I don't get why my fellow trans men don't surgerymax more. Yes, it's possible to pass as male after a few years on testosterone even with terrible facial genetics, but that's beside the point. Passing should be a baseline thing, not the endgoal. For trans men, it's not an achievement at all to pass. Unlike trans women, we have it very easy. The only ones who don't pass are on a microdose or started too late. FMS is basically a scam, but some of the individual procedures designed for cis men aren't. Anything to do with the jaw and/or chin area is bound to improve your perceived attractivity tenfold. Those surgeries aren't even that expensive, we're talking about 2-10k for LIFETIME implants and chin filler (to try out the look once, NOT as a long-term option - do your research on fillers, avoid fillers in any other place than the chin) being as cheap as 300-600€ for 1-2 years. That's life on (relative) easy mode if you grind for a few months to years. You should also get on Finasteride/Duta + minoxidil as soon as possible if you show any signs of balding btw. And go to the gym. And count your calories, strive for a lean physique. It's the best advice I can give you. If you're not on testosterone, none of this is relevant to you and you should focus on getting on HRT and staying on it for 2 years minimum first.
I know that this post is pearls before swine but I really wish ftms were more practical and less emotional. 90% of ftm passing advice caters to their emotions, not to their lived reality. Getting a "masculine" haircut and leaning into menswear is fine and all, but it's not that relevant to passing. Malebrain meme is ok but some quirky chungus girl is also into STEM or any of the cool masculine activities you like, it's still an emotionally driven goal and sometimes goes into NLOG/tryhard territory instead of living as a man
>>43464146ur preaching to the choir here. i do wish more FTMs would post results of surgeries beyond top online. even on sites like transbucket surgery experimentation is lacking.
>>43464194lowkey early into transition all of the trans tips about passing just make younger men look like butch lesbians unless someone is top 1% in looks and voice and on top of that it sort of placates younger men by distracting them from the real goal of test
>>43464201>preaching to the choirTourists disagree
not be mean, but ftm srs is literally a fruit rollup of flesh stitched to their crotch, it does no come even close to the real thing and can't even be used for sex, and even if ot could, they don't feel anything out of it. ftms should simply stay as cuntboys, don't become some frankenstein mess that you'll regret later in life. i have no stake in this btw, not attracted to trans so it's not my problem.
>>43464237My post isn't about SRS and I wouldn't get that either
>>43464232tourists can have their balls/ass exploded idk
>>43464250what you want chin implants, that's equally retarded. you trying to become the crimson chin or something, jesus christ. just love your body as it is, quit trying to play god.
>>43464254This board is 90-100% tourists by now, and they hate self-improvement culture.
Ftm passing is a hilarious meme. Just because you're ugly doesn't mean you look male
>>43464264I preferred even the low quality bait chuds over the doomer trans ledditors. They could just 41%, but they can't help but spread their misery like an infectious disease to trans people who have potential and drive to succeed at life
>>43464264i havent been on much recently so havent noticed but if what yourr saying is true thats cringe af whole point of being a tranny is that god has assigned our souls to learn the meaning of hard work due to some fatal flaw in the past life if more trannies understood and accepted that life would be fine
>>43464257>>43464274Your demoralization tactics will bear no fruit. You're only making it easier to filter out transitioners who aren't fit for it.
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>>43464146Or as a cheaper and healthier alternative you can get a better hobby than pretending to be a man.
I feel like some HGH should grow your browbone and jaw as well no? Help get rid of that "poonface"But what do I know I'm a stupid jeephon
>>43464645>I feel like some HGH should grow your browbone and jaw as well no?Not likely if you're an adult and why would you throw a shitload of money at something that's not guaranteed to work and on top of that might risk your health, unlike quality surgery? Do you think this is malebrained or are you just plain stupid/irrational?>>43464570Even a fraud pretending to be a man is more of a man than you will ever be. Good luck with the reincarnation, maybe it'll work out next time
>>43464685Nvm jeephon, I didn't realize you were a mtf because I didn't even bother reading the rest
>>43464304How the hell do you convince yourself to work hard? Is having a basic drive just something you'll never have access to if you aren't born with it?
>>43464146>FMS is basically a scam, but some of the individual procedures designed for cis men aren't. I have a friend who got FMS and for him it wasn't a scam. You should know better by now that some people are cursed with bone structures that make passing way harder than it is for other people. He got a brow, chin, and adams apple implant and it made a huge difference. Small round face with no brow ridge and a tiny chin before that. I love him but there's a reason he didn't fully pas before getting it done.Stop pretending you know what you're talking about.
>>43465711FMS as a name is a marketing scam, the individual surgeries themselves aren't. I am pro surgeries. If you were literate, you would've gotten that the first time you read my post.
>>43464237I'm so glad most people still don't know/understand what meta is
>>43465728Oh fuck off. It's a surgery that combined multiple masculinization procedures. When cis men do it it's still FMS.
>>43465754You know, I'd rather have trans men get scammed the same way cis men do than have them never get any surgery. FMS is an awesome educated choice by people who definitely know a lot about cosmetic surgery. next.
>>43465774Get that tree trunk out of your ass
>>43464146>Why don't FtMs surgerymax>FMS is a scam except in very specific circumstances>Also FtMs pass very easily>Actually you should gymmaxWhat is this thread even about bro.
>>43465862I'm disturbed by the low level of reading comprehension here. Anons used to hate on posts they understood, you know... If you're over the age of 14, there's no excuse for not being able to put the pieces together here because none of what you "quoted" contradicts each other and it's detailled as fuck because I knew someone was not going to get it inevitably if I didn't spell out every single thing, so I did. Waste of time
>>43464146>You should also get on Finasteride/Duta + minoxidil as soon as possibleAnd now your tdick and body hair won't fully develop. Good job idiot.
>>43465966conveniently left out>...if you show any signs of balding...You must be ragebaiting. How is it possible for a board's population to be so retarded
>>43464146Just want to add that getting an orthodontic consultation is probably a good idea before jumping into cosmetic procedures. Sometimes a jaw is objectively, medically fucked.
>>43465913Your post said that passing should be baseline, not the endgoal, but the rest of your post only talks about fillers, preventing baldness, and going to the gym.Yeah, I get that this is just a lookmaxxing thread (With the false pretense of surgery maxxing when the biggest leg up for trans men would be exercise), but I think it's stupid to encourage anyone, cis or trans, to get surgeries to look attractive. Not that I care if someone does it, but what's the end goal for facial surgeries if not to pass? Fuck bitches get money? It's not all that necessary, most people are really not that dysgenic.
>>43465987op get tf off your high horse you sound like an overcompensating pooner
>>43465913>I'm disturbed by the low level of reading comprehension heremost people (americans) are severely illiterate
