–MS.
You aren't dealing with a corner dealer, you're dealing with a chemical supplier. It's in your supplier's best interest to send you a clean product
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>>43470041
Isnt it a controlled substance? Can you just send it to a lab?
Thats like sending meth in to check.
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>>43470070
1 yes, you can send in a controlled substance for testing. They're not cops. 2 estro isn't regulated like gear
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>>43466513
>>43468975
girl pls tell me you at least filter

>>43470041
this is probably only true of more reputable ones. i got the same API from 2 different vendors recently and one is noticeably more acidic and less pure of a white than the other.
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>>43470070
>Isnt it a controlled substance?
no
>Can you just send it to a lab?
some labs yes
its not cheap tho
>Thats like sending meth in to check.
id say people do this often but meth synth is so common and easy to do i doubt anyone bothers. usually people send in stuff like LSD or opiods or MDMA in for analysis.
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>>43472516
Yes, 22um, and I work under a SAB, steam sterilize equipment, depyro vials, sterilize oil, and dry heat bath after crimping . I'm not gonna type out the whole guide for some moid so I kept it short
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>>43472614
im just getting into vial production so i dont have enough of the equipment to sterilise as you do. im likely to bleach bath, dry, and acetone rinse for my cleaning process, and count on filtering directly into pre-sterilised vials for sterility control.

any advice for a babby brewer beyond whats in the usual guides?
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>>43463301
lmao tf are u on about
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>>43472636
A regular stovetop pressure cooker will get up to the necessary psi and temp to sterilize your equipment. Use indicator tape to make sure proper conditions were reached
Look for a toaster oven that can reach 500F. Depyrogenation is a vital step. Sterilizing kills microbes but doesn't remove toxins created by them (pyrogens)
Read https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/248gg9csugb6uhuft1qkk/Michael-J-Akers-Sterile-drug-products.pdf?rlkey=3iwicrc8eqpc1i7wdvwqjsk3z&st=1va098o4&dl=0
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>>43470070
>Thats like sending meth in to check.
It's really not, and they have a vested interest in ensuring that even if you do send meth in that you're kept anonymous. They make money testing, not playing secret narc nerd
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>>43472784
thank you so much for this book rec. i was counting on oxidative stress and an acetone rinse to do maybe more than i should.

can the stovetop pressure cooker be used for terminal sterilisation of vials too? ive always heard of there being maybe 2 models of pressure cooker adequate for the job of terminal end sterilisation.

i take it you also will not fuck with any oil thats not USP grade?
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>>43472857
A pressure cooker just needs to reach 15psi and 121C. Electric ones like instapot wont reach 15psi but you can leave it in for longer to make up for it
Depyrogenation on the other hand absolutely needs 250C for ≥30mins or it doesn't work
Terminal sterilization under pressure is debatable considering it can shatter crimped vials. It would really suck to do all that work and waste components. You're already doing a sufficiently hot water bath, working under a SAB, using a preservative (benzyl alcohol, chlorobutanol, etc), sterilizing equipment, and filtering. A dry heat bath (135C should be sufficient for terminal sterilization)
Anyone better versed on the subject than I, please chime in and point out any flaws in my logic
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>>43472857
>USP
goes without saying
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>>43472971
makes sense, thank you

>>43472987
i only ask as ive heard from some girls that theyve a rather "fuck it, itll do" attitude with oil sourcing that im quite hesitant to follow. im unable to source MCT in USP grade atm and am currently only able to get castor USP and ethyl oleate USP plus BB and BA from my usual sources. hopefully thatll work for my present goals which is mostly progestins related.
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>>43464474
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>>43473375
MCT is used mostly for ease of drawing with thinner gauge needles. Look at major pharma companies like Pfizer. They use cottonseed oil and suggest a thicker gauge needle for drawing and a thinner needle for injection. MCT is also known to cause allergic reactions for some people.
Another consideration is low dead space syringes with non removable needles. Due to the high concentration of estrogen, any waste adds up quickly. Thinner oils like MCT are used to mitigate the difficulty of drawing when you can't switch needles. IMO this can be avoided all together by using a lower concentration. BB is used to increase capacity to 40mg/ml which is convenient (less liquid injected, vial lasts longer, etc) but if it is omitted you can get 10mg/ml which is acceptable and carries its own benefits. The longer you use the vial the higher the likelihood of contamination, oil spoilage, and stopper coring. Each time you draw up liquid you introduce outside unsterile conditions to the once-sterile environment inside the vial. A lower concentration also means any waste is negligible and regular syringes with removable needles can be used without worry.
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>>43463301
>it's fine because it doesn't make you feel good. feeling good is evil
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>>43475767
Vices are
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>>43476384
being a stimhead is a virtue. meth kinda sucks tho but never tried dextrometh desu...
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>>43475400
this makes sense, though im hesitant to make vials that deviate from expectations of thinness and concentration given comfort appears to be a high priority among users (i make things for friends, im just new to injectables).

right now im just trying to find a good blend of things to make a 1ml injection of 250mg/ml OHPC with a needle smaller than 23g viable. hopefully one of the blends i made today is nice and stable.
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>>43476934
If making for others, by all means make what they want. That's what they're paying for.
But I would still pitch them the other option and reasons why. A fresh vial is always gonna be better to use than something that's been around for months and less waste means better levels/results. Vials are cheap and easy to make. The raw powders themselves are the expensive part. Less product per vial means lower cost per unit. Also, I'd rather lose a month supply over a year supply if something should happen to my vial.
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>>43477602
a fair point, ive certainly thought about making small 2-3ml vials for myself so i can better iterate on formulations.



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