I’ve been taking hormones for a few years now, I haven’t and don’t want to socially transition as A. I feel like my masculine side is as strong as my feminine side and B. I don’t pass, I’ve got visible boobs when I dress fem and alt and queer events but I’d stick out everywhere. So I’d dishonest calling myself a woman, I think of myself as nonbinary and I use the men’s bathroom when I go out dressed up, and while there are some real weirdos who don’t even try to look feminine, some of the hsts girls are so pretty and on point that I’d feel like an ogre trying to put myself in the same class as them. I think about how no one likes a coward and I think we’ve all seen someone agonizing in the closet and thought “god, don’t be such a pussy” I guess my question is what do full time transwomen make of us manmoders, I’d like to think there is some sisterhood between us or are we viewed as pick me uncle toms
>>43476274sounds like you're just an amab enby then?
I view you no different than any other cis male with autism, my immediate reaction is to stay a safe distance away from you
>>43476274are you pretty and friendly or ugly and mean thats all that matters to most people
>>43476293Well I mean at the club I use my feminine name and I’m she/her but Monday morning it’s back to being worker man >>43476317:,( I will maintain a respectful distance
>>43476355I always say excuse me when people are packed on the dance floor and try to be graceful and nice Transitioning really made it apparent just how much most guys “manspread” everywhere
>>43476355What if you are ugly and nice or pretty an mean
>>43476274i find manmoders quite sad and pathetic but do what you gotta do
>>43476274>I guess my question is what do full time transwomen make of us manmodersA disgrace to troons. Why not just go fulltime. What was the point of hrt and electrolysis and surgery if you're never gonna commit to living as a female full time.
>>43476728>What if you are ugly and nicebetter than being ugly and mean, worse than being pretty and nice>or pretty an meansame as aboveif you want to get away with being ugly and mean, you must be rich.
>>43476847not op but if you don't look female you're just embarrassing yourself all of the time. i don't get why people advocate for social transition when passing isn't possible
>>43476882they want to use you to disrupt society and create a new class of genderqueered populace. divide and conquer.
>>43476847> What was the point of hrt and electrolysis and surgeryWell I just do hrt. I still want to be seen as a man in certain situations to certain people and I still feel rough and masculine at times. like not just at work where there are guy’s trying to talk over you and push you out of decisions or trying to get you fired. But also with my best friend I still want to be his brother and crack jokes and compete against each other. And yet I’m not just another bro I also have the softness and the sensitivity and the fluid receptivity in me, but it’s like people generally can’t see both of those things in the same person, that’s the paradox I suppose
>>43476882There’s just something so strange about how dressing up and presenting femininely is so natural when it’s in a place where it’s accepted and other people are doing it and then at like the grocery store in the middle of the day it withers up and dies and you feel like a joke even though the people staring and judging are like old and fat and in sweatpants
>>43476274I'm like this too. Idk if passing would actually make me happier...I think I'm just an amab enby
>>43476908*underclassMy gf’s relatives are wealthy champagne socialists who go on and on about how much they hate trump and love the democrats but she advised me not to come out around them as “they would treat us even more like the ‘charity class’”
>>43476274cornfrasier
>>43477238brvtal part of my family is like that too
>>43477289Good god Niles, are you still fretting Maris? She’s a trifling hoe. Daphne, would you fetch the lean please? My set is coming over and I want to make a good impression.
>>43477775Now now, Frasier. You know Maris has been edge ever since the drive by shooting. That bullet grazed her side and deflated her bbl.
>>43478209Ah yes, you’re quite right, wherever shall the surgeon find replacement ping pong balls? *Rolls eyes and lights blunt*
>>43476274>I’d like to think there is some sisterhood between usHaha, no.Trannies (both passoids and 'moders) told me to fuck off when I revealed I was trooning for the fetish.Now I pass as a mid woman, am post op and married. And out of the queer ghetto IRL.I don't despise anyone. And gladly do advise other trannies when they ask for advice. But I also don't see myself as part of any sisterhood, except the one with my close cisf friends.
What if you are a for real out and proud amab enby who just uses hormones for body modding. No closet, I'll happily chat about how I use estrogen for specific effects and how it's the best anti-aging treatment on the market. >but using it to looksmaxx doesn't make you enbyI mean, honestly maybe. If not enby I'd just call myself a guy. But my hormone levels and tissue composition are way different, so like, I dunno. I don't really care. I just look in the mirror, feel pleased with myself, and keep doing it. I do like hanging out with trans and queer people because they're the only ones who even half get it.
>>43481126How do you explain it to people do you live in a big coastal city where hrt enbys aren’t even like the most interesting thing you’ll see all morning or a very liberal place
>>43481126do you have booba
>>43482185I live in a liberal big city in a red state funnily enough. I have talked about it with some normoids but if anything they seem to get it more than being transgender. I explained it to my mom and she was like "Oh its like you wanna be like David Bowie" and she's cool with it.>>43482305Nah just stiff nipples for now. Im kind of gambling that they wont get big enough that presenting masc is hard
It's alright, baby. Take as much time as you need. You don't owe anyone anything. You don't have to "come out" on normie society's timeline. Take things one step at a time.
>>43476274>uses pussy as an insult>”full time”holy shit giga male brain ngmi
>>43476274who cares what they think we're all just trying to get by in this life and doing the best we can with the cards we we're dealt. if that's a problem then they can fuck off.
>>43482684Most blessed post itt
>>43482611>Im kind of gambling that they wont get big enough that presenting masc is hardyou have a ~90% chance of winning the gamble.the only real problem of using hormones for body moding as a guy is that it gets pretty rough to attract women.I'm technically bi but in practice I'm a fag because men find this hot at a much higher rate. Not that I'm complaining but it's worth knowing this beforehand.
>>43484379even if some interested in hrt wanted to date women it would end in divorce if they tried to marry one who is not into their femness, that or they would be miserable. there are women into it, just much less common (the bi/pan/theyfab type to be specific)
>>43476274I like moders their pain keeps them humble and funny
>>43484395>there are women into it, just much less common (the bi/pan/theyfab type to be specific)idk, anon. the harshest judgment I got was from a bi woman.>>43484419>painwhat pain? if anything, i have less pain since i've been estrogenizing.>keeps them humbleonly at home and in the bedroom with my masc bf :3
>>43484499they can be awful, especially because they are often reppers themselves. like terfs. but the fact she was the harshest, showing intensity is a sign of something.
>>43476975>I still want to be seen as a man in certain situations to certain peopleive been dealing with this lately and same i think but idk. is it really just high effort masking? i feel extremely fake like meeting new people at work and putting on 'one of the guys' and doing banter but since trooning out ive finally started to pass as a normie cis guy instead of a mega schizo autist. or is it just voice dysphoria and my performance isnt even really gendered? i just talk about work stuff and the weather anyway. is it even man coded to make small talk with the hardware store clerk? women buy hardware too sometimes... >>43476847>What was the point... if you're never gonna commitwell im 193 cm tall for starters...
>>43481126this might be me its just so hard to tell if its cope for not passing or i really want it >>43482185i just dont/wont and really have no intention to talk to strangers about it. friends are a different story obv>>43484379yeah for the first couple years. you are gonna really piss off some people spreading this but the casualties should be minimal since most are reppers anyway lol.
>>43476274You do you. Idrc. Buttttt if you did wanna womanmode just find a queer/ally friend to be there with you when you go out. You'd be surprised. Most people do not give a fuck. DO be prepared to get "misgendered" (if you feel like that applies to you) Me personally I dont care about pronouns. Especially since I go by my given name. All in all you seem chill, I have nothing against you or manmoders. We could be friends :3
>>43486940>casualties should be minimal since most are reppers anywayholy shit, this might explain why an acquaintance suddenly trooned out with "nobody suspecting anything before". s(he) spent quite a bit of time closer to me and saw my bica and gynokadin stash.maybe i should give her/him a call...
>>43487035Thank you UwU You’re right most people are unfazed and surprisingly kind and decent, there are women I’ve become friendly with at the monthly events I go to who only know me as she/her and it’s such a wholesome feeling seeing them and catching up. But I can’t quite shake the feeling that they’d think I was a faker or something if they knew I just wore guys clothes the rest of the week but they probably overwhelmingly understand I just don’t want to deal with the heat going to Home Depot looking pretty with my big shoulders >>43482684Thank you I needed this
>>43486910>since trooning out ive finally started to pass as a normie cis guy instead of a mega schizo autistThere’s a part of me that’s become way more confident and unconcerned around boring dudebros that’s like “yeah ok you wish you were brave enough to do what you want like me...”
>>43488613yeah thats why i dont mind the 'cis man on hrt' psyop or '90% no boobs' poster i would have preferred to be tricked like that even if i wouldnt fall for it ur gonna save urself so much pain. but still its gonna hit at least one real person lol
>>43489119>way more confident and unconcernefr they just need to start screening for e scripts for anxiety
>>43489126>'cis man on hrt' psyopgreat, now I'm a psyop too :(meh, that's why I avoid telling people IRL how I managed to look he way I look. Men can't do anything, especially not anything that makes them feel better, without being harshly judged for it or called a psyop or w/e. Meanwhile women taking T for their libido get celebrated in the new york times. That's certainly not a psyop or predatory or evil.
